Cigarettes

[miyamiya]

If this is what you believe, then I shall concede

 

[iToke_Herb]

Honestly, I think the long term effect of life-shortening is good. People in America usually lose their worth by age 55-65 when they retire. After that they are put into social security and medicare draining money into a flawed social system.

If people lose around 20 years of their expected life and die at around age 60, they potentially have lived 5 years of sedentary life which is more than enough to be done with mundane lifestyle and have been able to smoke which have really positive short-term effects which the smut campaigners against tobacco don't want you to see such as:
- increased metabolism
- increased heart rate
- increased body temperate
- release of endorphins
- "nicotine high" which lightens your head and eases stress

Now at the "risk" of losing the end of your life, where you become old, weary, and nonconstructive to society you get to smoke cigarettes which make your earlier years a little easier.

You gotta do your own research when trying to formulate an opinion, listening to the Jewish monopolized liberal media is just going to throw your brain deeper into their gutter of manipulation and control.

 

[Rising]

I've tried them, didn't like them. I don't smoke.

I guess because i know most of the shit thats in them.. =/

 

[The Fat Controller]

But it is inflated?

If you start smoking in your teens, there is a good chance you'll still be alive in your 60s. This is not a serious health risk. It has long term effects that come to light when you are older, but in the short and middle term there are no sideeffects.

In this respect it is not very different to habitually overeating.

Do you disagree?

Yeah.

In the short and middle term there are side effects. There are visible side effects like how physically unfit the smoker usually becomes. Then there are also conditions like bronchitis.

If smoking and obesity are relatively "inconsequential" habits when they shave around 10-18% of your life expectancy away, what might a really bad habit be?

 

[Rising]

Yeah.

In the short and middle term there are side effects. There are visible side effects like how physically unfit the smoker usually becomes. Then there are also conditions like bronchitis.

If smoking and obesity are relatively "inconsequential" habits when they shave around 10-18% of your life expectancy away, what might a really bad habit be?

I agree with this guy.

I have lots of friends who have a good body, not fat. But smoke and you can see they get so tired running short distances. =/

 

Yeah.

In the short and middle term there are side effects. There are visible side effects like how physically unfit the smoker usually becomes. Then there are also conditions like bronchitis.

Well ok, I've known some fairly healthy smokers.

The obesity correlation seems to be more a matter of personality type and other personal choices. In fact, as I recall, smoking decreases appetite.

If smoking and obesity are relatively "inconsequential" habits when they shave around 10-18% of your life expectancy away, what might a really bad habit be?

I can think of a few off the top of my head:
1. Binge drinking (very common where I live.) - noticeable and significant braindamage.
2. Hard drugs: heroin, crack cocaine, meth, speed, other street drugs cut with crap. - danger of overdose and dirty needles, bad stuff, wrong potency, and so on.
3. Speeding - very dangerous, especially on poorly maintained government roads. - Road toll.
4. Extreme sports - skiing, basejumping, skateboarding to an extent, others.
5. Fighting or boxing or head injury prone sports. - Same as binge drinking.

Any habit which actively risks the continuation of your life in the short-term, I would class as dangerous. Also any habit which significantly damages your capacity to live in the near or middle term is also dangerous.

Again, I simply don't think that smoking falls into this category. Last I checked it takes fully 40 or 50 years for significant health impacts to actively manifest as a consequence of smoking.

 

[Sega]

I havn't ever had a cigqret and tbh I don't plane to.

 

[Litterboxed]

alot of people at my school smoke cigarettes. I ask them all the time how it makes them feel because my friend wants to go smoke one after every block of class. I try to understand how they can but I cant imagine being addicted to something and not being able to stop.

 

I havn't ever had a cigqret and tbh I don't plane to.

Plane is verb of the week!

Brb while I plane on some snakes.

 

[Ganzta-Freak]

Perhaps you are what they call a 'social smoker' that only smokes on nights out?

Yes, that's what I do. I don't wanna spend money and life on cigarettes unless I'm at a party. I mean, you only live once, so why not just do stuff? "You only live once" does not apply to smoking cigarettes every day and getting addicted, though. That's not cool. Only at nights out or if my friend asks if I want one, and I feel like it.
I'm lucky that my friends still like me even if I don't feel like taking a cigarette, unlike some other peoples friends might do.

