Clique community

[Ploub]

Seeing the discord server that's got about 5 active users who seek out people they dont like and get one of their friends to "DNT" people is a really bad advertisement for people coming to your platform to sell anything. I've browsed sythe for a few years now and started selling a service on here maybe 2 months ago, and it took me maybe 1 hour in total over that time to see the cliqueish-ness. I looked at a conversation in the discord between a few members, one of which had been "DNT'd" for seemingly no reason other than some dude didn't like him. the accusation didn't even make sense but 3 people in particular kept pushing it and it lead to Pirate handing out a "DNT". I said it was dumb and then the same people started saying i was the dudes alt, or "vader" whoever the **** that is.

Not only is it bad for business, it's cringe.

 

Hi @Ploub,

When you join the Sythe Community Discord, you get access to the 'faq-rules' channel. I'll quote the first sentence: "1. Light trolling is permitted, forum etiquette and standards lowered".
I'll also quote the second sentence: "2. No excessive harassment ".
If you believe someone excessively harassed you, feel free to make a report or contact a staff member.

Regarding the report: we do not hand out DNT's for 'no reason'. The DNT in that report is justified and would have been given regardless of the conversation you witnessed in the Sythe Community Discord.

 

[Ploub]

Hi @Zora

I'm 100% positive you don't even want to read this, but your reply is absolutely irrelevant to anything I said.
leveraging contacts in the sythe community to influence punishments is not "light trolling" so i don't even know why you would quote that.

I wasn't "harassed", given the current climate and popular usage of that term, is to insinuate that what i'm saying is childish and discredits my entire point which was connection or popularity or "clout" were leveraged to influence a decision. i'm not sure if you are aware of this, and i could forgive you for not being aware of that.

To say " 'we don't hand out DNT's for 'no reason' " is to say i'm either misunderstanding the rules or i'm lying, i'd like you to clarify. If it is a misunderstanding, i'd be happy to admit so.

edit: at the absolute very least you should maybe stop people who have authority "joking" (if it even was a joke, which i don't think it was) about "corruption having no reason", the insinuation being they can ban anyone for anything. Maybe it's "light trolling" and i'm just autistic, but regardless it's not really a good look - which, in your defence, may not matter.

Thanks in advance.

 

Hi @Zora

I'm 100% positive you don't even want to read this, but your reply is absolutely irrelevant to anything I said.
leveraging contacts in the sythe community to influence punishments is not "light trolling" so i don't even know why you would quote that.

I wasn't "harassed", given the current climate and popular usage of that term, is to insinuate that what i'm saying is childish and discredits my entire point which was connection or popularity or "clout" were leveraged to influence a decision. i'm not sure if you are aware of this, and i could forgive you for not being aware of that.

To say " 'we don't hand out DNT's for 'no reason' " is to say i'm either misunderstanding the rules or i'm lying, i'd like you to clarify. If it is a misunderstanding, i'd be happy to admit so.

Thanks in advance.

To make it even simpler for you - @Pirate isn't friends with those guys. There was no leveraging. There were no contacts.

A report is handled by the information/documentation contained in the report, not by Sythe general chat & certainly not because multiple people are seeking it out (hence why Zora explained a DNT was not given for no reason).

There’s a block feature on discord if you feel inclined to not see the trolling.

 

[Ploub]

To make it even simpler for you - @Pirate isn't friends with those guys. There was no leveraging. There were no contacts.

A report is handled by the information/documentation contained in the report, not by Sythe general chat & certainly not because multiple people are seeking it out (hence why Zora explained a DNT was not given for no reason).

There’s a block feature on discord if you feel inclined to not see the trolling.

thanks i needed the simplification.

 

To say " 'we don't hand out DNT's for 'no reason' " is to say i'm either misunderstanding the rules or i'm lying, i'd like you to clarify. If it is a misunderstanding, i'd be happy to admit so.

The reason Pirate handed out a DNT has nothing to do with what was said on Discord. I was not part of that conversation but after reviewing the evidence on that report, I would have given a DNT as well.
Pirate briefly explained the reason for the DNT here Shiekah

 

thanks i needed the simplification.

I was posting in the discord at the time, we tend not to be serious in that discord, most of it is just fun and giggles.

