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[Raremiahh]

So I'm reporting: Storm Client/Jim
ID: 202409114880573440
Discord Username: jim#6969
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Buracc/burak/Jim storm for scamming 500+ EUR
That I bought hundreds of euros of gold and scrips/access to the Storm client.
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Then the server goes down for an update. No big deal, I will play normal. Get flooded with 6-8 different discord servers which I join the interesting looking ones like hacking or GP/services.
I go to bed hoping to be able to bot when I wake up, but I find that Storm client is gone from discord, no messages, nothing. I try to log in and the site redirects me to a 404 page, then I ask a friend to verify if I'm in the discord, and that's how I find out.
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They constantly bully you for not being on line 24/7 and are admittedly better at the internet than I am, I'm a college student that just is wanting to bot and I chose the wrong service apparently.

Threatening violence and doxing:
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Look, I know I may be an idiot after the brain injury and slow but I dont deserve to be treated like this and have my money taken from me.

My "apology" even though I deserve an apology for all the abuse and stolen money from me.
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The reason I'm banned is due to my ACCEPTING AN INVITE TO ANOTHER SERVER

I highly recommend any other scripting/botting service even if their products are decent, dealing with these people was horrible for my or anyone's mental health. I wish I chose Squire or something jfc what a nightmare

More people backing me up:
Edited for their safety

 

[blogan]

Replying to this on behalf of Storm, as I'm Staff (670893921567768586)

Yes, you are a paying user; just like members of cracking discords have been in the past.
We have a strict 0 tolerance policy outlined in our TOS greeted when joining the server, and when buying plugins. You must accept it at least once for every plugin purchase (This is a checkbox that you agree to the TOS).

TOS can be found here:
Storm Store

You were banned for joining, and further applying for a discord server that is specifically for cracking plugins and clients.

There is no ignorance claim to be made, you literally applied to be a part of a cracking server that is strictly against our rules.

You are responsible for your own servers, and what you join. It is not our fault that you may have accidentally joined a server you didn't know about. But you didn't stop there, you applied for it after joining it.

There is no leeway to be given otherwise crackers would abuse our leniency.

Jim will reply to this thread when he's available as he's the one responsible for the ban.

For the record, it doesn't matter what client you choose.

Most, if not all clients exist under the same subset of rules. No cracking.
And squire is no different to that.

 

[omgsosorry]

hello its me jim6969, the one and only, the MOST amazing and most hardworking discord moderator (over 10500+ plugin servers now)

i have already explained to you in your DMs, but i shall get into more details as you want to the 'boy who cried wolf'

you were banned for participating in a PLUGIN CRACKING discord server, recoderz.

Run by people who have no backbone nor basic education/knowledge to code their own plugins/client.

You claimed that you joined because it was interesting looking?

The reason I'm banned is due to my ACCEPTING AN INVITE TO ANOTHER SERVER

Example A: https://i.imgur.com/gfv1KCS.png

There is no way that you wouldnt have joined without knowing what the server was for (if anyone is planning on joining, you will be banned and not be allowed to join in any plugin servers, dont even try cucking yourself like OP did LOL!)

Secondly; you are asked a bunch of questions related to cracking/leaking plugins to them in order to get a role

Example B:
https://i.imgur.com/wasb9Uk.png
https://i.imgur.com/YGn83Wo.png
https://i.imgur.com/mj6qi0n.png

Thirdly; you were THREATENED VIOLENCE and DOX? LOL

my response to you was because you told me you were going to chargeback via your bank for fraud. Which in this case did not happen as you broke our storm-tos rules

Storm TOS can be found here which you agreed to;
https://i.imgur.com/mCQhtIR.png
https://i.imgur.com/tHRWr5I.png
https://i.imgur.com/dETfuen.png

If anyone has anymore questions regarding, feel free to ask.

I am currently serving in the Republic of Chinas Main Army Battalion

Just a reminder: there's no law against buying 6 gerbils from Petsmart and grilling them in the parking lot.

 

[Raremiahh]

No, I was banned because you guys disliked me and I happeded to accept an invite to a server. I didn't fucking participate. Lmao
bullies, all of you.

 

[Raremiahh]

An Invite that was hidden amongst 6th others. I am not in that discord and you guys stole hundreds from me, while bullying and harassing me and 99% of your customers.

You can say I broke your TOS but I didn't so fuck you.

 

[omgsosorry]

An Invite that was hidden amongst 6th others. I am not in that discord and you guys stole hundreds from me, while bullying and harassing me and 99% of your customers.

You can say I broke your TOS but I didn't so fuck you.

you obviously did not read, and fuck you too !

you clearly broke tos, if you are going to be in DENIAL then i will wait for the beautiful amazing HARDWORKING sythe staff to tell you the answer~

No, I was banned because you guys disliked me and I happeded to accept an invite to a server. I didn't fucking participate. Lmao
bullies, all of you.

I dislike people who try and attempt to steal from my very hardworking devs (shoutout to buracc of storm client, jz of kittykeys, sox of rlpl (shii &alasmo of shismolite/cuell/elliot/sandy/illumine/mika/hutch & junkie of piggyplugins/johnny & pure of skillbox (AMAZING QOL CLIENT!)/Hydratech)

You did participate! I have alot of insiders and spies in the recoderz (dog shit server) and i can confirm you verified yourself! get fucked !