 

[lacuna]

If you really think about it.
The first time you smoke, nothing happens.
So these days kids are only smoking to look cool, then they get hooked.
I've been through it, done it all.

 

[Tgump]

Plane is verb of the week!

Brb while I plane on some snakes.

You forgot to state that you've had it with these motherfucking planes on this motherfucking snake.

 

You forgot to state that you've had it with these motherfucking planes on this motherfucking snake.

Ahaha Touché.

 

[.Logan.]

Proud too say, I've never smoked and i'm not planning on starting. Nice topic.

 

[Mikewashere8]

Ok so some of you may justify your reasons for starting say it was a 'phase' during your teenage years and then you got addicted but we all know addiction is not as black and white as that. You dont get addicted that suddenly you must have kept on going to such an extent despite full-heartedly knowing the long term effects and what not.

Or were you just simply ignorant and unaware of the eternal line of side effects that come tumbling down with starting such a habit? maybe for many others of you it might've be the social status that comes along with puffing on such a vile thing. Perhaps you are what they call a 'social smoker' that only smokes on nights out?

Well evidently, im not very good at articulating what I mean, but I think you get the jist of it.

So what one was it? (why did you start in the first place?)
How old were you when you started?
Any regrets?

I started at 13. It was around me at all times. The majority of my family smoked and I didn't understand it. I smoked my first cigarette and enjoyed everything about it. The taste, the burn and getting lightheaded. Then I smoked more, Stopped getting lightheaded got addicted and still haven't stopped. I underestimated how easy it is to get addicted to nicotine.

When you can stop you don't want to and when you want to stop you can't.

 

[Eliza]

2. Hard drugs: heroin, crack cocaine, meth, speed, other street drugs cut with crap. - danger of overdose and dirty needles, bad stuff, wrong potency, and so on.

As dangerous as they indeed are... i've known many people who have used average 25-30 years... some even more. One lady i know used ever since she was 13 and is 55 now and in good health aside from having Hep-C.

Yes the dangers of dirty needles but thats people who live on the streets. While i used...i always had clean needles and had a trusted source. Everytime a new batch would come id always test slow amounts first.

Then again most drug users want to die...in my opinion.

Smoke is harmful yes but life is short anyway... just enjoy it while its there. What is the point of living until you are 80 or 90 and have someone having to change you, help you piss, wipe your ass.

A friend of mine who is a nurse said when the old patients shit their bed...the way they clean him is they sticktheir finger up his ass to scoop it and make sure its all out.

Thats effin gross id rather die than be like that.

 

[Comprensión Mutua]

I don't think smoking really is an ethical concern. It's more of a personal choice, much as the color of one's walls is. Whilst, personally, I do not smoke, as I find the smell repugnant and am asthmatic, it is a personal concern that should not be regulated by external bodies, namely the government.

 

[Freely Drawn]

No, I've tried it a few times and don't see why people enjoy them.

 

[wtp]

You've never tried one. Maybe people do it because it's enjoyable. You exaggerated all the disadvantages. The health books you read at school tend to leave out the advantages of smoking. Don't believe everything you see.

 

A friend of mine who is a nurse said when the old patients shit their bed...the way they clean him is they sticktheir finger up his ass to scoop it and make sure its all out.

Thats effin gross id rather die than be like that.

Purely on the topic of reasons to preserve health:

We are on the edge of a whole new paradigm of medicine. It may well be the case that by the time you reach middle life, middle life will stretch to 80 or 100 years long. Just as previously middle-life was about 10 years and now it is ~40.

You don't know what your actual life expectancy is, nor what state you'll be in when you get there.

To put it bluntly, wouldn't it suck to have irreversible brain-damage at the same moment everyone else is getting 160 year life extension therapy?

This is why I don't drink or smoke; In my mind its the same as having personal savings. If you are inclined to hold reserves for marginally probable eventualities, then you are so inclined. If you are not, then you are not. Personal preference.