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Abortion?

Anti-Virus said:
I support something that's legally right in most places.
But still think there's something wrong with it, because I'm a moral being.
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Let me explain:

I am going to assume that you believe that life begins at conception. Ok. Fine.

I am also going to assume that you believe that a fetus has an inherent right to life, just as a 20 year old man might. Ok. Fine.

If anybody has a right to life, then violating that right is murder. Presumably, you would not murder a 20 year old man under any circumstances - so why would you murder the fetus?
 
bennytheberry said:
It's human and deserves just as much rights as anything else. Cool.
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I don't think that being human implies rights - or does a skin culture get rights?

What specifically gives it rights?
 
“I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.” - Ronald Reagan
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Well yeah, no shit. Everybody that is for or against anything has obviously already been born.
 
Anti-Virus said:
Because if someone got raped, I really don't think they would want to keep the kid.

So if someone got "forced" to get pregnant, I think it's right, I'm more for abortion, than against, but I've already said that earlier on.

Teen pregnancy, because the child and the teen would get a really rough future, and I doubt there would be a lot of happiness in it, surely there could be, but it would be really hard for her to finish her education, and normally "teen love" normally don't last forever, so "he - the father" would of probably of gone somewhere else.
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so your saying because a kid has sexual intercourse and ends up pregnant that she should be able to kill the baby because of her wrong choice? i dont believe its the babys fault in my mind, or even if a girl is raped, that doesnt mean its the babys fault.

Anti-Virus said:
You can abort up to 13-14 weeks.


I don't care if you would kill someone mentally retarded just because their brain doesn't function properly.
But it would be the same thing.
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you think we should be able to kill mentally retarded people? take an animal for example, because there brain functions nothing like ours, and in a very unintellegent state compared to homosapians, do you think we should be able to torture animals? if your uncle became brain dead do you feel i have a right to go kill him? or of course torture because his brain doesn't function properly.

Anti-Virus said:
Actually, instead of seeing you criticising other peoples opinion, I would like to see yours, without quoting or pointing out something in other posts.

Like if you got the question :
What do you think of Abortion?


I myself, I have my for and against about abortion.
If you're going to abort, do it as soon as possible, waiting almost 3 months, that's when I consider it extremely wrong.

I think "young" people should have the right to abort, because of their future (not saying what they are doing is right.).
Older people, should know what they are doing, and should be prepared for the worse.
If it was rape, well, I would defiantly see abortion as an option.

I'm mainly for it, but a post on the first page, kind of annoyed me..


THAT is what I see as EXTREMELY WRONG!
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how is him being objective to peoples posts wrong? obviously hes finding flaws in your point of views and you dont like that because you cant just post an ignorant response to this thread because you know you will now need some sort of details to use as a backbone to support your views, i think shreddar being objective is a great thing, its pointing out the the people only viewing not posting that you and some of these other people are just relying on the way you where taught in your household and not your own personal formed views.
 
DropKick Murphys said:
Well yeah, no shit. Everybody that is for or against anything has obviously already been born.
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obviously you are closed minded and dont understand the point of what ronald reagan meant, he meant maybe they should think they wouldnt be here if they had been aborted, so learn to think that statements dont always mean as you think they do.
 
estro, do you support abortion for rape/incest victims?
 
that doesnt mean its the babys fault.
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No, it doesn't. But the "baby" is just a lump of flesh with no qualities that makes it a person - that is, deserving of rights. No more a person than, say, a braindead uncle.

There is no moral reason to object to a woman having an abortion if she thinks it is in her own best interests.
 
I Agree 100% No Doubt.

Who are you to tell the person to keep that baby, It's their choice.
 
tj, i do not support abortion in any case, any at all,

Jordan, you say its there choices? where do you see that the father of the baby has a choice? by giving the women the right to abort there baby your taking away a right that the man has,
 
The man does not have to carry the baby for 9 months.
 
does that mean if me and my friend build a car together, yet my friend has to go and get it inspected and take care of it at his house yet i drive it, does that make it not mine at all because it was formed with the help of me as a baby is formed with the sperm of a man and the eggs of a women? yes the women carries the baby but that doesnt make it all hers, it is still part of the man, because a bank holds my money does that mean they should be able to keep fractions of it overtime until it becomes all theirs? just because the women carries it for 9months doesnt mean it is solely hers, thats like saying anything that is made between 2 people in the world and one has the responsibillity to watch over it, than becomes solely theres? no it does not, if it was solely the womens than why does the blood type of the baby match with the fathers not the mothers,
 
I do not support this unless the mother is too young to manager her life and the life of another. A 16 Year old girl can't go to school and take care of a baby.
I think it is wrong if the woman is finished school and has time to look after herself and the baby.
 
xestrox said:
does that mean if me and my friend build a car together, yet my friend has to go and get it inspected and take care of it at his house yet i drive it, does that make it not mine at all because it was formed with the help of me as a baby is formed with the sperm of a man and the eggs of a women? yes the women carries the baby but that doesnt make it all hers, it is still part of the man, because a bank holds my money does that mean they should be able to keep fractions of it overtime until it becomes all theirs? just because the women carries it for 9months doesnt mean it is solely hers, thats like saying anything that is made between 2 people in the world and one has the responsibillity to watch over it, than becomes solely theres? no it does not, if it was solely the womens than why does the blood type of the baby match with the fathers not the mothers,
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What i am saying is that since the mother carries the baby, it has more say, and should.
 
xestrox said:
so your saying because a kid has sexual intercourse and ends up pregnant that she should be able to kill the baby because of her wrong choice? i dont believe its the babys fault in my mind, or even if a girl is raped, that doesnt mean its the babys fault.
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Why does the fetus get rights?

xestrox said:
why does the blood type of the baby match with the fathers not the mothers,
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My blood type is A positive, and so is my mother's. My father's is O.

xestrox said:
I do not support this unless the mother is too young to manager her life and the life of another. A 16 Year old girl can't go to school and take care of a baby.
I think it is wrong if the woman is finished school and has time to look after herself and the baby.
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If abortion is murder, why do you condone it under some circumstances?
 
Shredderbeam said:
If abortion is murder, why do you condone it under some circumstances?
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This is how all people against abortion usually work, they are against it if it is there fault, but incest and rape abortions are alright.

Which totally criticizes there whole beliefs.
 
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bennytheberry said:
I’ve noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born.

Idiot.
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The thing is, I don't care about the unborn. That's the thing about pro-abortionists usually, they don't want the child, and abortion is the easiest answer. I'd pay good money to get rid of a child I don't want, to be honest.

That quote by Ronald Reagen doesn't influence me in the slightest.

By the way, I'm slightly biased in the fact that I hate young children, and even a lot of adolescents at my age. Don't bring in "what-if" arguments, as they have no sway in a debate.
 
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