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I'll give you a prime example as to how Jagex will consider someone a bot, no matter how human they are, if they are breaking these Guidelines, even if they are actually playing the game. Mazime, one of our users played Soul Wars legit for ~72 hours straight (minus bathroom breaks, and time to bring more food/water to the computer desk). He was banned by Jagex for macroing, a permanent ban, even while he was 100% legit and on the computer the whole time he was playing, yet he was still banned for macroing.

So Mazime never botted, ever? Not once? And he goes to RiD regularly? Sorry but your proof is not airtight.

I'm sorry, Trent--you seem like a smart guy--but posts from you and other RiD diehards are full of these confirmation biases. Just accept that Jagex has bested the RiD system, and pray that your new 2.0 is something that is more undetectable. Unless RiD hires Chinese workers to play for you, it's impossible for it to be completely undetectable, even with following the guidelines.
 
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pretty sure JAG allows jagex to see which type of client is being used, if they can give certain computers access through JAG, I'm sure they can track which program you are using to access or play with runescape, only way I can see Jagex knowing it was RID being used
 
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Still going with some powerbot scripts and still have 0 bans, I guess i am what 5 up on RID. I unfortunately lost my 2 week proggy, but what can you do I guess.

Also trent seems like that monday thing has gone and passed.
 
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OT" The way the cleaned house in a few areas even grabbing some of RiDs bots should be a sign they probably aren't just talking shit. Every world Grotworms Turoths summer garden all cleaned in a matter of no time was clearly a warning shot to other botters. I assume when they release this update fully in a day or so that it will be maxed out removing bots for a good week. You will see people talking about how they are still botting with no troubles but assume there is just an amount the system can handle at once. It can't go through every world banning 60k accounts in a second which is why they probably cleaned out the heavy areas first before the release to avoid the detection system from completely freaking the F out.



Also I think this purge of bots will be good for a while it will let prices settle, worlds will be clean of G plate D med wearing turds. and great timing also so when the bot makers are trying to change scripts to beat the system again EoC will hit and set bots back even farther.

Now don't get me wrong I dont mind bot as long as they are personal bots. You put on a g plate d med and come by me I will stop my bot just to report them. That kind of shit is what ruins the game. Not someone personally botting for some gold or levels I could careless. You want to fm to 99 rock on but when you build an army to gold farm already crowded places I report the crap out of them.

HTML5 isn't the website, it is the game.
 
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So Mazime never botted, ever? Not once? And he goes to RiD regularly? Sorry but your proof is not airtight.

I'm sorry, Trent--you seem like a smart guy--but posts from you and other RiD diehards are full of these confirmation biases. Just accept that Jagex has bested the RiD system, and pray that your new 2.0 is something that is more undetectable. Unless RiD hires Chinese workers to play for you, it's impossible for it to be completely undetectable, even with following the guidelines.

You really shouldn't make assumptions because Assume makes an Ass of U and Me.

Mazime was perm banned for macroing when he was doing 72 hours legit at Soul Wars. His account being banned was the deciding force that made him start botting.

TL;DR

Banned playing legit -> Starts botting in retaliation.

Also, if the bot was actually detectable following Guidelines, then why, in over 4 years, has there not been ANY bans following Guidelines, period. By 2011 there was over 600,000 hours botted by the community, and it's definitely even more since 2012. Surely if the bots were detectable following Guidelines we would see bans by now. I've even contacted Jagex via email and asked them to monitor my account for an influx of randoms. I continued to bot every day, and I managed to get a response from them saying it had something to do with me failing the prison pete random, but that everything seems to be fine and they will manually fix that problem for the time being. If it were detectable, surely I would have been banned through this inspection? Aufi, one of the Super Mods did the same thing, which is where I got the idea from, and he botted 15 hours a day during that inspection. Still no ban.

pretty sure JAG allows jagex to see which type of client is being used, if they can give certain computers access through JAG, I'm sure they can track which program you are using to access or play with runescape, only way I can see Jagex knowing it was RID being used

Obviously you've never used RiD because it plays controlling your mouse through the browser on RS's official site, or through Jagex's official RS client. So yeah, your logic is invalid

@Trent - It can't be undetectable if people have been caught using it.

and also,

If I created a bot with my extensive knowledge of java (sarcasm) and it manages to work.(Say for example, I made a simple alcher)
Although it is easily noticeable by any JMod / players, could I say that ok, here are the guidelines:

You must be in the middle of nowhere while alching so no one can see you to report you.
You must only use the bot 10 minutes a day.
You must always be present while bot is doing its business incase of screw ups.