 

[Raremiahh]

I didn't fucking participate in a cracking server. Fuck you youre wrong.

 

[omgsosorry]

I didn't fucking participate in a cracking server. Fuck you youre wrong.

I am never wrong, my name is jim

 

I'm not going to handle this report due to reasons I rather not disclose, so another staff member will handle the report however I am going to step in and perm ban @omgsosorry for being a danger to the community/threatening to misuse personal information of the OP

 

[blogan]

Regardless of Jim's messages here, we still stand by our ruling.

The ban was scraped moments before these interactions from channels that require applications to access which is in clear violation of our TOS.

It should also be noted that this "500+" value he is claiming to be scammed for is arguably a scam within itself. At the time of being banned, he did not have even close to 500 euros worth of active subscriptions. Is he including his expired plugins that he used in this report? and if so why? they're already expired after being used for the full length. His subscription log can be provided upon request proving his false claim.

Let me know if there is anything else you need to know.

 

Good Afternoon Gentlemen,

Thanks for your patience. Does anyone mind posting the full TOS under one screenshot (not a website link) and/or copy/pasting it all? I've tried to join the server & apparently even I am banned from the server (?) - Not sure if just Sythe Staff is banned from this stuff or Jimbo over there went a bit stir crazy.

@blogan / Jim Can you please provide proof of OP doing the things that is being indicated & the main reason as to why he was kicked/banned per your TOS? Simply being in a discord is not valid proof.

 

[blogan]

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This is our full TOS.

Being in, and applying for a discord that is literally advertised as a cracking discord for nulled clients as show in Jim's previous images is all the proof we need.

That is how most, if not all servers operate under the same global ban bot.

We have a strict 0 tolerance for cracking, and if you are caught being affiliated for cracking discords after applying for them, you are out. Those are the rules, the ones we make and the ones everyone accepts when buying our plugins. By your logic, entire groups of people can exist in that discord and you expect us to be comfortable selling our services to people in a discord actively promoting and selling tools to bypass our authentication?
This is how we've operated for as long as we've existed, just like every other plugin server that uses OBB.

As for posting "Proof", the proof is his discord was scraped from the active channels that require an application to participate in. The same application that literally asks you about cracking and leaking plugins.

He claims "he just accepted an invite among lots of others", then he says he's not actually in the discord. So how did he get scraped? The obvious answer is that after he was caught and "banned for being in recoderz", he left the server and then attempted to claim ignorance.

If you are uncomfortable with these terms, that is fine. You're not the one who accepted them 20+ times. He did, and he broke the rules; just like every single other user who decided to apply for a cracking discord.

For some reason, you've also felt the need to ban the owner of the OBB discord bot we use to ban people. In that post, there are previous verdicts referenced in which the same cracking rules were held up.

 

[blogan]

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Since no one has even asked about my claim of him outright lying about the value of this report anyway, here is a link to see his purchases.

It comes to a total of 172.50 euros, far short of the "500+ euros".

This clearly shows he made this report with garbage intentions anyway, proving himself to be a liar from the get go.

Unless of course we should be reimbursing him for all the used plugins he's actually used in the past. Mind you, that still doesn't even come close to the 500 euro figure to begin with?

You know what, I've also attached his credit purchase history. 100 credits = 1 euro, so just divide the full total by 10. It's ~278. Just over half of his claimed scammed value.

This should be enough proof to frame this guy as a liar who has no intention of telling the truth. This is the same as every other user we've had the pleasure of banning.

Unless we're scamming him for his past GP purchases? In which case, that's another 180 euros which is still short of his 500 + scam claim. Of course, how can we be accused of scamming his gold when he has it?

If possible, I'd like to request staff look into this report ASAP as the report is currently being bombarded with users from recoderz spamming invites to their discord. Unfortunately this is the only way they know of getting the attention they need IRL



Ok, I'm just staff for Storm nothing more but I get the feeling things have been blown slightly, if not massively out proportion.

We're here because vRarie was banned for being in the active channels for a cracking discord.
These channels are only accessible by applying to join the server.
These channels are where you acquire cracked plugins and clients, Storm included.

vRarie claims he is not in the discord. This is probably correct now after he was caught and banned for being in the discord.

vRarie claims we banned him because hated him. I will admit, he is annoying. We recently had downtime due to the last game update in combination to some Storm changes. Through this time, he was annoying. Just like lots of others were who received discord timeouts so they could not talk in the channel. We do not ban because you're annoying, we just mute you.

vRarie claims the invite was hidden among 6 or so others.
So what? Is his excuse that he doesn't read the discord servers he joins? Lets ignore the fact he applied for the server after joining it.
Joining random servers is dangerous if you do not know what you're joining; especially if you're interacting with bots in the server. What vRarie claims to have done is incredibly stupid at best if he actually had no intention of joining it. Thats his fault though, not ours. You are responsible for the servers you join.

