An Nexus/IBot Admin allegedly scammed users

[haxirs]

You have four posts here. One is back in April, and the other three are to whore for RSCA here.

You're equating me to Sythe here. I'm not associated with the administration of Sythe. You also avoided the main issue Carl Erickson presented: RSCA is also in the business of promoting cheating. Nor does it matter if Sythe cheats more. That doesn't justify RSCA promoting cheating also.

Somebody who WAS an admin on RSCA got caught scamming its members. That's posted on their front page. Apparently, he was still affiliated with them when he got caught doing whatever he was doing. Also, apparently, he'd been scamming people for quite a while before they finally confronted him with it. Why did it take that long? Why didn't they confront him sooner? Apparently, the administrators of RSCA don't know who to trust and/or aren't too bright about catching scammers. I doubt that's going to get them a sudden influx of customers.

Mark is offering to give the scammer's personal information out. It doesn't matter what the scammer did. An administrator of a site giving out personal information is wrong on many levels. If anybody has a big enough problem that they need somebody's personal information, and they don't have it available (such as they would if they traded via Paypal), then let them contact their local law enforcement agency. When the authorities serve a subpoena on RSCA, THEN AND ONLY THEN should personal information be given out. What would stop a stalker, hacker, or mischievous person from saying he/she got scammed and getting the person's personal information? A site that gives out personal information to whoever wants it is NOT a site many would want to do business with.

I'm told the free version of Nexus isn't minimizable, and that some other features don't work. Being minimizable would be a key feature for most serious botters.

My friend said that he bought four scripts and used five or six free ones and only one script (a free one) worked. The rest sucked ass. Ibot itself froze and crashed, hogged CPU and RAM, and slowed down everything else he ran. I can't see many people willing to pay $15 a month for that.

Do feel free to keep promoting RSCA here and defending their stupidity and ineptitude by pointing fingers at somebody else and calling others names. It won't stop people from knowing what the truth is.

Dude, are you seriously that ignorant? or are you just acting...

Semi note: What's your point of me having 4 post here?

I been in the RS cheating seen way longer than you have.

1st.

I am not saying that sythe "cheats more", I don't give a fuck about cheating, I cheat all the time.....

What I am talking about here is scamming within the same community.

let me brake it down, since you seem to misunderstand me.

People in the sythe "black market" in most of the time, WILL Scam you.

Suppose I am trying to buy some mills from any of the users here, I have a 70% chance of getting scammed by that person in the process of trying to buy the mills.


2. In no way am I promoting RSCA, in fact, I am trying to correct the post that people have made, and the amount of hypocrisy that this thread has.

I would also do that if it was any community, because you have absolutely no right of telling people the site "sucks" just because your friend had a bad experience with it

3. Until you try it yourself, don't post, and don't write BS about people.

Your friend probably had a bad computer, and did not know how to use the bot.



BTW, look at sythes past I have had many friends scammed by Mods and Admins here.

Don't be a hypocrite.

Shit happens, and sometimes you can't control it, and the person who scams is good at it.

"A site that gives out personal information to whoever wants it is NOT a site many would want to do business with."

Because you will be afraid of doing your scamming?

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=3402531#post3402531

Once again, HYPOCRITE!

Thanks,

HaXiRs

 

[Carl Erickson]

Anybody with half of a clue will know that somebody who has made exactly one post since June of 2006, then comes in and makes four posts defending RSCA(M), is a shill for them. Trying to convince us otherwise is insulting our intelligence.

You talk about hypocrisy, but you don't seem to understand what that word means. Let me try to BREAK ("not brake, as you incorrectly used") it down into little pieces so you can understand (although I'm afraid I'm fighting a losing battle there): I'm not affiliated with Sythe. tom jr. has stated the he is not affiliated with Sythe. You seem to have a problem understanding that. What Sythe does has NOTHING to do with this thread. It was started with the intention of discussing a rather disturbing series of events and to offer opinions of the merits of Nexus/Ibot. You keep going off topic by attacking Sythe. They aren't involved here. Nobody affiliated with Sythe has said anything bad about RSCA(M) in this thread. The link you provide has nothing to do with this thread. You're off topic, calling people names (i.e. "hypocrite"), and ordering people around. If you have a problem with Sythe cheating, you're welcome to start your own thread about it. Your opinions of Sythe have no relevance to this thread. This thread is about RSCA(M) and about the Ibot program.

