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[Warface]

Can’t believe this and only making this report purely out of principle as it’s ridiculous.

Scammer's profile link: @x7hepwn
Explanation of the trade: He needed DS2 Done on his account and we agreed a fee of 16m 07 which would be completed by one of my workers. See here:
Imgur: The magic of the Internet

After I created a group chat with him and he paid 16m for the service here:
https://i.imgur.com/YcB0aEB.png

During the service my worker required more Gp on the account as @x7hepwn only left 150k on there. So I took 2m from the 16m that was paid to cover the supplies on the basis he would reimburse when he was back online. See here: Imgur: The magic of the Internet

Amount scammed: 2m
How they scammed: see above. And here:

https://i.imgur.com/UjmTK5R.jpg

blocked on discord:

https://imgur.com/gallery/G8LYRFe

Proof that it's their Discord:
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: xRaspberry#6475 ( discord profile Raspberry )
Unique ID: 484834741728706583

Pm on sythe: https://i.imgur.com/EOFVoqW.jpg

Other relevant trade screenshots: N/a. Literally though like $1.40.....

 

Hello,

@Warface was providing gear and supplies for the quest part of your agreement?

EDIT: I'm sorry, it wasn't clear enough. Did you agree that @x7hepwn would cover the cost of the supplies needed for the completion of the quest?

 

[x7hepwn]

Mmm. Is there a way for a mod to check previous statement before I edited my post? In my post, any other things needed would be *provided for by the worker*, and this extra 2m happened after everything was set, and while i was asleep. I basically woke up to them saying I owed them 2m, and since he's new, I feared for my untrades tbh and went along with it. I never agreed prior to anything about owing them extra, and I wish i would have taken a SS, because there was 750k left worth of wealth when they got off. after me leaving 250k on it, and them saying it's okay.

They started a process which I agreed to, then broke their own contract by adding stipulations whilst in possession of my account and during something I already paid for. I've been on Sythe for years, I've seen the bad. Was it bad I said okay during? yes. But the alternative was possible loss tons of hours of untradeables.

Sorry, not sorry, don't change an order in the middle of something you agreed upon and expect a customer to change for you.

 

[Warface]

@black

Hello,

@Warface was providing gear and supplies for the quest part of your agreement?

EDIT: I'm sorry, it wasn't clear enough. Did you agree that @x7hepwn would cover the cost of the supplies needed for the completion of the quest?

Unfortunately I did not discuss supplies would be supplied by me nor did we both discuss supplies provided by him.

He left 150k in the account which was not reasonable to complete DS2. As you can see from the screenshot above he says “ sure np “ after I said that he was to reimburse me the 2m for the supplies.

I didn’t break my TOS in doing so but unfortunately we did not agree to it prior but agreed to it during. I’m not even going to entertain his Untradables fear claim as if he truly felt that way he would’ve used another provider or asked for collateral via a MM.

I’m literally in disbelief that this man is actually trying to scam 2m and use some bs to defend it.

 

[x7hepwn]

Uhm, you replied yesterday at 3:16PM before my post was updated, and quoted me with a 25m quote for everything I needed done, at which point you would have had to seen when I said I would not be supplying. I accidentally deleted it when I updated, as I found out when I saw this post.

We agreed upon a deal, you changed said deal and moved on, without my consent for one. That's a no-go.

 

[x7hepwn]

Let's clear this up, pretty fast.

Did you or did you not, in the group chat, change the deal by adding a 2m added commission upon your own supply, without my consent or known acknowledgement?

 

[Warface]

Stop trying to find loopholes to run with 2m. If you’re honestly that desperate for 2m just let me know i will happily give it to you.

Anyway I’ve wasted enough time on you it’s pathetic really. I’m just going to leave this for admins to decide what to do.

 

[x7hepwn]

You can't answer a simple question.

 

[Warface]

Ugh....

The fact is neither of us discussed who would be covering costs of supplies. I normally always discuss this but this obviously is unfortunate that I did not.

So we didn’t discuss it but we agreed during the service that you would reimburse the 2m otherwise the service would not be completed as you left 165k gp stack on the account and nothing else. We had to do additional work on the account such a barbarian training as the account was not ready for DS2 even though you clearly stipulated this on your original thread ( another lie ).

And if this is in your favour and the admins decide that I was covering the cost then there was 800k left on there after 1.2m was spent on supplies for the quest so I’d decided that I was to be cover the cost then I’d like that 800k back.

 

[x7hepwn]

Barbarian training? Dude I've already done that. You're making shit up now. Where is the proof you had to do extra shit? You didn't say anything. So far you've been making up lies and extra costs. I've done mith drags and I think I have a dfh on ss somewhere as proof I'll dig around.

 

[Warface]

Only proof I have of this is my frustrated (rightly so) worker wondering why he can’t jump into the ancient cavern. My other worker explaining why and then the account not even having sufficient items such as a log and now to finish the firemaking section of barbarian training.

https://i.imgur.com/5bU0ESu.jpg

Edit: And the reason why i didn’t mention this to you was because I’m a reasonable human being and didn’t consider it a big deal.

It was very convenient for you to raise all these concerns when the job was completed , leave the group and block me on discord. Not at all sketchy ( sarcasm btw ). If you had an issue with me supplying the 2m and you reimbursing it you had about 2 hours to bring it up after you agreed which you didn’t.

 

Even though 2m is a reasonable cost of supplies for a DS2 quest, we won't force @x7hepwn to cover it, as it wasn't agreed upon prior the start of the service.

It is a relatively low amount of GP in this case, but imagine a scenario where a service provider would use a lot more extra money without customer's consent.

Please always be sure to have as detailed ToS, as possible to avoid similar situations.

So we didn’t discuss it but we agreed during the service that you would reimburse the 2m otherwise the service would not be completed as you left 165k gp stack on the account and nothing else.

It was approximately 1 hour later when @x7hepwn came back online https://i.imgur.com/aWUzbDe.jpg. What if he didn't come online until after the service? The right thing to do was to contact your customer and wait for his reply.

We had to do additional work on the account such a barbarian training as the account was not ready for DS2 even though you clearly stipulated this on your original thread ( another lie ).

If this was indeed the case, then again you should have contacted @x7hepwn and wait for his reply, or cancel the service.

And if this is in your favour and the admins decide that I was covering the cost then there was 800k left on there after 1.2m was spent on supplies for the quest so I’d decided that I was to be cover the cost then I’d like that 800k back.

There's no way to prove the exact amount of supplies left on the account, which is partly @x7hepwn's fault because of his reaction "Alright, np, is it done?" (https://i.imgur.com/aWUzbDe.jpg). @x7hepwn claims that he was worried for his untradeables, which I would suggest wasn't ethical, but understandable. Furthermore, it was poorly communicated by @x7hepwn once the service has been completed .

However,

there was 750k left worth of wealth when they got off. after me leaving 250k on it,

@x7hepwn will need to return any supplies (or GP equivalent) left by @Warface / @Warface's worker.

Please keep us updated.

 

[Warface]

Thank you for your time @BlackBlasses.

Will update you when necessary.

Edit: @x7hepwn , please unblock me on discord and pay back the 750k that was left on there. Thanks

 

[x7hepwn]

I'm not adding you, w479, GE.

 

[x7hepwn]

[redacted - RSNs]

 

[Warface]

@BlackBlasses

debt paid , you can close this buddy.

@x7hepwn please remove those pictures as it has my RSN on there and I very much would not like that to be public

 

Excellent, thank you very much.

Have a blessed day