Darren Till

[Mr laheeeey]

What is every ones thoughts on Darren Till? I think he will be camp very soon. I think he got stage fright and was too into the moment and was thrown to the wolves a bit to soon.

 

[Achilles12]

Maybe woodley is a very good fight also underated, I know he is quite a boring fighter but he knocked some real good fighters out, Darren Till was poor vs woodley i would like to see #2 fight to see if darren can take it abit more to him.

 

[nodnarbusn]

also underated

Word is he is the welterweight "GOAT". I'd hardly call him underrated, he has just played it safe most of his career and thus tends to have boring fights. I mean GSP has strait up ignored Tyron's callouts and realistically on paper he is the only person who threatens Tyron's welterweight GOAT status.

Till was overhyped like Ngannou and got spanked for the same reason, trash ground game plain and simple. I am a single stripe white belt in BJJ (like a ~year of inconsistent training from 0 skill level) and saw that Darce coming a mile away. Tills a monster, but im tired of seeing one dimensional fighters get hyped like they're the next big thing when their standup is their only strength. I sincerely cannot fathom what the fuck he did in camp beyond sweat about his weight cut because I can't imagine it involved ANY rolling. I genuinely believe any white belts in BJJ (from a legit gym) with 6 months or so of experience would of atleast been able to recognize that they were in danger while Tyron was setting up the Darce, Till never saw it coming.

For the record, I had hoped Till would pull it off and I absolutely hope he works on his ground game and makes a big comeback. Tyron was surprisingly humble in his win and preformed great so I can't knock him a bit, certainly wasn't "boring" this time.

 

[Achilles12]

Word is he is the welterweight "GOAT". I'd hardly call him underrated, he has just played it safe most of his career and thus tends to have boring fights. I mean GSP has strait up ignored Tyron's callouts and realistically on paper he is the only person who threatens Tyron's welterweight GOAT status.

Till was overhyped like Ngannou and got spanked for the same reason, trash ground game plain and simple. I am a single stripe white belt in BJJ (like a ~year of inconsistent training from 0 skill level) and saw that Darce coming a mile away. Tills a monster, but im tired of seeing one dimensional fighters get hyped like they're the next big thing when their standup is their only strength. I sincerely cannot fathom what the fuck he did in camp beyond sweat about his weight cut because I can't imagine it involved ANY rolling. I genuinely believe any white belts in BJJ (from a legit gym) with 6 months or so of experience would of atleast been able to recognize that they were in danger while Tyron was setting up the Darce, Till never saw it coming.

For the record, I had hoped Till would pull it off and I absolutely hope he works on his ground game and makes a big comeback. Tyron was surprisingly humble in his win and preformed great so I can't knock him a bit, certainly wasn't "boring" this time.

I call him underrated ofv because of the whole ufc community doubting woodley, And i disagree with til being *overhyped* He has look impressive in most of his fights. First title shot maybe he thought too much in to it? GSP are looking for those money fight not a Woodley vs GSP that does not appeal to alot of fans, u say u saw it from a mile away *yes wathing a t.v screen* but when ure taken shots to the head it would be alot different. Till isn't overhyped and he will be back. Next u say Mcgregor is overhyped and that he is a one dimensional fighter.

 

[nodnarbusn]

I call him underrated ofv because of the whole ufc community doubting woodley, And i disagree with til being *overhyped* He has look impressive in most of his fights. First title shot maybe he thought too much in to it? GSP are looking for those money fight not a Woodley vs GSP that does not appeal to alot of fans, u say u saw it from a mile away *yes wathing a t.v screen* but when ure taken shots to the head it would be alot different. Till isn't overhyped and he will be back. Next u say Mcgregor is overhyped and that he is a one dimensional fighter.

I never said Till wasn't impressive in his previous fights, but beyond Cerrone and Wonderboy (who were handpicked for his fighting style mind you) he has fought a bunch of chumps in chump organizations. I'm saying outright that if you offer little to no resistance what so ever to someone walking through your guard and methodically moving in for a darce then you aren't a fucking elite fighter plain and simple. Till's standup is great, but he was outclassed handily there too. Tyron just made him look like an amatuer plain and simple.

Not sure where you're going mentioning GSP saying "it doesn't interest a lot of fans", most anyone who has followed the sport longer than a year or two is itching for GSP to test himself against the new wave. I mention GSP vs Tyron because they are both the number 1 contenders for greatest WW of all time, no one else is even in the conversation on paper. It would be extremely easy to sell to any legitimate fans of MMA. GSP always talked about legacy but now he just wants to drop ~20-30 pounds and weight bully McGregor for a few mill lmao.

And question my BJJ all you'd like, I never said I was particularly good. I'm just TELLING you outright, white belts across the country would of atleast offered more resistance to Woodleys attempts to pass guard. The only reason Till slipped the triangle attempt was Woodley wanted to pass. If you don't think Till was/is a hype job, then you probably still think Ngannou is a top tier HW.

 

[Achilles12]

I never said Till wasn't impressive in his previous fights, but beyond Cerrone and Wonderboy (who were handpicked for his fighting style mind you) he has fought a bunch of chumps in chump organizations. I'm saying outright that if you offer little to no resistance what so ever to someone walking through your guard and methodically moving in for a darce then you aren't a fucking elite fighter plain and simple. Till's standup is great, but he was outclassed handily there too. Tyron just made him look like an amatuer plain and simple.

