Boy Scouts and Gays

[djweasel]

I don't see why this is an issue, unless they are trying to be a cult. I mean honestly lets be honest on this, the Military has a don't ask don't tell policy. I'm pretty sure if some gay dude wants to join they will.

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

I don't see why this is an issue, unless they are trying to be a cult. I mean honestly lets be honest on this, the Military has a don't ask don't tell policy. I'm pretty sure if some gay dude wants to join they will.

Don't ask don't tell was actually repealed two years ago as it was a discriminatory policy. Openly gay people now serve in the military just fine, and it hasn't had any negative effects. Why would people think that it's going to effect the boy scouts when it doesn't effect the military?

 

[Cabbage]

I don't see what difference it makes in other scouts' lives. I have a few gay friends, and I don't really care. I'm personally glad they are taking this issue by the horns and may possibly turn this whole thing around.

 

[djweasel]

Don't ask don't tell was actually repealed two years ago as it was a discriminatory policy. Openly gay people now serve in the military just fine, and it hasn't had any negative effects. Why would people think that it's going to effect the boy scouts when it doesn't effect the military?

Well that's what I mean I don't see how theres really gonna be a negative effect.

 

They allow girls in to the Scouts. If they can bend their rules to that, why should gays be any different?

 

[mage3158]

This pretty much sums up the problems I see arising from accepting homosexuals into the group.

Camping (which is much more prominent in boy scouts than cub scouts, a monthly ordeal in my troop where the adult:child ratio is around 1:3-5, as opposed to once a year in cub scouts where pretty much every cub scout has at least one parent) is in a fairly intimate setting, middle of nowhere woods for an entire weekend.

All that needs to happen once homosexuals are openly admitted is a SINGLE pedophilia case to go down or a sexual harassment claim between scouts and then shit will undoubtedly hit the fan; parents screaming "This would've never happened if we never accepted gays in the first place", and the LGBT community + supporters saying that this is an n=1 case yadda yadda yadda. The end result being back and forth with no progress.

Not to mention the fact that it'll be VERY hard to come to a concrete conclusion as to what ACTUALLY happened. Example being a rowdy scout who doesn't like X adult for whatever reason; starts telling people that X adult touched him inappropriately at 3 in the morning when everyone else was sleeping while they were camping. It's pretty much one person's words versus another, which holds little to no credibility in court. There's no CCTV's in the fucking woods, and even if X adult isn't convicted, their reputation will be forever tarnished (Think Ray Lewis/OJ Simpson/Kobe).

Not to mention any openly gay scouts in the program will no doubt be bullied and harassed once adults have their back turned (Like I said before, roughly 3-5 scouts per adult, and scouts are usually on their own).

As I was saying before; pretty lose-lose for the Boy Scouts which is a shame for such a fine organization.

So your argument is only fear of confrontation? Like it or not, most teens who commit sexual offenses with their own gender are not openly gay, this policy doesn't help that.

 

[kill dank]

They allow girls in to the Scouts. If they can bend their rules to that, why should gays be any different?

They allow female leaders since they're usually one of the scouts parents..

 

They allow female leaders since they're usually one of the scouts parents..

I was talking about actual "Scouts", not leaders.

 

[Foxin]

I don't think that people should be discriminated against for their sexual orientation. If they aren't hurting anybody, let them be.

 

[Drygores]

Im not gay or anything, but by all means Im definitely not homophobic. Boy scouts should be open to any young guy, regardless of their sexual orientation. Sounds pretty discriminatory.

 

[General_Kerr]

Gay boys need to go to girl scouts. Tell the girls "Don't Worry, He's gay"

Im still reading through replies, interesting stuff, and I'm not sure what the decision should be

EDIT: thats a joke btw

 

[kill dank]

I was talking about actual "Scouts", not leaders.

Since when?

 

[mage3158]

Since when?

In the US? Never, although individual troops are free to let in whoever they want, but it's never official.. In the UK? Since 1991.

 

[Seldom niga]

So there's a Boy Scouts of America, Girl Scouts of America, is there going to be a Gay/Lesbian Scouts of America?

rofl lmfao

 

[Gazby]

As a 8-12 y/o kids scout leader (from Canada), and male bi-sexual, I see absolutely nothing wrong with being gay and being a scout leader. Even if I love the kids (and others adults too) We would never molest any kids, that doesn'T make us pedophile.. And for me, it feel unfair to be judge by some archaic standards about homosexuality...