Be safe, seriously

[Vul]

That was not a joke? Inform yourself, stop listening to bullshit media lol. Mostly elders are dying to this, as they would from the flu most likely if there was no medicine for it.

Not necessarily. Anyone with underlying conditions can die to it. It's also more severe than the flu and that's.. a well known fact. "Mostly" elders is a lie. A lot of younger people and middle-aged people are dying to it too. It's around even really.

Yes that's true they would most likely die from the flu if there were no vaccines/meds for it, but COVID-19 is worse. SARS was worse than this but not as dmuch as this in response, but SARS had a lower infectivity (death rate was 10%).

Someone with asthma though, in their early 20s? High risk. This is way more dangerous than the flu my man. My friend who lives in Scotland has an ENTIRE family of people at risk and her pap's showing symptoms, it could potentially kill her whole family except her. This isn't something to be all "sheeple" about, this is a serious ass thing man. Some "high risk" people have HAD the flu before and it wasn't... this bad. COVID kills.

It is true that it could potentially kill millions. However the direct and fast response from (most) countries (except AUS and UK and prob America lol) has lowered its severity quite a bit. Lockdown is the right thing to do, only go out for food or essentials. Testing shows we're not even that far from treatment anyways, this wouldn't last long. A lockdown is the right move.

Also, the ecofascism isn't cute. The air we breathe has gotten 'better', yes, but the whole "venice canals" shit and all that is overblown bs. It's not like the world instantly gets cleaner, the venice canals were only dirty bc of dirt being stirred up from under them. Now the dirts resting at the bottom. That's just one example.

This whole "we are the virus" shit is retarded. We aren't. We're animals just like the other creatures inhabiting this goddamned earth, we're just the ones who evolved into a higher level of sentience. We can change the earth for the better without a virus wiping a shit ton of us out. Cmon.

 

Not necessarily. Anyone with underlying conditions can die to it. It's also more severe than the flu and that's.. a well known fact. "Mostly" elders is a lie. A lot of younger people and middle-aged people are dying to it too. It's around even really.

Yes that's true they would most likely die from the flu if there were no vaccines/meds for it, but COVID-19 is worse. SARS was worse than this but not as dmuch as this in response, but SARS had a lower infectivity (death rate was 10%).

Someone with asthma though, in their early 20s? High risk. This is way more dangerous than the flu my man. My friend who lives in Scotland has an ENTIRE family of people at risk and her pap's showing symptoms, it could potentially kill her whole family except her. This isn't something to be all "sheeple" about, this is a serious ass thing man. Some "high risk" people have HAD the flu before and it wasn't... this bad. COVID kills.

It is true that it could potentially kill millions. However the direct and fast response from (most) countries (except AUS and UK and prob America lol) has lowered its severity quite a bit. Lockdown is the right thing to do, only go out for food or essentials. Testing shows we're not even that far from treatment anyways, this wouldn't last long. A lockdown is the right move.

Also, the ecofascism isn't cute. The air we breathe has gotten 'better', yes, but the whole "venice canals" shit and all that is overblown bs. It's not like the world instantly gets cleaner, the venice canals were only dirty bc of dirt being stirred up from under them. Now the dirts resting at the bottom. That's just one example.

This whole "we are the virus" shit is retarded. We aren't. We're animals just like the other creatures inhabiting this goddamned earth, we're just the ones who evolved into a higher level of sentience. We can change the earth for the better without a virus wiping a shit ton of us out. Cmon.

I have family in Italy, they tell me literally only elders are dying to it.

I haven’t heard of a single case of anyone under their 50s dying to it. C’mon man, it was created in a lab. That tells you everything you need to know.

 

[Vul]

I have family in Italy, they tell me literally only elders are dying to it.

I haven’t heard of a single case of anyone under their 50s dying to it. C’mon man, it was created in a lab. That tells you everything you need to know.

"The death toll skews old even more strongly. Overall, China CDC found, 2.3% of confirmed cases died. But the fatality rate was 14.8% in people 80 or older, likely reflecting the presence of other diseases, a weaker immune system, or simply worse overall health. By contrast, the fatality rate was 1.3% in 50-somethings, 0.4% in 40-somethings, and 0.2% in people 10 to 39."

