Christianity is false

[v1olentstr2]

Well , then dont start shit you cant finsih is the morel of the story , and plz stop calling me an idiot? I have proven that i am not , you tried to start shit , saying i should be dead , i defended myself and said bring it the fuck on , im not trying to pick fights , you said i should be dead , so ya , your the one who started it up after i was done , just drop the shit and move on.

 

[TheRedeemer]

I changed it, you took it to the next level and I responded, as much as I don't like you atm, I don't think you should be dead. People say things when they are angry they don't mean, maybe you ment it but w/e I don't care if you call me a dumshit or asshole but when you talk about people who arn't even in this, like my family, it pisses me off. Don't worry Im done.

The moral of the story is
You shouldn't start shit period, then there will be nothing to finish. Don't say you didn't reread you can clearly see you did, it was going well untill the cussing at me and others happened. I know I made it worse though.

I apologize for saying you should be dead, didn't mean it.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Agreed,

All non believers are on the road to hell. They have to turn around.

I say that you're on the road to wasting your life, and that you need to turn around. What have either of us proven? Nothing.

Stop attacking Christianity , small minded mother fuckers .
How can you put 2 paragraphs on a forum and think that your views actually fucking matter about a power that is much greater than you'll ever be?
Stop attacking what i believe in , its wrong , fuck your atheist views .

What all the sythe mother fuckers are gonna say "They cant attack your religion but you can there?"

Let me clear this up , People who believe that there is no god , i have no fucking respect for at all , I can honestly care less if you were raised to have no faith , if you are posting on this forum than you are obviously old enough to make the decision to pick up a bible and read it , So if you are posting on this forum about how there is no such thing as GOD , than you are a fucking idiot who will rote in hell for all eternity and have the skin burnt off of your body over and over and over and the pain will be the same as it was the first time , you will never get used to the pain , it will just keep on consuming you.

Think about that before you deny our heavenly father.

You have no respect for Atheists? Silly of you, it's just a difference in theological opinion.

You're just saying that we will rot in Hell. You're not proving anything.

I don't care what you call it , those who have faith will have eternal life , its your road to damnation not mine . Sorry for putting your views down i almost forgot that i am a man of god , not of argument , I cant convince you otherwise anyways , you are not open minded you are more small minded than anything it seems , so i am done trying to "scare" people into christianity , Its not how it should be , if you want eternal life and happens , than believe...

We're the close-minded ones? Hilarious.

Yes, because one can just will ones beliefs to change.

Now, do tell me, what empirical evidence do you have to support your beliefs? You seem quite eager to share them.

 

[v1olentstr2]

I don't need evidence , it says in the bible there is all types of people and events that will try to demise and put the credibility of the bible to ashes.

I do not preach my beliefs among the eyes of eager to put me down and my beliefs.

 

[TheRedeemer]

True, I could also say the bible saying that people will try and 'demise' it is a lie, just to keep you sticking to it.

that makes it sound like we who don't believe are evil demons trying to get you to come to the dark side, when really we are just people who want to see it not read it. I can write anything down and say its real.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I don't need evidence , it says in the bible there is all types of people and events that will try to demise and put the credibility of the bible to ashes.

I have a book here. It tells me that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Ruler and Grand Lord of everything. It also says that anybody who disagrees is corrupted by the Devil, and anything that they say is invalid.

Do you see my point? You believe for a reason, but I don't know what that reason is. If the Bible preaches that asking such questions is to be forbidden, then I can only say that the Bible is a bit anti-intellectual.

I do not preach my beliefs among the eyes of eager to put me down and my beliefs.

I'm not eager to specifically put down your beliefs. I simply want to know what they are so that I may see if they're logically consistent, consistent with science, and so on. If something is reasonable, I'm not going to call it stupid.

Besides, you already seem to be preaching your beliefs. If you just want to tell us "you're wrong, and I'm right", well, I don't have much to say to you. If, however, you want to discuss why I'm wrong, and you're right, then a conversation can flourish.

 

[EL17E]

You people seem to believe in everything your parents and the New Testament tell you. You are lost. Just because someone or something says something and claims their correct doesn't mean they're true... Now in this world you have to be a very open-minded person. Be aware that what may be right to you may be wrong to others so thoroughly examine the views of others others and find the actual facts before insulting their beliefs. I myself, at one time was Atheist.

 

[00 0wn 00]

I don't need evidence , it says in the bible there is all types of people and events that will try to demise and put the credibility of the bible to ashes.

I do not preach my beliefs among the eyes of eager to put me down and my beliefs.

So far, in this topic, you have proven that:

You are hypocritical
An idiot
Close-minded
Unable to control your emotions or temper

Congratulations.

 

[EL17E]

So far, in this topic, you have proven that:

You are hypocritical
An idiot
Close-minded
Unable to control your emotions or temper

Congratulations.

God bless you.

 

[Jeffreycat]

RELIGION IS ALL FALSE IN MY OPINION! Believe in plausible things like science!!

 

[EL17E]

RELIGION IS ALL FALSE IN MY OPINION! Believe in plausible things like science!!

Hey, the Qur'an mentions alot of scientific information, much of which was just discovered by the scientists of our and our parents' generation.

 

[PerfectPc]

You have no respect for Atheists? Silly of you, it's just a difference in theological opinion.