As for revealing somebody's personal information, that's not right, and everybody knows it. Every reputable site out there doesn't give any personal information out without permission of the customer, and then only to other reputable business partners. What would stop your RSCA(M) site from spreading my personal information all over the internet if they got pissed at me for something that only a fourth-grader would get upset about? If you've been on the cheating SCENE (not "seen" as you incorrectly used), you'd know that it isn't safe to trust somebody who isn't responsible with your personal information. Without the permission of the customer, there's no excuse WHATSOEVER to give out personal information to anybody except law enforcement agencies with valid court orders.

My friend programs in Java and several other languages; that is what he does for a living. He doesn't have time to write a core bot from scratch, so he uses a core program and writes scripts. He's tried both Rsbot and Nexus/Ibot. His preference is Rsbot----this from a man who programs for a living)--- and he said it isn't even close. He's looked at scripts for both sites, and his comments about the scripts on the Nexus site include, and I quote:

"This must be the work of a dyslexic 11 year old. "

"This code is so much longer than it needs to be that it looks like instead of walking 100 feet to get next door, he decided to walk the other way, clear around the world, to get to next door."

"This yo charges $5 for this piece of s***? He should give people $5 to have to put up with the problems it causes."

"My cat could code better than this dude does."

Now he has said things about scripts from Rsbot, too, but Rsbot doesn't charge $15 a month, either, and their scripts are free.

Now I'm sure we'll hear from you or some other RSCA(M) attack-beagle, and I'm sure they'll point fingers at Sythe, call us names, bark orders, and spin off-topic again, without bothering to defend their position.

Until then, these points are agreed upon in this thread by more people than not: RSCA(M) had a trusted member scam people (old news), they're willing to give his personal information out to anybody who claims they were scammed (wrong thing to do), and their program isn't worth paying $15 a month for when similar/better is free.

 

[Drafun]

Wow. Thats lame.

 

[haxirs]

@ Carl


Wow, your post shows how exactly sythe is full of newbies.

Rsbot an NeXuS are two way different kinds of both, Im pretty sure your friend is 1337, I in fact would like to have a chat with him.

Hit me up on msn if you would like to continue this, I feel like not post anymore in sythe since this forum is full of script kiddies.


btw, http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=3402531#post3402531

I do not represent RSCA.
I am just saying you should look at yourself before pointing at others.

Anways, seriously hit me up on msn: [email protected], would love to have a chat with you

 

[Mark [GenoDemoN]]

They have a thread over on RSCA about this thread.

Among all the other trivial ass-kissing nose blowing, Mark, their fearless leader, had this to say:

http://www.rscheata.net/tp/index.php/topic,36648.0.html



Which rather proves my point of saying that I would be wary of ever giving them my real life information. With people like that, there's no trusting them and no telling what they'd do if they thought they were being slighted.

If for some reason you still want to use IBot after reading all of this, be very careful about what you say and do there. In addition to most of the pay scripts not working, now you have to worry about them coming after you if you say something that doesn't please them. Tread with caution.

hi, the said post you are referring was made by a user of our forum. Not me get your facts straight.

And to the kid with your java friend. cool you compared scripts now take into the context the scripter please. I can write you a cat piss script in RS bot.

Please inform your friend to make a bot if our is soo crappy. Or make rs bot better than ours. I will wait for rs bot to have more capabilities than us. Truth is we actually have more hooks then them and in reflection, your friend should know that bcel is detectable by the game company relativly easy and reflection is impossible to detect with the correct java security settings.

If any of you have real balls you would post @ RSCA about this go ahead I dare you, btw unlike most forums we dont ban people for speaking thier mind we support it.

An now since you made me register a new account.



In defense of haxirs. mabey he use to have alot of posts before one of the many resets this forum has because of being compromised or hacked. Haxirs use to be a big member @ RSCA, then we had a falling out and I banned him for some time. He isnt active there anymore. Our community is different our users for the most part have respect instead of how to turn a quick buck by scamming.



please continue this @ my site.

 

[idkaboutthis]

lol nexus still uses a lot of color picking tbh, and rsbot has a good range of capabilities, explain why i got banned in 2 days using nexus pro on a lvl 47 but i still havent gotten banned using rs bot on a lvl 3 with 78 mining. I dont deny that ibot has capabilities, i just think rsbot is less detectable and still has the capabilities, besides i got private scripts with 100% antiban.

 

[b4d2]

lol nexus still uses a lot of color picking tbh, and rsbot has a good range of capabilities, explain why i got banned in 2 days using nexus pro on a lvl 47 but i still havent gotten banned using rs bot on a lvl 3 with 78 mining. I dont deny that ibot has capabilities, i just think rsbot is less detectable and still has the capabilities, besides i got private scripts with 100% antiban.

You got banned because your to stupid to use it correctly and take breaks which you should do often!!. Also why would j macro be so much better if its free. If it was better they should make you pay. Retarted ftl?