 

[Ploub]

The reason Pirate handed out a DNT has nothing to do with what was said on Discord. I was not part of that conversation but after reviewing the evidence on that report, I would have given a DNT as well.
Pirate briefly explained the reason for the DNT here Shiekah

the thread you linked me to has everything that was being discussed in discord and doesn't even prove anything, are we playing games here?

If that's the evidence i'll just leave you to your own devices, clearly some conflicts of interest happening.

 

[Ploub]

I was posting in the discord at the time, we tend not to be serious in that discord, most of it is just fun and giggles.

that's cool, and like i said maybe it's not a big deal to anyone on sythe but to outsiders it's a turn off. if growth is even a consideration might want to reconsider. I'm all for "fun and giggles" but;
A) this doesn't feel like fun and giggles, when there is a logistical problem with the allegations.
B) regular members and admins are fine with labeling someone (admittedly, in this case, me, so you can assume bias) critiquing their actions, as a scammer. If i went around saying that to people who have donator ranks, do you think i'd receive no consequences for tarnishing their reputation? even when i couldn't possibly have the impact they can simply by virtue of their reputation

If payers are allowed more leniency, that's cool. i don't own the platform. but if the roles are reversed and the outcome is different that's not very transparent because as far as i can tell people should be treated equally regardless of if they pay the platform or not, aside from the benefits that come with donating. none of the listed benefits include favourable decisions from staff.

 

that's cool, and like i said maybe it's not a big deal to anyone on sythe but to outsiders it's a turn off. if growth is even a consideration might want to reconsider. I'm all for "fun and giggles" but;
A) this doesn't feel like fun and giggles, when there is a logistical problem with the allegations.
B) regular members and admins are fine with labeling someone (admittedly, in this case, me, so you can assume bias) critiquing their actions, as a scammer. If i went around saying that to people who have donator ranks, do you think i'd receive no consequences for tarnishing their reputation?

If payers are allowed more leniency, that's cool. i don't own the platform. but if the roles are reversed and the outcome is different that's not very transparent because as far as i can tell people should be treated equally regardless of if they pay the platform or not, aside from the benefits that come with donating. none of the listed benefits include favourable decisions from staff.

Again this circles back to what we've already stated - the Sythe general chat is mainly light trolling. If you troll an admin or another member it's the same as a member trolling an admin or another member. This would be the same if someone were to donate $1 or $1,000 to the site - as again it's a semi-free for all style chat (with some minor rules so the discord does not get banned).

We always welcome feedback but you're going in circles here my man.

Do you have any evidence/examples of favorable decisions from staff because someone donated?

 

[Ploub]

Again this circles back to what we've already stated - the Sythe general chat is mainly light trolling. If you troll an admin or another member it's the same as a member trolling an admin or another member. This would be the same if someone were to donate $1 or $1,000 to the site - as again it's a semi-free for all style chat (with some minor rules so the discord does not get banned).

We always welcome feedback but you're going in circles here my man.

Do you have any evidence/examples of favorable decisions from staff because someone donated?

you don't see a problem with staff and friends calling me a scammer for disagreeing with a decision? i can't tell if you're being serious or if the trolling continues here too

the people im talking about are staff or donators. i left the discord as soon as they said i was some scammers alt account because why on earth would i stay? you can find the logs there.

Aside from what im saying in this thread, which is all recorded and logged in discord, i dont have evidence of donators being treated with more leniency, the evidence is logged on YOUR END, not mine.

 

you don't see a problem with staff and friends calling me a scammer for disagreeing with a decision? i can't tell if you're being serious or if the trolling continues here too

the people im talking about are staff or donators.

I've had members call me a scammer (again as a troll) in the Sythe general chat.

Circling back again; Do you have any evidence/examples of favorable decisions from staff because someone donated?

 

[Ploub]

I've had members call me a scammer (again as a troll) in the Sythe general chat.

Circling back again; Do you have any evidence/examples of favorable decisions from staff because someone donated?

circling back again;

Aside from what im saying in this thread, which is all recorded and logged in discord, i dont have evidence of donators being treated with more leniency, the evidence is logged on YOUR END, not mine.

 

If you have a suggestion to improve the discord please utilize the Suggestions section.

The question I asked is rhetorical as I know the answer to it. I'm going to close this thread, however, as there's not really anything you're presenting here - I'm sorry you're upset you got trolled in discord .