Abortion?

[pk k0nka]

Why excluding life support? If they don't have lungs, they're on life support, but they still have rights, then lungs clearly aren't necessary for gaining rights.

There is a difference between human life and human life with rights. A dismembered body is clearly human, but does not have any rights.

You've got me. I have nothing. You are by far the smartest person I've come across on these forums, props to you.

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=438322 - Do you know anything about this?

 

[ironblade87]

There is a difference between human life and human life with rights. A dismembered body is clearly human, but does not have any rights.

And how would one know when to give a human rights or not?

 

[Sharp Tooth]

id say when the babys born

 

[TheMasterMind]

Everybody, unborn or not has a right to live

 

[pk k0nka]

id say when the babys born

What makes you say that? Please go into depth? Don't just post one line for a post count.

Everybody, unborn or not has a right to live

A tiny little fetus, with no human body shapes or organs also has a right to live? What about cases of rape? Does the baby HAVE to live then?

 

[TheMasterMind]

What makes you say that? Please go into depth? Don't just post one line for a post count.



A tiny little fetus, with no human body shapes or organs also has a right to live? What about cases of rape? Does the baby HAVE to live then?

You dont have to KEEP the baby you could put it up for adoption. would you rather do that or the kill someone who could have invented the cure for cancer? Exactly

 

[Jason_x]

You dont have to KEEP the baby you could put it up for adoption. would you rather do that or the kill someone who could have invented the cure for cancer? Exactly

But see there is a flaw in your logic there.
The kid could grow up to be the person to cure cancer but if put up for adoption there is like a 50% chance they wont be adopted, although in the form of a fetus the stem cells produced could be used to cure alot of things.

 

[The Riddler]

i absoloutly dissagree its there own folt for having it and they shouldn't kill that poor growing baby

 

[TheMasterMind]

But see there is a flaw in your logic there.
The kid could grow up to be the person to cure cancer but if put up for adoption there is like a 50% chance they wont be adopted, although in the form of a fetus the stem cells produced could be used to cure alot of things.

So if they dotn get adopted. scholarships? heard about studying? About the stem cell thing. thats against god, its fine if your an atheist but im not. so whatever

 

[Jason_x]

So if they dotn get adopted. scholarships? heard about studying? About the stem cell thing. thats against god, its fine if your an atheist but im not. so whatever

I didnt bring a question of religion into this though I am saying that stem cells could help more than whats lost like I was whats one life for a million?
and second I meant what if they dont go to school? what if one grows up and becomes a bank robber or a gang member then where did that go down the drain.
All I am trying to say is that an unwanted baby might not be wanted by anyone and it is complete right to the birth mother on whether or not to keep it.

 

[Swan]

i absoloutly dissagree its there own folt for having it and they shouldn't kill that poor growing baby

What if the couple just want some "fun"? It is their fault for doing such things, but they didn't intend it.

And how is it the woman's fault for being raped? And how does rape change the circumstances? So many people have said "No, abortion is wrong. Well, unless the woman is raped, that's a different story." How is the woman being raped changing anything apart from the father?

So if they dotn get adopted. scholarships? heard about studying? About the stem cell thing. thats against god, its fine if your an atheist but im not. so whatever

Against God? Excuse me? God is the single concept that has held people back century after century. What of the brilliant minds branded as heretics, and either hung or burnt at the stake? What of Galileo, who discovered the Earth revolved around the sun? He was trialed for herecy, for what we now consider scientific fact.

How is stem-cell research against this "God" you speak of? Why is it forbidden? Have you asked yourself what it means to you and not to your church?

You dont have to KEEP the baby you could put it up for adoption. would you rather do that or the kill someone who could have invented the cure for cancer? Exactly

I wonder. There are already people working on cancer research, and the chances of a baby put up for adoption becoming a brilliant mind are very slim. I would rather give away the fetus to stem-cell research. It would go further.

i disagree.

if you dont want a baby use a condom or that sort of thing there hundreds of ways to stop conceving a baby

None of these methods are foolproof. How is having an abortion different from using pregnancy prevention? I find both to be very, very similar. What of the millions of sperm cells that could make potential fetuses, for example.

if a woman is raped then i suppose its a different matter but if your just having sex for the fun of it just use a condom >.>

Why is it a different matter? How does this change anything apart from the father? You either support abortion or you don't. Please make up your mind regarding the matter. If you can't make up your mind, then kindly leave this debate until you can.

 

[pk k0nka]

So if they dotn get adopted. scholarships? heard about studying? About the stem cell thing. thats against god, its fine if your an atheist but im not. so whatever

Why is it against god? So your saying... Christians aren't allowed to abort but Atheist's are? That's not very logical.

 

[Shredderbeam]

You've got me. I have nothing. You are by far the smartest person I've come across on these forums, props to you.

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=438322 - Do you know anything about this?

Well cheers.

And how would one know when to give a human rights or not?

That's what I'm trying to find out.

Everybody, unborn or not has a right to live

Why?

would you rather do that or the kill someone who could have invented the cure for cancer?

Your point is invalid. Possible future good or bad deeds have no bearing on their right to life.

they shouldn't kill that poor growing baby

I'm going to assume it's because you believe that the baby has the right to life.

Why does it? What gives anything the right to life?

About the stem cell thing. thats against god, its fine if your an atheist but im not. so whatever

Do you know what God wants?

 

[Rawr]

I think it's the womans choice, we should not have to tell her she can or cannot control her body.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I think it's the womans choice, we should not have to tell her she can or cannot control her body.

It's not an issue of control over her body, though - it's an issue of directly killing something which may or may not be human.

 

[xx mdv xx]

Yes, you should respect life because that person in your stomach could be something good one day and imagine if you were aborted, you wouldn't have your life today and would not have been able to experience life on Earth, which is not fair to the child who gets aborted.

 

[Swan]

Yes, you should respect life because that person in your stomach could be something good one day and imagine if you were aborted, you wouldn't have your life today and would not have been able to experience life on Earth, which is not fair to the child who gets aborted.

It wouldn't know. It would be dead. What's the problem?

 

[xx mdv xx]

It wouldn't know. It would be dead. What's the problem?

It can't explore life on Earth, which is what I said in my previous post.

 

[TJ]

It can't explore life on Earth, which is what I said in my previous post.

What he is saying that it wouldn't miss out on anything.

You can't miss something you never tried.

 

[Swan]

It can't explore life on Earth, which is what I said in my previous post.

It wouldn't know. It would be dead. What's the problem again?