 

[Carl Erickson]

I'll be happy to go over there, as soon as you refute either of my points:

1) RSCA promotes cheating and rule-breaking and has had scammers.

2) RSCA has no business dissing anybody else who does the same thing.

Also, answer me this:

Why are you afraid to continue this on THIS site? No home field advantage?

Continue your arguments right here on a level playing field, without your legions of admirers to support you, without the ability to make multiple accounts and manipulate what's being said, without the ability to mute people.

However, I'm not interested. I don't program much, and I'm not a bot user. I do find haxir's calling others "hypocrites" very funny, since he's being a hypocrite by condemning Sythe for scamming/cheating, when RSCA has the same situation.

One other thing: Don't try to bullshit us about Mike [The Bank] (the one who wants an IP) being merely "a user", because we both know better. You should try to keep your GLOBAL MODERATORS under more control than that. It gives your site a bad name (or I suppose I worse name than it already has).

 

[b4d2]

I hope carl erickson isnt your full name because im going to find your ass.
jk.

 

[Carl Erickson]

I hope carl erickson isnt your full name because im going to find your ass.
jk.

Be careful of the Dobermans....

 

[Mark [GenoDemoN]]

Why does having to pay for something make a difference on the users?

Our community is driven by the bot and making profits.

To the person with the ban, Im sorry that you got banned but there are extraneous stories about every single bot. Our bot has had the lowest ban rates from any rs bot before.


go decompile rs bot please and you will find that it clicks on the same x-y offset from the object location for every single click. Once jagex looks at your mouse logs you are easily banned. BCEL, once jagex uses thier bcel checks that were not found by the rsbot team you are a goner. rsbot has had a botnet in it in a previous version due to the updater they used, idirectly thier fault but who would elt that get into thier bot?

scar, doesnt solve alot of the advanced randoms, requires your mouse and uses very very simple color recgonition algorithms. scar has only lasted because of its now cult SRL following. It is a good bot when it doesnt miss somthing. There are no walking failsafes etc.

nexus, has soo many advanced features ill start with the most note worthy. Minimizeable color & reflection bot that doesnt edit the client code. Uses reflection which is impossible to be detected because of java security. Color methoods like heat cluster that take less than a millisecond to update. Heat cluster can have positive and negative weights by indiviual color band with individual r,g,b band adjustments, then forms clusters of pixels using the weights to determine a object shape size and center of heat. Reflection hooks! aryan web, a web visually of coords forming a web which makes it so scripts can use functions like walktonearestbank() and it can go there from almost anywhere(some dungeons arent mapped) or walk to a tile location. Separate random and bot threads.


Look @ rsbot's features its funnie how thier "new features" is stuff we've had for months or even over a year. dont forget nexus is week away from being 2 years old.


Pay stuff has always been more advanced and less detectable look at ALL past bots. Also thanks for ignoring my attack on your java friend.




I asked you to post on my forum so I can more readly reply. I do not visit this site often. If you really want to have a no advantage discussion lets goto an unrelated site and talk there.

 

[i are edible]

epic fail

 

[b4d2]

If people can get either something for free, or pay for something about as good, which are they going to choose? The end users don't care who originated the code or who stole it from whom. They only care how well it works.

I'm not a programmer, so I can't answer your technical details. Somebody else is welcome to. Since your bot is overpriced for its market (teenagers), it's likely that many more people use free alternatives than pay for Nexus. While your bot may have a lower ban rate, it probably doesn't have a lower ban rate per hour-of-use. Jagex undoubtedly has taken it apart and developed ways of detecting it. Programs have to follow rules, randomization notwithstanding, and Jagex will find patterns and figure out what to look for. There's no such thing as an "undetectable" bot.

My friend said that you're welcome to hire him, at $60 per hour, to code a bot interface from the ground up. He's not going to make one just to satisfy you or anybody else.

The bot and script programmers would do well to think about what has to happen before Jagex even LOOKS for macroing, and code your antiban to fit it. Jagex goes about macro-detection in two known ways, and those ways aren't hard to figure out.

Kid, how dumb are you? Im sorry if your not smart enough to set up a bank account or ask your mommmy or even figure out how to set up paypal. Maybe you should get a job i didnt know 5 dollars was so much money?? !!!! omfg?/1!!. Shut up, none of these crumy bots here match up to nexus pro, hell even lite whoops their ass. Come on, do you think the best gun( take anything for example!!) in the world would be free? No it would cost money!!!!!!