Not sure where you're going mentioning GSP saying "it doesn't interest a lot of fans", most anyone who has followed the sport longer than a year or two is itching for GSP to test himself against the new wave. I mention GSP vs Tyron because they are both the number 1 contenders for greatest WW of all time, no one else is even in the conversation on paper. It would be extremely easy to sell to any legitimate fans of MMA. GSP always talked about legacy but now he just wants to drop ~20-30 pounds and weight bully McGregor for a few mill lmao.

And question my BJJ all you'd like, I never said I was particularly good. I'm just TELLING you outright, white belts across the country would of atleast offered more resistance to Woodleys attempts to pass guard. The only reason Till slipped the triangle attempt was Woodley wanted to pass. If you don't think Till was/is a hype job, then you probably still think Ngannou is a top tier HW.

We ain't seen hardily ANY of till's Ground game, He was seriously hurt vs Woodley so u never know what he can and cannot do, cerrone and wonderboy are both great 1s a pervious #1 and donald has been told forever.

GSP Vs woodley pfft i wudn't pay to see that, I would pay for mcGregor vs GSP i like mcgregor but like i said about til he has to prove his ground game, But saying that only mini mendes took him down and he didn't excatly get beaten much on the ground, I think we will all be surprised what till and mcgregor are capable on the ground.

I am not questing ure *BJJ* u think that when ure being elbowed HARD in the face it's easy to block his transactions i can guartee if i was elbowing u from the top i could pass ure guard quite easily. Going back to GSP vs Mcgregor i would be surprised if the fight did happen i think Gsp would win but wouldn't bully him. 95% Of all ufc fighters are elites. Jon jones is the best in the company, Coming back from a long stint out to knock out the current champ even if u all think he was on steds.

 

[nodnarbusn]

I disagree with a vast array of shit you're saying so i'm going to leave it at that. I know better than to argue with an armchair professional that can't spell. I've been on the Internet before.

 

[Achilles12]

I disagree with a vast array of shit you're saying so i'm going to leave it at that. I know better than to argue with an armchair professional that can't spell. I've been on the Internet before.

No need to be rude, If u think this is an arguement then u have not been on the internet before Mr white belt *BJJ*

 

[evelx]

I never said Till wasn't impressive in his previous fights, but beyond Cerrone and Wonderboy (who were handpicked for his fighting style mind you) he has fought a bunch of chumps in chump organizations. I'm saying outright that if you offer little to no resistance what so ever to someone walking through your guard and methodically moving in for a darce then you aren't a fucking elite fighter plain and simple. Till's standup is great, but he was outclassed handily there too. Tyron just made him look like an amatuer plain and simple.

Not sure where you're going mentioning GSP saying "it doesn't interest a lot of fans", most anyone who has followed the sport longer than a year or two is itching for GSP to test himself against the new wave. I mention GSP vs Tyron because they are both the number 1 contenders for greatest WW of all time, no one else is even in the conversation on paper. It would be extremely easy to sell to any legitimate fans of MMA. GSP always talked about legacy but now he just wants to drop ~20-30 pounds and weight bully McGregor for a few mill lmao.

And question my BJJ all you'd like, I never said I was particularly good. I'm just TELLING you outright, white belts across the country would of atleast offered more resistance to Woodleys attempts to pass guard. The only reason Till slipped the triangle attempt was Woodley wanted to pass. If you don't think Till was/is a hype job, then you probably still think Ngannou is a top tier HW.

Lool! I think you're the armchair specialist. White belts across the country wouldn't have woodley pressuring them on the ground after being rocked and the constant blows that followed. Yes its easy to see when you're sitting behind the tv but when you're under the pressure of a guy trying to beat the fuck out of you its a easy mistake to make... @nodnarbusn is right in everything he says. Mcgregor gave his back against diaz... No resistance All the armchair experts knew it was going to happen i guess he's not a elite fighter either

 

[nodnarbusn]

Lool! I think you're the armchair specialist. White belts across the country wouldn't have woodley pressuring them on the ground after being rocked and the constant blows that followed. Yes its easy to see when you're sitting behind the tv but when you're under the pressure of a guy trying to beat the fuck out of you its a easy mistake to make... @nodnarbusn is right in everything he says. Mcgregor gave his back against diaz... No resistance All the armchair experts knew it was going to happen i guess he's not a elite fighter either

It took him well over a minute to realize he needs to actually tighten up his guard and tie up his legs, thats literally muscle memory for those who practice, someone gets on top of you: tighten your guard. Now even if he was rocked how do you forget to pull GUARD?! Maybe hes rocked and didn't see the D'arce or arm triangle attempt but him not pulling guard (without being told to by his corner!) is amateur shit plain and simple. I went in this fight really hoping Till could pull through (Woodley is strait unlikable), but his Muay Thai backround can't carry him through fights with elite grapplers.

Dickride whomever you like, I never said shit on Diaz or McGregor lol, but for the record both of their fights were infinitely more competitive and fairly matched than Woodley vs Till. Till came from Muay Thai and his ground game and it shows, if you disagree thats fine and dandy. If he doesn't improve he will be eaten alive by anyone with a single or double leg takedown and rudimentary BJJ now that his weakness has been exposed. He also needs to bump up to 185 and quit trying to weight bully.

~5:20-7:00++ Till is laying on his back offering no resistance to Tyron whatsoever. Open legs, saying sure dude posture up and drop some bombs on me. Im not even picking on him for not recognizing the arm triangle attempt or darce earlier, im saying outright he didn't pull guard and thats really really bad to put it simply. If you wanna argue then hit up someone else. This was a shitshow.

 

[Achilles12]

god u talk to much

 

[Obie]

He's definetely got the body for it but I don't think he believes in his abilities fully.