Now lets assume that somehow he managed to both join the server that is advertised as cracking plugins and client, and continued to apply for server access which asks you whether you are going to leak plugins without knowing that this discord was for cracking and leaking plugins.
At no point did he stop when going through this, even if we ignore the questions about whether he has reversing knowledge. Even then when you get access, there are literally channels everywhere that literally tell you its a cracked client. There is simply no way we can believe this scenario.

So how is this our fault?

He chose to affiliate himself with a server that is known for scamming and cracking private software. He did not leave until he was caught.

If he wishes to refute this, he is welcome to explain how we managed to scrape his discord ID from the active channels of the discord.

If he can give us a valid reason for this happening, we will unban him. Unfortunately there aren't many, if any reasons for applying to a cracking discord server that is verifiable by anyone but him - Someone who has lied from the beginning of this thread.

 

[Raremiahh]

I'd prefer the refund. I'm definitely not going back to storm and that toxic cesspool of harassment, bullying, threating, just cuz one of YOUR CUSTOMERS is a little ANNOYING. Even if I were massively annoying your TOS don't say not to join a random server. I'm not in the stated server so again it's a buncha your guys words against a paying customer who also bought 1b gp from you guys which I got banned for also. So what if I exaggerated the price by 100 euro, I was guesstimating. Would have been over 1k euro by now but thank God I don't have to worry about giving more money to people like you.

Pathetic.

 

[blogan]

I'd prefer the refund. I'm definitely not going back to storm and that toxic cesspool of harassment, bullying, threating, just cuz one of YOUR CUSTOMERS is a little ANNOYING. Even if I were massively annoying your TOS don't say not to join a random server. I'm not in the stated server so again it's a buncha your guys words against a paying customer who also bought 1b gp from you guys which I got banned for also. So what if I exaggerated the price by 100 euro, I was guesstimating. Would have been over 1k euro by now but thank God I don't have to worry about giving more money to people like you.

Pathetic.

What on earth are you talking about?

You are not being offered a refund. You were banned for applying for a cracking discord. Are you even reading this?

You were not banned for being annoying, annoying people get timed out in discord. People in cracking discords however are banned with no refunds.

It was not a random server, you joined and applied for a cracking discord.

As for the whole "its not even stated in the server", you are literally forced to click a checkbox that confirms you agree to the Terms and Services before buying a plugin - every single plugin and access purchase. You clicked this button god knows how many times. Reading really isn't your strong suit is it?

And no you were not off by 100 euros. You said you were scammed for 500 + euros. You only had 170 euros worth of active subscriptions at the time of being banned. So how are you coming up with this 500 euro figure? That is 330 euros off, not 100. You were not scammed for your past purchases. You used them. Jesus man

I'm sorry you got your account banned for real world trading. That is not on us, you broke the rules and accepted the potential consequences the moment you chose to buy gold. I suggest you take this up with Jagex if you also feel this is unfair

 

[Raremiahh]

Again, didn’t participate.

You’re so insanely hostile, no I didn’t get to fucking use my scripts I bought you liar. I have 2 that have have 1 hour used on the majority.

You guys are posting no proof of said cracking server which I still don’t know which one you’re on about.

lmao you should get off the internet for a little while you angry man violent group.

 

Thanks everyone for the patience.

This has been discussed amongst staff;

Given there's no proof provided of @Raremiahh partaking in/verified in this discord in question there's nothing to support the request to withhold him from the client usage. I understand Storm is saying he may have been verified/applied to this discord/etc. this but there's no proof, we cannot just ban based on word of mouth. Reports have always been about supplying documented proof.

User can still remain banned from the discord as that wouldn't prevent him from utilizing the client & Sythe Staff does not moderate discords. He would be allowed the remaining timeframe + the time in which he was banned due to this report.

If Storm Client does not wish to allow this user to continue utilizing the client then a refund would need to be given for the remaining/unused credits/amount, along with the period in which he was banned from the client due to this report.

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As for the remaining report/concerns brought up:

#1) @blogan Please refrain from editing your posts (https://www.sythe.org/threads/4265976/do-not-make-edit-history-private-reports/)

#2) Anyone who is not directly involved (IE: OBB gentlemen) is infracted. It unfortunately just so happened that this was not the first time this gentlemen posted on a report, resulting in a 3-day ban. He's also been advised of this and is aware. Other individuals who've posted and are not directly related have all been either infracted or banned.

#3) Referring to the post by OBB & previous ruling -- that previous report had documented proof of a user being verified in a discord. This is a step further than just clicking an invite. That report likely would've been the same outcome if there was not documented proof as again simply going based on word of mouth is not sufficient.

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I trust you two can handle this amongst each other in regards to either continuing the client or the refund for unused time + time in which he was banned due to this report. If there may be able documented proof to support this individual being verified/applied in this discord please utilize the report post feature and provide this or provide this via discord.

 

Please advise on the above once complete so I can mark this title as resolved @blogan / Jim

 

@blogan Has advised that you've still been able to utilize the client the entire time & has provided sufficient documentation on this, which I've put in a deleted post for staff. Therefore, I am marking this as resolved as you can still utilize what you've paid for. If this is not the case please utilize the report post feature or reach out via discord.