 

[Carl Erickson]

Kid, how dumb are you? Im sorry if your not smart enough to set up a bank account or ask your mommmy or even figure out how to set up paypal. Maybe you should get a job i didnt know 5 dollars was so much money?? !!!! omfg?/1!!. Shut up, none of these crumy bots here match up to nexus pro, hell even lite whoops their ass. Come on, do you think the best gun( take anything for example!!) in the world would be free? No it would cost money!!!!!!

b4d2: You should take some of your alleged riches and pay for a new keyboard. The number 1 key seems to be stuck on yours.

$5 is a lot of money for one week (which is all you get for $5 with Nexus/Ibot), when you consider that it costs $5 a month to play Runescape. Then there are the cost of the scripts, most of which don't work that well. The free ones work better, and that's not surprising,

Do you suppose that RSCA(M) could send over fewer people with a maturity level of under 10 years of age? At least Mike talks intelligently and doesn't point fingers and call names. While you're welcome to unleash your attack-kittens on us, about all it's doing is making RSCA(M) look worse than it already does.

haxirs: 6 posts, 5 in this thread.

b4d2: 4 posts, all in this thread.

Obviously shilling for RSCA(M) or trying to suck up for favors there.

Enough said.

I came to this thread to explain what tom jr didnt: the two events that trigger Jagex's macro-detection methodology. I have more of a tolerance for botters, and I actually see them as helping the community to a degree (i.e. lower prices on ores, runes, etc.). However, now that I see what kind of person I'd be helping (i.e. b4d2, haxirs), I'm not quite as inclined to bother.

 

RSCA is a total fail. The forums are horrible, not to mention their programs.

Oh god i knew this day was coming... the day that sythe thought of rsca as 'fail'. Thats an all-time low coming from a community that has built its market on scamming and re-selling scammed accounts.

Your banner says "Did someone say cheating?"
What cheating programs do you guys even have to offer here?

 

[haxirs]

@ Carl.

Why post is such as ignorant-user site?

Most of the people are ignorant, and think they are so 1337 when they are really not(Prime example would be you).


Post mean nothing.

 

[Mark [GenoDemoN]]

Right now our randomnization is weighted to the center of weight of an object much like a person. Not random with-in a box which all of the past bots have done.

Jagex actually has bought several auths from us. Proof? DMCA's based upon content only in the pro verision. Oh also if rsbot was soo cool and if its soo great how come jagex isnt staring up thier ass with a microscope like they do rscheata?

tom why do post counts count? My old account had hundreds of posts before it was compromized because a DB was compromize don another forum with a shared pw.

Please back-up your statements with facts. You are dodging all of my valid points on why other bots fail in comparasion to neXus yet you ignore or write it off because your ignorant in yet just a post before you typed as if you were knowledegable on the subject. You would make a great political canidate, I cannot as I always speak with facts backing it up.

 

[Carl Erickson]

@ Carl.

Why post is such as ignorant-user site?

Most of the people are ignorant, and think they are so 1337 when they are really not(Prime example would be you).


Post mean nothing.

Nobody's holding a gun to your head to post here, little boy. You can leave anytime, and nobody will miss your ass.

As for escaping detection, no bot maker goes about it the right way. Rsbot is closer to it than Nexus. Maybe I'll point Rsbot in the right direction, so they'll have it first.

Then we'll see if Nexus/Ibot copies it :laugh:

 

[haxirs]

@ Tom

I think you got it backwards buddy.

it's actually pretty hard for jagex to detect NeXuS with the right Java Security options...

@ Carl

Stop using circle logic. I am beginning to get a little bored from it.

And yeah no one is holding a gun to my head, I think the "Little boy" is you, hence you seem to misunderstand every word I say.

Why would NeXuS copy Rsbot anti-detection system if they are two completely different bots.

Again, stop talking shit you don't know about.

Anyways on the other side...and other post you have made..

You posted on Sythe so this does involve Sythe as a community, since you are both supposedly active members of it.

 

[b4d2]

Like all the others from RSCA, you only read what you want to and ignore the rest. It was mentioned that Jagex has likely bought access to Nexus/Ibot. I would be surprised if they hadn't.

If Jagex puts Nexus/Ibot under a figurative microscope, as you say, then that's one more reason not to purchase a subscription to it. It's that much more likely to be detected and banned. Jagex WILL find patterns. No matter how much work you put into making your bot undetectable, it cannot emulate a human being to the point of escaping detection. You can blow smoke all day and try to dazzle us with tech-speak, but no program can totaly emulate a human being.

And if, as you imply, RSBot isn't being analyzed, then that's one more reason to use that bot, since they won't be in as much danger of being spotted.

nothing is undectectable to jagex, even the little shit rs bot, so stop sucking the bots ass it sucks.