You're just saying that we will rot in Hell. You're not proving anything.

Exactly.!

 

[Shredderbeam]

Hey, the Qur'an mentions alot of scientific information, much of which was just discovered by the scientists of our and our parents' generation.

The Koran mentions a lot of information that can be vaguely interpreted to be in accord with what science says.

 

[EL17E]

Dude, it depends on the way you interpret it. They'res many people trying to claim a thing too many, one verse could mean more than one thing and could be talking about something else entirely. It would be more logical to doubt those claims over the Qur'an itself. You've heard that story called "Religion and the Scientist", right? Whoever the author is, he's one of those over claimers...

 

[Shredderbeam]

Dude, it depends on the way you interpret it. They'res many people trying to claim a thing too many, one verse could mean more than one thing and could be talking about something else entirely. Don't doubt the Qur'an, doubt those claims. You've heard that story called "Religion and the Scientist", right?

I just said that it depended on the interpretation. Obviously, I know that.

These "scientific facts" are idiotic. The only reason that people still believe that they are true is because fundamentalist Muslims claim that the verses in the original Arabic could not be fully translated to English, and that if only you knew Arabic, you would understand. Perhaps another reason is all of those who would behead those who insult Islam.

 

[EL17E]

I just said that it depended on the interpretation. Obviously, I know that.

These "scientific facts" are idiotic. The only reason that people still believe that they are true is because fundamentalist Muslims claim that the verses in the original Arabic could not be fully translated to English, and that if only you knew Arabic, you would understand. Perhaps another reason is all of those who would behead those who insult Islam.

Well the fundamentalists aren't doing Islam a favor, they're just giving it a bad name...

The disputed "scientific facts" are of not a immense quantity tough. The Qur'an does show some verses which more thoroughly explain the scientific logic behind things. Well, because of all the "blur", you could say the Qur'an is more a book of signs rather than definitely stated scientific facts.

For example:

In chapter 22, verse 5, "... We cause whom we will to rest in the womb for an appointed term...".

In chapter 23, verse 18, "We sent down water from the sky measure and lodged it in the ground and we certainly are able to withdraw it."

In chapter 25, verse 61, "Blessed is the one who placed the constellations in the Heaven and placed therein a lamp and a Moon reflecting light."

In chapter 27, verse 18, "They ... The ants bury the dead and can have what can be said to be an equivalent of a market place."

 

[Shredderbeam]

In chapter 22, verse 5, "... We cause whom we will to rest in the womb for an appointed term...".

I rather think that people knew that women were pregnant for around 9 months before the Quran came into being.

In chapter 23, verse 18, "We sent down water from the sky measure and lodged it in the ground and we certainly are able to withdraw it."

Rain does not necessitate a God.

In chapter 25, verse 61, "Blessed is the one who placed the constellations in the Heaven and placed therein a lamp and a Moon reflecting light."

That's probably my favorite verse. It shows that the people of that time were able to critically perceive their environment.

The fact that the moon reflects light can actually be observed by a single man, with no special equipment. The positions of the Earth, sun, and moon will result with a certain phase of the moon being shown in the sky. All one had to do was recognize that the Earth was round, and that the sun and the moon moved (it appears as if the sun moves; it is not necessary to presume the rotation of the Earth).

In chapter 27, verse 18, "They ... The ants bury the dead and can have what can be said to be an equivalent of a market place."

From what I understand, ants do not bury their dead. They may recycle their bodies, so as not to wasted nutrients, however

They have a common area, true enough, but it's not quite a place where goods and services are exchanged. In any case, this can be observed by simply looking at an ant nest.

 

[L3lz Artarmic]

V1olentstr2, you claim to preach Christianity and the message of Jesus, yet your actions, opinions and attitude, which seem to revolve around petty insults, hatred and idiocy, are exactly that of which your "religion" claims to be against.

Along with obviously being around 11 or 12 years old, (or having some sort of mental deformity, which is very possible, as your posts are just sickeningly full of bad grammar and failure to debate on any level), you call yourself a Christian yet you obviously know nothing about Christianity and totally fail to uphold the ideologies that Christianity promotes. Idiot.

Shredderbeam, why even try to debate with this kid? He's obviously not going to understand your complex answers to his questions (and I mean complex in his mind), and you're not going to sway his ignorant, deluded views on religion.

 

[EL17E]

Hmm... Those were just developing theories around that exact time when Islam was first perceived and scientifically proven by some Arab and few Greek scientists. What it was saying about the length of time a women was pregnant was probably talking about that how babies can be born pre- or over- mature. Also, I have seen ants get buried in a mini-ant farm a few times.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Hmm... Those were just developing theories around that exact time when Islam was first perceived and scientifically proven by some Arab and few Greek scientists. What it was saying about the length of time a women was pregnant was probably talking about that how babies can be born pre- or over- mature. Also, I have seen ants get buried in a mini-ant farm a few times.

Actually, those concepts were around since the time of the Ancient Greeks.

Ants, being creatures that dig in dirt, probably get buried once in a while.

Shredderbeam, why even try to debate with this kid? He's obviously not going to understand your complex answers to his questions (and I mean complex in his mind), and you're not going to sway his ignorant, deluded views on religion.

I find it to be delicious fun.