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  1. Unread #21 - Jun 26, 2020 at 8:49 AM
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    But you just said when you saw my report thread is when your cancelled the order? which is it??
     
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  3. Unread #22 - Jun 26, 2020 at 8:53 AM
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    When you treatened to file a scam-report (for the third time or so). That's when we canceled your order.

    In any case, whether you like it or not, those were the T.O.S. that you explicitly said you read, understood and agreed to. We have a discord-channel that falls under their scope and before we came to an agreement we referred you to them and asked you if you had any questions about them. Unfortunately for you, you pushed us so far that we had to trigger them. You could have prevented this by acting normally.
     
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    A moment ago it was when I posted the report, not when I said I was going to do it.

    You're getting confused.

    Pushed you so far? I wrote a bad review, you're gonna get them sometimes as you're a service provider, you're gonna have to learn to deal with them better lol.
     
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    Not that it matters for this report, but purely for the the sake of the argument: Here you can see the order of events.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Gentlemen,

    Thank you for the information provided.
    There's no need to discuss things that are not the matter of this report.
    I will reply shortly, as I'm currently awaiting a second opinion.
    Until then please wait patiently.

    Thank you
     
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    Thank you for your patience.

    We try to give sythe users as much freedom, as possible in protecting their businesses with TOS.
    However, TOS should mainly serve as a defensive mechanism in case of a dispute.

    In this particular scenario @aPurity paid a certain amount of money for a specific order.
    @President then decided to cancel the order before it was completed (for his own reasons, addressed later in this post).
    @President has of course right to cancel the order at any stage, but it's not reasonable to calculate the amount owed based off of a vastly different rate.
    (note: Applying higher rate on work already completed is really a vicious business practice.)

    Article 4 of @President's TOS, stated bellow, is open to abuse and acknowledging it would set a bad precedent.

    @aPurity ordered (total 65m):

    @President didn't complete:

    @President will have to issue a refund for the remaining work. Please base your calculations in line with your original quote of 65m.
    If both parties fail come to an agreement, staff will decide for them.

    Now regarding @aPurity posting on @President's market thread - As I already explained to @aPurity, negative feedback is allowed, but it must be factual and posted with a valid proof. (edit to clarify: I meant a negative feedback in a relevant market thread. Negative feedback in a vouch thread is not allowed at the time of this post.)
    I believe that this situation could have been prevented, had both parties communicated better.
    Please use a post report function to get any invalid negative feedback deleted.

    Please keep us updated.
     
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    Fair enough! @BlackBlasses
    Thanks for resolving this, I will take a look at the provision and modify it then, additionally, I have reached out to the customer and offered to finish the job. It should take a couple of hours at most, since all the skill requirements are finished.
    Edit: customer refused our offer to finish the job (all skills are done, only four quests need to be finished), so we'll be agreeing on a price now.
     
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    The remaining quests - Druidic Ritual, Digsite Quest, Death Plateu, Troll Stronghold, Temple of Ikov, Desert Treasure, Bone Voyage.

    From my original screenshot of the quests remaining, I did not take in to account quest required for the quests remaining.

    Bone Voyage has a requirement of 100 Kudos, which in turn also requires further quests to obtain 100 kudos - 100 Kudos can be obtained by Cleaning finds - but also will require a minimum completion of the following quests - *Demon Slayer - Shield of Arrav, Rune Mysteries, Hazeel Cult, Observatory Quest

    *quest already completed

    President has disputed the list above. Will post screenshots of this shortly - or maybe, @President can post screenshots of him/his workers completing the above quests, as they're all requirements for the list I ordered - presumably, as a service provider they would screenshot each quest completed for the service they're providing.
     
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    Glad we can work this out in a civilized matter. Also glad that you have calmed down and removed the feedback. Thank you for that!

    As an act of gratitude, we'll pay you twice the ratio of the total quest time required for the unfinished quests (which is considered normal) to the total time spent on the account multiplied by the original lump!

    You can look up the wiki's and do the math. @aPurity

    That's our final offer.
     
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    The final offer is unclear. To ensure clarity, and to finally put this to rest - please produce a value in 07 GP.
     
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    Will pay 10.4m. Considering the quests can be done in a very short time, considering they're short (except DT) and the fact that all skills are required. @aPurity

    10.4m to 65m still equals overpaying the matter considering the latter but will pay this because the customer has removed feedback, is willing to negotiate and is acting more reasonable. This is my final offer. Thanks!
     
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    is this offer based on the list produced below, or the list of quests you think are remaining?

    The remaining quests - Druidic Ritual, Digsite Quest, Death Plateu, Troll Stronghold, Temple of Ikov, Desert Treasure, Bone Voyage.

    Bone Voyage has a requirement of 100 Kudos, which in turn also requires further quests to obtain 100 kudos - 100 Kudos can be obtained by Cleaning finds - but also will require a minimum completion of the following quests - *Demon Slayer - Shield of Arrav, Rune Mysteries, Hazeel Cult, Observatory Quest

    *quest already completed
     
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    We came to an agreement. Gonna pay 15m to @aPurity.

    Glad we could handle it like gentlemen. Thanks for cooperating. Also thanks to @BlackBlasses and other involved moderators for getting involved and giving more clarity on the matter!
     
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    I am in receipt of the 15M agreed upon, and now consider the matter resolved.
     
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    Traded 15m to @aPurity. This has been resolved.
     
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    That's absolutely amazing, thank you :)
     
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