So yes, people are dying in the 10-39 age range. And it's mostly people with underlying conditions like heart issues, asthma, etc. It's not just people above 50. Just because you live in a place doesn't mean it's guaranteed to only be people of a certain age, just cos they live in Italy doesn't mean they know absolutely everything about every COVID-19 case. I'm not saying they're wrong, because it's definitely more likely to cause death in those 50+, but.. yeah

Also, it wasn't created in a lab. It was worked on in a lab though, but the viruses originated in bats iirc. There were 6 coronaviruses worked on and maintained in a Wuhan lab (can find the source if you really want), and it could have either been that lab it leaked from, or it could have been a zoonotic shift from the Huanen wet market (where it's believed to have came from).

It was absolutely not created. It was found, then tested on. But it wasn't really extensively tested anyway. They just knew of its existence before this.

 

[norfwest]

The part about it being less dangerous than the flu NATURALLY is serious and has already been proven, they just don't have anything to counter it as of yet. For the flu, they do.

The other part is a theory, but it's more than likely true.

@Pegasus

You're a moron. Naturally? What do you mean by that? If we don't have a treatment, then naturally, it's killing people. Or is it unnaturally killing people? I have the sense that you're trolling.

I wish everybody a wonderful spring despite disturbance.

 

@Pegasus

You're a moron. Naturally? What do you mean by that? If we don't have a treatment, then naturally, it's killing people. Or is it unnaturally killing people? I have the sense that you're trolling.

I wish everybody a wonderful spring despite disturbance.

I meant that without treatment of either, the flu is more dangerous than corona.

 

[Qemo]

That was not a joke? Inform yourself, stop listening to bullshit media lol. Mostly elders are dying to this, as they would from the flu most likely if there was no medicine for it.

Bro are you degenerated? only elders are dying? my friends sister died in spain and he was healthy female 27 years old get your facts straight calling joke to something that kills people

 

[Qemo]

and he says that flu is more serious than corona lmfao flu kills 40k people yearly and corona already killed 1/4 of it and thats going on while whole world is on lockdown

if they didnt quaranteened there would be millions dying

 

[LogoGambling]

Don't be a jerk. If people are scared about the virus, let them be scared. If people don't care about it, decrease interactions with them, but don't be a jerk. Help others if you can. We are all a community of human beings, so help someone out if you have the ability to do so.

See how easy it is for this to spread: https://twitter.com/i/status/1241590500571910144

 

I've never seen so many uneducated comments in a thread before. Legit morons lmao. TY for trying to keep others safe @Dbuffed

 

I've never seen so many uneducated comments in a thread before. Legit morons lmao. TY for trying to keep others safe @Dbuffed

My comments were edited so didnt' really say everything it needed xD, then again doing it all via discord so I don't mind too much.

Hope all is good brother, keep safe!

 

[Vul]

Don't listen to Pegasus lmao. Don't be a retard and just self-isolate and only go out when you need to, like if you're an essential worker or if you need groceries.

It's literally factually known that without treatment of either, corona is more dangerous than the flu. The flu doesn't permanently damage your lungs and/or kill you. COVID-19 if it doesn't kill you but you have it bad can damage your lungs to the point of where you lose 20-30% of function. That's... not a joke.

The death rate for the seasonal flu is around 0.1% in the USA. The death rate of COVID-19 has far surpassed that.

0.1% for seasonal flu. COVID-19 is at like... 3-5%? In Italy it's around 7.2%. Yeah... not looking pretty.

Also Italy's just had 700 people die today so like.... yeah. That's quite a fucking bit. That's more than China's reported daily iirc.

Anyways. This thread was most likely meant to be taken more positively, so if ya'll want to discuss COVID-19 deeper and get into more semantics why not take it elsewhere or something? Lol

 

[Battlemartin]

Don't listen to Pegasus lmao. Don't be a retard and just self-isolate and only go out when you need to, like if you're an essential worker or if you need groceries.

It's literally factually known that without treatment of either, corona is more dangerous than the flu. The flu doesn't permanently damage your lungs and/or kill you. COVID-19 if it doesn't kill you but you have it bad can damage your lungs to the point of where you lose 20-30% of function. That's... not a joke.

The death rate for the seasonal flu is around 0.1% in the USA. The death rate of COVID-19 has far surpassed that.

0.1% for seasonal flu. COVID-19 is at like... 3-5%? In Italy it's around 7.2%. Yeah... not looking pretty.

Also Italy's just had 700 people die today so like.... yeah. That's quite a fucking bit. That's more than China's reported daily iirc.