If you followed these guidelines, this bot is 100% undetectable!

...

Reductio ad absurdum.

Your logic is fucking terrible.

The RiD Guidelines are everything that make you look EXACTLY like a human. Following them = blending in with humans. 8 hours is completely different than 10 minutes, and there are no mentions of any specific places to bot. There is also nothing what-so-ever that states you have to be near the bot. There's even a specific setting on the GUI for users who are completely away from the computer while they are botting.

And as I've already said, repeatedly I might add, is that there's a difference between Jagex catching the bot and catching the behavior. When you break the Guidelines you leave a trace, while following them you do not, period.

RiD Guidelines said:
Using the right tools for the job is by far the most important thing, but what we do is against the rules, and to get away with it you need to be untraceable. These guidelines will tell you how to leave behind no evidence. No member who followed these guidelines has ever been banned.

You claim that something is not undetectable if you get caught and banned with it? So by your logic playing legitimately is not undetectable either, due to the fact that people HAVE been banned for botting when they've never done it.
 
I had an account in 2006 Named Fomay get permenently banned.

In my inbox for macroing

What I was doing?

Legitly training at bandit camp.


Heres your sign.


Since then i became a botter and play rs has never been better.
 
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I had an account in 2006 Named Fomay get permenently banned.

In my inbox for macroing

What I was doing?

Legitly training at bandit camp.


Heres your sign.


Since then i became a botter and play rs has never been better.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Jagex can, have, and will ban if they see signs of behavior or play-time that they deem as inhuman or most likely a bot, even when you are human, or if your program replicates that of a human. This means that even though RiD passes as human, if you are breaking the Guidelines, you are giving Jagex ammunition to ban you.
 
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You really shouldn't make assumptions because Assume makes an Ass of U and Me.

Mazime was perm banned for macroing when he was doing 72 hours legit at Soul Wars. His account being banned was the deciding force that made him start botting.

TL;DR

Banned playing legit -> Starts botting in retaliation.

Also, if the bot was actually detectable following Guidelines, then why, in over 4 years, has there not been ANY bans following Guidelines, period. By 2011 there was over 600,000 hours botted by the community, and it's definitely even more since 2012. Surely if the bots were detectable following Guidelines we would see bans by now. I've even contacted Jagex via email and asked them to monitor my account for an influx of randoms. I continued to bot every day, and I managed to get a response from them saying it had something to do with me failing the prison pete random, but that everything seems to be fine and they will manually fix that problem for the time being. If it were detectable, surely I would have been banned through this inspection? Aufi, one of the Super Mods did the same thing, which is where I got the idea from, and he botted 15 hours a day during that inspection. Still no ban.



Obviously you've never used RiD because it plays controlling your mouse through the browser on RS's official site, or through Jagex's official RS client. So yeah, your logic is invalid



Your logic is fucking terrible.

The RiD Guidelines are everything that make you look EXACTLY like a human. Following them = blending in with humans. 8 hours is completely different than 10 minutes, and there are no mentions of any specific places to bot. There is also nothing what-so-ever that states you have to be near the bot. There's even a specific setting on the GUI for users who are completely away from the computer while they are botting.

And as I've already said, repeatedly I might add, is that there's a difference between Jagex catching the bot and catching the behavior. When you break the Guidelines you leave a trace, while following them you do not, period.



You claim that something is not undetectable if you get caught and banned with it? So by your logic playing legitimately is not undetectable either, due to the fact that people HAVE been banned for botting when they've never done it.

Rid still uses something to control your mouse doesnt it? Isnt that considered a program? Im sure you are still running an exe. For rid. Please trent explain to me how rid is not a program because it controls your mouse. With this logic a ghost mouse isn't a program either.

I never said rid uses a client derp but it is still a program.
 
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