Blackhat rule update

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Blackhat rule update
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:23 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    We decided to be a bit more tolerant when it comes to offsite blackhat activities. In general, when a blackhat offence does not directly or indirectly affect Sythe and its users, we will not issue a ban. If we feel like you are a danger to the Sythe community, it is indirectly affecting Sythe and will still warrant a ban. The rules have been updated to include this change.

    To clarify, our judgement on many blackhat cases will still be the same. What this basically means is that we don't autoban for minor offsite blackhat anymore while we previously did. There are no strict guidelines, there have never been strict guidelines. Nothing changed there. We will look at everything case-by-case and do what we think is appropriate.

    If you have been banned for offsite blackhat activities and you feel like your ban was unjustified, we advise you to create a dispute.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:26 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    :)

    Just saying, so does this constitute DDOS/Carding/Social engineering as not against the Sythe rules if it not affecting a Sythe user? For example social engineering/hacking non-Sythe members?
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:28 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    Cool, so now I can go do whatever the hell I want (besides scamming) so long as it isn't targeted at Sythe? Great logic.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:38 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    We don't care about such offsite blackhat activities. However, if we feel like you're a danger to the community, it warrants a ban.
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    Now that doesn't really make sense does it? If you're giving the green light for black hat activities, obviously anyone who DDos's/Hacks accounts will be perceived as a danger to the community. There is no safety net and that leads to the possibility of a blackhat being banned randomly because a staff member deemed you to be dangerous?
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:44 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    To clarify we this is a limitation of the scope of jurisdiction both in geography and subject matter. We don't condone black hat but we're not going to waste staff resources investigating offsite activity, especially when there isn't a scam report against someone. Our staff act as courts not police.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:46 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    I understand you guys don't condone black hat but if someone were to report a Sythe member for hacking Runescape accounts (Offsite) or maybe carding/DDOS would that warrant a ban?
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:48 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    Lol so that's like half of the users FireZ has banned over the years. Welcome back.
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    As moes said if we perceive a reasonable danger to the community we will ban or dnt as precaution
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:52 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    Well black hat activities like DDoSing or social engineering offsite isn't really a case by case biases, it's the same throughout. Do those activities denote a member to be dangerous?
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:52 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    We are more tolerant now on offsite blackhat when it's not affecting Sythe than we were before. I am not giving you green light to start blackhat activities. I advice you to steer clear of blackhat activities.
     
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  25. Unread #13 - Feb 22, 2017 at 4:56 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    I'm just going to state that if you guys don't rule what is distinguished to make a Sythe user to be deemed dangerous, things will get messy.
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    Depends on the severity, it's all case by case.
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Feb 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    Alright then I will give you this hypothetical situation and I would like to get a grasp on your outlook.

    Sythe user is a social engineer and participates in off-site black hat activities. He makes a thread with all his "Loot pics" of all the victims he hacked on Runescape.

    Would this indicate the Sythe user as "dangerous" or a "threat"?
     
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  31. Unread #16 - Feb 22, 2017 at 5:12 PM
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    Blackhat rule update

    That would result in a ban because that user would obviously be a danger to the community as it is directly related to our activities on Sythe. I do not comment on any other individual cases. I've been clear enough in my posts.
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    Awful way to implement this. I agree with the principle but when people ask specifics, don't just say "it's a case by case basis." Give some sort of guidelines rather than "if we feel you're a threat"...
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    Just remember everyone dnt is for our protection, so is not just keeping people banned that sre blackhatters. All for safety.
     
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    Blackhat rule update

    DNT'ing a black hat doesn't mean your safe.
     
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    Make sure to give gansta freak or w/e his name was mod status back lmao
     
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