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That's not what the site said but I'll take your word for that. But that still shows no evidence to prove or disprove god Shredder

That is an example of the sort of alternative explanation that there might be for the "perfection" of the universe.

I am not trying to disprove God, I am trying to show those who use the argument from ignorance how that argument fails.
 
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Jεsse;4425010 said:
i doubt you have $10,000 cash or have even dealt with more than $1,000 ._.

i do trust you cheddar, just would like to motivate some priests onto getting themselves some new robes

Rich family, chief. If you do it, you'll get the money.
 
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I pussed out, it was lulz though.
 
Shredder, I'm under the assumption that this is the single most complex case you have/ever will delt with. I'm guessing your going into great amounts of money with anxiety to find out if all of which you've studied throughout your life is true or false. It would be a great topic to discover, but I still think it's impossible.

You act semi-like the character from Death Note.

I shall call you "L".
 
The 10 grand Shredder offers is peanuts compared to the amount of money you would get if you really proved the existance of a god.
 
Shredder, I'm under the assumption that this is the single most complex case you have/ever will delt with. I'm guessing your going into great amounts of money with anxiety to find out if all of which you've studied throughout your life is true or false. It would be a great topic to discover, but I still think it's impossible.

You act semi-like the character from Death Note.

I shall call you "L".

wat

I'm offering this money lazily, in a semi-interested "I wonder if anybody can offer a halfway-decent argument" sort of way. There is no anxiety. >_>

The 10 grand Shredder offers is peanuts compared to the amount of money you would get if you really proved the existance of a god.

Who would pay you more than what I offer?
 
there is no hardcore proof that god is real there has been remains which have said to been gods but have not been proven, truely the only way god can be real is if u believe in him. just like santa, the easter bunny, as in little kids they believe santa is real, if u shedder believe in god then he shall be real until proven that he is not, which will be never, so if u wanna believe he is real then he is and no one can prove he isnt, but if u believe hes not then he isnt and there is no way u can proven that he is

u basically choose ur side and believe it, as there is a impossible answer
 
Haha, the Vatican maybe?
Imagine how much followers they would get if you could prove that god is real?
Or how about other churches?

They already believe that God is real. From what I've heard, they have no interest in hard proof.

there is no hardcore proof that god is real there has been remains which have said to been gods but have not been proven, truely the only way god can be real is if u believe in him. just like santa, the easter bunny, as in little kids they believe santa is real, if u shedder believe in god then he shall be real until proven that he is not, which will be never, so if u wanna believe he is real then he is and no one can prove he isnt, but if u believe hes not then he isnt and there is no way u can proven that he is

u basically choose ur side and believe it, as there is a impossible answer

Well, if I believed in God, that wouldn't actually make him exist - I would just think that he existed.
 
Well, if I believed in God, that wouldn't actually make him exist - I would just think that he existed.

it wouldnt actually but u would believe he existed, as i said its just like a little kid u believe in it until its proven that there is not this certain person, in the case of god no proof of him being real/unreal has came up, so its ur choice to choose
 
No one can prove this. And i wont argue with shredder on this topic, its one of those topics where if i argue its gonna go back and fourth and no one will win and shredder will get his way.

Grow up shredder this topic was made in B.C its time new arguments come >.<

Like " Prove Jesus existed and ill pay you 10,000" Ill win that one. :)
 
Does this "God" have to be defined by "an external, intelligent deity that it is appropriate for us to worship"?

Because if it doesn't, I have an argument.
 
They already believe that God is real. From what I've heard, they have no interest in hard proof.

How would you know?
They believe and many christians are aware that they believe in something they are not sure of it's existance. I few christian friends said to me once: "Why else would it be called belief?"
If you provide solid proof, you can become filthy rich in no time.
What about scientists? They get huge amounts of money for researches they preformed, things like Nobelprizes etc. Don't you think you wouldn't get a prize or something for proving that there is a god?
 
Shredded do you think some atoms or some particles are so smart that they can rule or make a future to mankind? God is not a myth, if so why did we ever mentioned GOD(sciences). Why did we came up with GOD in the first place?And i dont think some1 can proof that god is true, only god can and he will 1 day. Will you pay him 10.000 then?​
 
It is said that the day that the end of the world will never be known. And once that day comes, no one will have a chance to claim God as their own God as an act of being scared into heaven.

It's by choice, if there is a God, the last time for proof will be too late unless your aloud to repent or w/e. Never really read in depth what the bible says, but enough to understand the gist of it.
 
No one can prove this. And i wont argue with shredder on this topic, its one of those topics where if i argue its gonna go back and fourth and no one will win and shredder will get his way.

Nobody can prove the existence of Santa Claus or the Flying Spaghetti Monster either way, also. Why are those beliefs not taken seriously, but belief in God is?

Albania said:
Grow up shredder this topic was made in B.C its time new arguments come >.<

I didn't ask you to read this thread. Don't post if you don't like it.

Albania said:
Like " Prove Jesus existed and ill pay you 10,000" Ill win that one. :)

That offer is not going to be put on the table.

Does this "God" have to be defined by "an external, intelligent deity that it is appropriate for us to worship"?

Because if it doesn't, I have an argument.

Yes, that is the definition of God. I put that rule in to prevent people from pulling a sneaky trick.

How would you know?

I've spoken to quite a few high-level apologetics.

damien0124 said:
They believe and many christians are aware that they believe in something they are not sure of it's existance. I few christian friends said to me once: "Why else would it be called belief?"

Well there are two types of belief: Rational and irrational. Theirs, when unjustified by the evidence, is irrational.

Damien0124 said:
If you provide solid proof, you can become filthy rich in no time.
What about scientists? They get huge amounts of money for researches they preformed, things like Nobelprizes etc. Don't you think you wouldn't get a prize or something for proving that there is a god?

The money would have to come from somewhere, and I am unaware of any fund that provides for such a proof.

Shredded do you think some atoms or some particles are so smart that they can rule or make a future to mankind? God is not a myth, if so why did we ever mentioned GOD(sciences). Why did we came up with GOD in the first place?And i dont think some1 can proof that god is true, only god can and he will 1 day. Will you pay him 10.000 then?

I don't think you understand evolutionary theory, at all.

Your implication is that conceiving of something makes it exist in reality - what about Zeus? Or fairies? Do they exist because "well we came up with it, why would we do that if it wasn't real"?
 
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