Anyways. This thread was most likely meant to be taken more positively, so if ya'll want to discuss COVID-19 deeper and get into more semantics why not take it elsewhere or something? Lol

Well depends how you take it mate, the death rate is taken off the active cases and deaths, but you gotta think about the recovered cases and the deaths, because the people infected have the chance to die. In Italy there are around 6400 deaths and 8300 recovered which means that a 44% of closed cases ended up in fatalities and that if you mantain that ratio, 22000 of 54000 infected people would die.
The problem is that Italy has a lot of elderly people, that makes that the death ratio be high, and many of the death had previous illness such as diabetes, maybe lung problems, etc. So that number doesn't reflect the reality

 

[JSand]

Well depends how you take it mate, the death rate is taken off the active cases and deaths, but you gotta think about the recovered cases and the deaths, because the people infected have the chance to die. In Italy there are around 6400 deaths and 8300 recovered which means that a 44% of closed cases ended up in fatalities and that if you mantain that ratio, 22000 of 54000 infected people would die.
The problem is that Italy has a lot of elderly people, that makes that the death ratio be high, and many of the death had previous illness such as diabetes, maybe lung problems, etc. So that number doesn't reflect the reality

This thought process is incredibly stupid, as if being older means your life matters less. I hate seeing “only old people die of this”, that doesn’t mean shit. A life is a life.

Everyone, stay the fuck home if you can. Even if your healthy, you can be the cause of someone not as healthy contracting the disease and dying because of it. That’s what this is all about and why we’re all in lockdown. Don’t be so selfish

 

[Vul]

I understand yes, Italy has a lot of elderly, but it doesn't mean it's less impactful. These are people too you gotta understand, they have families and it's horrible to see a loved one die from suffering than old age. I would rather have my grandfather go out in his sleep peacefully than die from sepsis or COVID-19.

I went out today to get KFC (we had to go to town ANYWAYS but still), so I'm not innocent either, but after today everything is on lockdown. There are also no confirmed cases anywhere near me and travel is being locked down tonight. Closest is 2 hours away. Only 3 cases on either side of me iirc, all are on strict 14 day lockdown.

However, no matter where I or anyone else goes, stay at least 2 meters or 6 feet apart. FAR.

My friend's dad is almost nearing critical condition and he's at home. Vomiting anything even WATER. He is an at-risk category. Her whole family could be wiped out except for her potentially. This is dangerous, please do not play with it. Not just the elderly are dying, her sister and father could go too.

He's never gone outside. She went outside once, visited her BF and that was about it. Now her father's in a dangerous spot.

Please, no matter if you're a theorist on this or not, just respect the victims or possible victims of this nasty hoe virus.

 

[Battlemartin]

This thought process is incredibly stupid, as if being older means your life matters less. I hate seeing “only old people die of this”, that doesn’t mean shit. A life is a life.

Everyone, stay the fuck home if you can. Even if your healthy, you can be the cause of someone not as healthy contracting the disease and dying because of it. That’s what this is all about and why we’re all in lockdown. Don’t be so selfish

What? I never say that elder people doesn't matter, I just say that it makes the virus deadlier if you are old. It's being said everywhere, and as Italy population lives a lot (my Italian grandpa lived 92 years, similar to his brothers/sisters) it's obvious that the virus is going to kill more people there

 

[JSand]

What? I never say that elder people doesn't matter, I just say that it makes the virus deadlier if you are old. It's being said everywhere, and as Italy population lives a lot (my Italian grandpa lived 92 years, similar to his brothers/sisters) it's obvious that the virus is going to kill more people there

Your post sounded like it was uncaring. It’s hard to discern tone over the internet so I apologize if I was incorrect.

My point still stands to everyone else who says it’s only a disease that kills older people.

 

[Battlemartin]

Your post sounded like it was uncaring. It’s hard to discern tone over the internet so I apologize if I was incorrect.

My point still stands to everyone else who says it’s only a disease that kills older people.

No no, I care about them hahaha, and it's true that here u can't discern the tone My point was about the death ratio in Italy that makes sense because of their longevity and as it's being said everywhere, coronavirus kills mainly elder and people with previous illness

 

[Sypherz]

I've never seen so many uneducated comments in a thread before. Legit morons lmao. @Dbuffed

No reason to educate yourself when you've already been quarantined in mom's basement for years.

 

[Upsala]

Stay safe

 

[Jags]

Crazy how people are saying the media Over hyped it. We young people can survive it easily, but our parents can contract it easily and they are the ones to perish instead of us. Regardless if we survive it, people who have had the corona virus said its 2x worse than the flu, weeks of pain, high fever, struggling to breathe. Corona virus is serious, i have a friend irl who recently came back from vacation and didn't know she had it and the symptoms showed 5 days later and almost got all of her friends sick and they are all quarantined right now just in case. It's scary how the symptoms show so late and thats why its so easy to spread