Damn scammers.

[Jonesd1]

you guys forget.. scamming.. I hate scamming but yeah.. your all breaking the games rules right now by trading these accounts so I wouldnt really complain

 

[DerpDerp]

you guys forget.. scamming.. I hate scamming but yeah.. your all breaking the games rules right now by trading these accounts so I wouldnt really complain

The game rules have nothing to do with getting scammed.

 

[StewieRsbot]

^ games rules do have something for scamming you know? u can't scam in runescape

 

[DerpDerp]

Okay then, thanks for your unwanted feedback, now on to something we can actually use..

 

[M A R I J U A N A]

When i saw Derp's thread about his hosting program offer
i thought he was a scammer but now when i see his posts ,
he is a intelligent person with good statements and a hell of a grammar. (My European grammar fails i know)
Support and i'd like to join your group.
-Marijuana

 

[DerpDerp]

Yea A lot of people thought that.

Sadly, I got a customer for it, but I couldn't get it to workout just right with him as it does me, no harm done, and we are even discussing possibly sharing the account he was going to sell me originally.

 

[M A R I J U A N A]

Ah nice but be carefull ask all details or have irl contact so he/she wont fuck you over.
Sign me up as a supporter!
-Marijuana

 

[Rexar]

If they're using a fake OMM multiple times, lying about having possession of an account, trying to sell an account they've already sold, etc.

Sure they haven't sold the account again yet or scammed someone using the fake OMM, but they're attempting to.

That is right, but from what i gather, derp is saying, he means to ban people that, have not scammed before, and might be acting suspicously..

you guys forget.. scamming.. I hate scamming but yeah.. your all breaking the games rules right now by trading these accounts so I wouldnt really complain

Your an idiot, no offence

When i saw Derp's thread about his hosting program offer
i thought he was a scammer but now when i see his posts ,
he is a intelligent person with good statements and a hell of a grammar. (My European grammar fails i know)
Support and i'd like to join your group.
-Marijuana

 

[Yousonofamitch]

I gotta support this too, I'm exactly what you listed not to be used, but that's fine. xD I recently started jotting down notes of scammers I report with the hopes it'll scare off other scammers, and keep my trades or other threads i post on legit.

 

[DerpDerp]

Looking for Administration replies and any Moderators.

Funny how people run around here and want change but don't look in a place where it needs to be discussed.

 

[FreedomFight]

Stop with this "selfless thread" bullshit.

A system that advocates for a user with less than 1 month of time here to take on a "more-trusted" role in these forums is no system that I'm willing to vouch for.

 

[DerpDerp]

I've more than blatantly thrown facts out there, and made good points, about why a person is more than likely a scammer. Even quoting other users that are posting "attempted scam, scammer, etc" and then, I go back to the thread days later, and it's still there and the guy is not banned?

Let's take 7 somethin something something (I think he is 72231 or something like that)

I MORE than gladly pointed out him attempting to scam other people, attempting to scam me, and the fact he has MULTIPLE accounts. And it took a person to actually get scammed by the guy for ANYONE to do anything.

I understand you can't just go off and ban someone, but if someone like me, with sense, comes and makes some points in a topic, PLEASE TAKE THEM INTO SUGGESTION. Everyone so far, that I have pointed towards being a scammer, is, and has been. Every single one. I don't keep track of them, I am not some "l33t scammer catcher" that's devoted his life to catching scammers, I am just someone with common sense that can catch a scam.

With this being said, we need a new group.

This group isn't for people who are dedicated to finding scammers
This group isn't for people who occasionally catch a scammer
This group isn't for people who don't have any common sense whatsoever
This group isn't for the people that just post "He's a scammer!"
This group isn't for the guy who has "I've caught 9842301" scammers
This group isn't for the person who likes to keep track, or be acknowledged of finding a scammer.
This group isn't for OMM's or MM's

This group IS for people who generally know how a scammer works, his ways, and can easily enough spot a scammer without over doing it and making false accusations without any underlying proof of suspicious activity or offers

We don't need dedicated people to it, we just need a group of people. No powers, no nothing. Their only ability? A public section in which they can only post in, and a section in which they can talk amongst themselves and discuss possible scammers, and what they are trying to do.

