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why is it that people say they are the best on the site on their GFX shop ?? and when i go inside i see they are still beginners with photoshop ..

I'm not saying this because i think I'm the best or anything like that,cause I'm not xD
but this is causing me getting less people asking for sigs on my shop..

i don't know if this is the right place to post this, but people gotta stop giving others wrong informations... seriously
 
that's what i mean "they think" .. how can know they are the best by thinking they are ?? ..
 
Thinking you're the best gives you the mindset that you ARE the best. Let's put it this way: If I think I can do it, I probably will be able to do it. If I think I am something, I probably am something.
 
yea you can probably do it, but it doesn't make you the best in what you do ..
in my opinion, if you don't know you're the best at something you don't have the right to say you are,
 
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What annoys me even further is people labeling themselves as "Professional Graphic Artists", where in reality their GFX skills are primitive and rudimentary.
Unless you make a SOLID LIVING off creating and designing graphic material, then you are not professional.
 
Exactly. People are selling signatures for $5-10 (note: mine used to be $1-2 when my shop was open), and claiming it's "professional". This says "I'm possibly the best GFX artist on the site". His name is like phenoMM or something. No offence to him, but his are no way near the best. I want to edit their thread and remove that, but I think that wouldn't be fair.
 
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Exactly. People are selling signatures for $5-10 (note: mine used to be $1-2 when my shop was open), and claiming it's "professional". This says "I'm possibly the best GFX artist on the site". His name is like phenoMM or something. No offence to him, but his are no way near the best. I want to edit their thread and remove that, but I think that wouldn't be fair.
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No that wouldn't be fair.
I actually do make somewhat of a living making graphics. I've taken graphics classes and make designs at 99designs.com. The Logos there sell for 200+ and are in contest fashion, I've won about 10 contests now and I'm making good money. Making Sigs on this site is just an offthing for me, you know, giving back to the community.
And there is no way to determine who's sigs are "THE BEST LOL" because people look at art differently and all have different viewpoints. The only reason I say I'm professional and the best is for advertisement and trying to get customers to choose me over others. Its simple marketing.

And grats on GFX mod.
 
phenoMMM said:
No that wouldn't be fair.
I actually do make somewhat of a living making graphics. I've taken graphics classes and make designs at 99designs.com. The Logos there sell for 200+ and are in contest fashion, I've won about 10 contests now and I'm making good money. Making Sigs on this site is just an offthing for me, you know, giving back to the community.
And there is no way to determine who's sigs are "THE BEST LOL" because people look at art differently and all have different viewpoints. The only reason I say I'm professional and the best is for advertisement and trying to get customers to choose me over others. Its simple marketing.

And grats on GFX mod.
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I've been commissioned for book covers, posters, websites, photography and i've made probably something near $1500 (the majority of which was for photography in remote areas of central asia which was paid for by an embassy in my country) and i'm not nearly even moderate by near-objective classing.

Just because you're able to get your skills out there makes you just about as professional as the next person, who knows how but does nothing.

So you're right, it's nothing more than simple marketing.
 
T R 1 B A L said:
I've been commissioned for book covers, posters, websites, photography and i've made probably something near $1500 (the majority of which was for photography in remote areas of central asia which was paid for by an embassy in my country) and i'm not nearly even moderate by near-objective classing.

Just because you're able to get your skills out there makes you just about as professional as the next person, who knows how but does nothing.

So you're right, it's nothing more than simple marketing.
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Trust me, sigs are no way of an indicator of skill, its just a manipulation of various effects to create a "COOL" look. The real skill comes from creativity in logos, website design, and other things that companies pay for. The only way a sig can maybe help you is helping with depth of field, placement, and random cool things you can do in PS.
I too have also had jobs for posters, websites and photography. This month I made $300+ from all those together, mostly all from independent companies in Charlotte, NC.
 
I'm the best on the site.
 
T R 1 B A L said:
QFT.

TDD i remember you raging at me on IRC a few years ago for saying WoW is gay :3
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No? I don't like world of warcraft in any way shape or form nor ever have...
 
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No me I am the best.

No I kid, I suck now. I used to be alright when I was a GFX mod but now I suck again.
 
TDD said:
No? I don't like world of warcraft in any way shape or form nor ever have...
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It was for my lack of appreciation of the time and effort that went into making the game, or something of the sort,

OR i got trolled,

OR it was Faskist/Unknown.
 
Because most here are kids with less than a year's worth of experience. Anyone who is attracted by "PROFESSIONAL WORK" needs a mental check, turns out 95% of the time that thread is full of novice work.
Agreed with statement above, you are only "professional" if you are actually doing paid work frequently.
 
Although the professional artwork point in this thread IS really annoying to me as well, I think people put "the best" because it's nothing more than good business. Just like a real life company would put "the closest shave you'll ever have" or "the more refreshing drink EVAAAAAA", it's just how people draw others in. When people see "THE BEST SIGS EVER" they're drawn in, but when they see that they aren't the best, often times people want to throw out an order just to see what they can really do... or they just don't care enough that they aren't really the greatest.

Either way, unlike labeling yourself as professional, saying "I'm the best" is subjective, and most may be convinced that they are the best graphics artist on this site. Just like some think they're the smartest, the most gangster, or the fattest troll.
 
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