Abortion?

[FlubbyWubs]

Oh bama, that is the 1 thing I don't agree on. Age means nothing. Jay, saying 'she did' is bull shit on a stick. What does that mean, she did, if she did she obviously thought she was responsible enough so have sex, so she should be responsible enough to take care of the outcome. If she wasn't prepared to take care of a child she shouldn't have sex, or make damn sure that shes protected

 

[Jay_0x]

Well, if your 15-17 you have to go to school. If your older all you have to do is work. School is much more time consuming that working. If you work 9-5 thats 8 hours. If you go to school its 8-3 thats 7 hours then you have to do homework and study and all the other stuff.

In some jobs you have to work longer; a teacher would have to mark tests etc.

Oh bama, that is the 1 thing I don't agree on. Age means nothing. Jay, saying 'she did' is bull shit on a stick. What does that mean, she did, if she did she obviously thought she was responsible enough so have sex, so she should be responsible enough to take care of the outcome. If she wasn't prepared to take care of a child she shouldn't have sex, or make damn sure that shes protected

So you're saying you MUST be prepared to take care of a child before you can have sex?

Maybe we aren't just talking about sex though, What happens if a woman is raped? Is abortion right then?

 

[Shredderbeam]

You should because if people are pro abortion, and they will abort if they happen to get pregnant, why go threw it all. Just save yourself the time and use a condom to prevent it from ever happening..

Maybe I will. It's my prerogative.

Im really not understanding this one lol..

You said that if the girl gets pregnant, then "tough shit". Why should this be the case?

No you can't. But I would believe that it starts at conception... after all this is when the beginning truly is

You believe it? Fantastic.

When you go into the world and try to argue that something should be illegal, you're going to need proper justification.

Then she should have never gotten pregnant in the first place...

Her prerogative.

 

[FlubbyWubs]

In some jobs you have to work longer; a teacher would have to mark tests etc.




So you're saying you MUST be prepared to take care of a child before you can have sex?

Maybe we aren't just talking about sex though, What happens if a woman is raped? Is abortion right then?

Well the case of rape is different. Then I say it is justified, but that was never brought up.. If your raped, yes abort. but if you had sex, knowing that theres a possibility that you will get pregnant, then you should have to take responsibilities for your actions..

 

[Shredderbeam]

Well the case of rape is different. Then I say it is justified, but that was never brought up.. If your raped, yes abort. but if you had sex, knowing that theres a possibility that you will get pregnant, then you should have to take responsibilities for your actions..

If a fetus is a human life that deserves rights, how can you justify killing it in the case of rape?

 

[FlubbyWubs]

If a fetus is a human life that deserves rights, how can you justify killing it in the case of rape?

My argument states that if the woman has sex consensually, and gets pregnant, knowing she COULD get pregnant then there is no excuse. But, in the case of rape, it is obviously un-consensual. Meaning the woman never wanted the fetus. If she had no say in the conception she should be able to choose what she wants. If she did have a say, and accepted, had sex and got pregnant, thats her choice and she shouldn't be able to abort

 

[Shredderbeam]

My argument states that if the woman has sex consensually, and gets pregnant, knowing she COULD get pregnant then there is no excuse. But, in the case of rape, it is obviously un-consensual. Meaning the woman never wanted the fetus. If she had no say in the conception she should be able to choose what she wants. If she did have a say, and accepted, had sex and got pregnant, thats her choice and she shouldn't be able to abort

Well you're saying that a fetus has all the rights of a human being - except that it can be killed in cases of rape. Why? If it has all the rights of a human being, then killing it is unacceptable in all circumstances, always.

 

[FlubbyWubs]

This is true. However the woman should have the right to choose is she didn't consent to it. What if you were white and jewish, and got raped by a Muslim? I sure as hell would not want that baby. However if I was white and jewish and consensually had sex with the muslim then she obviously wanted to have sex, and knew that there's always that possibility. If she knew there's a possibility there's no excuse. You go to court and they ask why do you want to abort, you had consensual sex, correct.. you would say 'yes'.. and their would be no argument. However if you got raped you could always argue 'well its a different religion/race, and it wasn't consensual - I never wanted it' You get what Im saying?

 

[Shredderbeam]

This is true. However the woman should have the right to choose is she didn't consent to it. What if you were white and jewish, and got raped by a Muslim? I sure as hell would not want that baby.

But according to you, it is deserving of human rights. You support murder in cases of rape for personal convenience?

Your position is incoherent. Please take some time to rationally analyze it.

 

[FlubbyWubs]

Im enjoying this debate. Also, I have to think of an answer. You stumped me, lol. Add me on MSN. I already added you

 

[RutuliukaS]

I'm for abortion ! Do you really want your child to ruin her life at age of 13 ? I think not !

Also - embrions or w/e they called are now in high class face creams , look it up in google , i'm serious

 

[Feren Silver]

I have to disagree. Mainly because it's like killing a person. Then at times, I have to agree because the baby would have a better life if it's not born. If the mother doesn't want the baby.

Being dead is better than being alive at all? I find it hard to agree with that point, but sure I think that women should have the choice because as previously stated, it's part of the woman's body.

 

[xestrox]

im against it, many reasons, 1 such as this: lets say you are a 21 year old man and you and your girl friend engage in sexual intercourse, she gest pregnant, you all buy stuff for the baby, you all are planning on having it, than you get into an arguement with her, she goes and aborts the baby, meaning by giving women the right to abort (in my opinion kill) a baby you men are taking away one of your rights..

Thanks and Regards,

Miranda

 

[xestrox]

the babys blood type is as of the man, making it formed from part of the man also, and without the man can the baby be produced, if you make a strawberry banana shake just because you let the banana set in the ice cream longer before placing the strawberry in and mixing it that doesnt mean its solely a banana shake does it.?.

 

[Grave]

I personally think it should be allowed by choice. If the mother is going to be a bad mother, then she should be able to abort the child before making the child's life worse.

 

[Grave]

im against it, many reasons, 1 such as this: lets say you are a 21 year old man and you and your girl friend engage in sexual intercourse, she gest pregnant, you all buy stuff for the baby, you all are planning on having it, than you get into an arguement with her, she goes and aborts the baby, meaning by giving women the right to abort (in my opinion kill) a baby you men are taking away one of your rights..

Thanks and Regards,

Miranda

They should make it to where both the father and the mother have to agree.

 

[xestrox]

if they did make it so both had to mutually agree, pregnant women would claim to have been raped so that they could abort there childs.

 

[Shredderbeam]

im against it, many reasons, 1 such as this: lets say you are a 21 year old man and you and your girl friend engage in sexual intercourse, she gest pregnant, you all buy stuff for the baby, you all are planning on having it, than you get into an arguement with her, she goes and aborts the baby, meaning by giving women the right to abort (in my opinion kill) a baby you men are taking away one of your rights..

Thanks and Regards,

Miranda

If you're at the stage where you're buying stuff for the baby, the woman will probably not abort it.

In any case, why does a fetus receive rights?

They should make it to where both the father and the mother have to agree.

The fetus resides in the mother's body. Why does the father have a say?

 

[madhacker14]

same thing as killing a real person, just not fully developed yet,
People just dont see it tho, but its murder.
Disagree

 

[Shredderbeam]

same thing as killing a real person, just not fully developed yet,
People just dont see it tho, but its murder.
Disagree

I don't see how it's a real person.