I can possibly discuss this more with an Administrator, but I would like to take Leadership of a program of such extent. The group of THEM, the group of Market Guru's

Recently, upon seeing posts around in the market area, I have found many scammers using fake ways and tricks to getting an account.

What are Market Gurus?
The Market Gurus will be a simple group, nothing more, nothing less. These users will have a special title, and should be talked with the up most respect and trust. They will ensure a safe trade, and possibly give tips on going through with a trade, giving key facts in going through with one. They must know the system in and out. They will catch scammers, and flag suspicious users. They will investigate and discuss with each other on what actions need to be taken, if a user is deemed a scammer, and if a user needs to be traded with caution

• Ability to spot a scammer
• Ability to understand how a scam may work
• Ability to spot scams
• Ability to spot fake reports of scammers
• Ability to under go a thorough investigation, pin pointing major keyfact's in proving of a scammer
• Ability to see, and spot a suspicious character
• Ability to talk to possibly talk to both sides, and get down to the facts. Not talk around like a idiot getting "He or she said" facts
• Ability to actively view the forums, and give helpful tips to ensure a safe trade
• Ability to trick scammers.

What would you do, DerpDerp, as the Master Market Guru?​

• Identify users which can be a possible candidate for the group
• Be up most respectful to members, and reading reports thoroughly and carefully, discussing with the team the best action to take.
• Report to an Administrator for users that need to be deemed a Scammer or users that need to be Traded With Caution
• Identify possible corrupt group members
• Thoroughly, and accurately try to understand a scamming process. To further educate the community on possible scams.
• Actively be in community discussion and taking feedback of the teams work, and suggestions.

RANKS​

--These ranks need to be added to ensure we can work in a managed environemnt

--Lead Market Guru
--Market Guru
--Market Guru's mark of "Trade With Caution" (We will not use the normal Trade With Caution rank)
--Market Guru's "Scammer" mark (This will allow the user to be in the community, but not have access to the Market section)
--Market Guru's "Under Investigation" mark (These users are currently under investigation because of suspicious activity)


Take my idea, or allow me to start this system up myself. None the less, this system will be great, if handled correctly.

Thank you for thoroughly reading the thread.

 

[FreedomFight]

What would you do, DerpDerp, as the Master Market Guru?

Like I said, cut the bullshit. Thank you, for thoroughly reading my post(s).

 

[DerpDerp]

I was giving an example of what I would do. If you don't like the thread, ignore me, and don't come into the thread. It's simple.

 

[Rexar]

This is getting a little off topic..

 

[Lukef555]

Rexar that was complete spam which is even more off topic..


On topic: you have my 100% support this is a great idea and would cut down on scammers a ton!

 

[Syed]

I honestly don't believe DerpDerp, *if this idea was implemented* should be "Master Market Guru", he just hasn't earned the respect, vouches, and frankly hasn't been on sythe long enough. Other then that this idea is not half bad.

 

[xeleration]

I was giving an example of what I would do. If you don't like the thread, ignore me, and don't come into the thread. It's simple.

How do you expect your suggestion to be accepted if you won't take into consideration the criticism of others?

I honestly don't believe DerpDerp, *if this idea was implemented* should be "Master Market Guru", he just hasn't earned the respect, vouches, and frankly hasn't been on sythe long enough. Other then that this idea is not half bad.

Agreed.

 

[Guineapigcal]

To be fair, probably more than 50% of Sythe will scam or have scammed in their time here. It's an unavoidable problem on a site like this. Just use your common sense & skills for your own benefit. Scamming sections, waste of time. I don't support, we already have the "Report a spammer" and "Report a scammer" sections along with hardworking staff members. I personally think that scammers are never going to be stopped completely.

 

[Rexar]

To be fair, probably more than 50% of Sythe will scam or have scammed in their time here. It's an unavoidable problem on a site like this. Just use your common sense & skills for your own benefit. Scamming sections, waste of time. I don't support, we already have the "Report a spammer" and "Report a scammer" sections along with hardworking staff members. I personally think that scammers are never going to be stopped completely.

They will never be comepletely stopped, but their numbers can be reduced.