[RESOLVED]

by completing a 3rd stake, that was no approved by admin/owners, you decided to take a risk in the trust of the host(who also violated rules by taking the large stake) with no records of it, meaning that the 500m payout of insurance is justified.

@Dixxie do you have any proof at all where the admin gave perms to take a 1b stake?

 

@Island
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[Dixxie]

by completing a 3rd stake, that was no approved by admin/owners, you decided to take a risk in the trust of the host(who also violated rules by taking the large stake) with no records of it, meaning that the 500m payout of insurance is justified.

@Dixxie do you have any proof at all where the admin gave perms to take a 1b stake?

The 500m was a refund to my two stakes which was supposed to be monitored by an admin which wasn't the case due to which a Bettor was Scammed, its a payback towards the negligence the fc did to provide monitored service. This is the whole idea about having a Staking Friends Chat is to have Admins/Owners responsible enough to give trusted Ranks to people who will not Scam Bettors and if they do, they are supposed to be responsible enough to get up and refund the scammed amount. If he understands and agrees that I was scammed for 3 bets, he should have understood that he was at fault by lacking monitoring due to which the bettors got scammed. Just like his own host realised and stopped us from betting further.

As a bettor, the rule doesn't say "Bettors" have to ask for permission from admins, the rule says the Host can go 10% above if he takes permission from the admin/owner. Here the reason why the hosts are ranked is because RANKS symbolise TRUST and as a bettor we are expected to Trust people who are Ranked as Hosts and considering all rules I still feel the owners should understand whats the debate about. Its not about returning my 1B, its about sticking to their rules and being courteous enough to refund the max pot of the scammed bets.

Infact if they do allow Hosts to go above max pots (10%) as they say, then they should be refunding me the max pot + the 10% considering the host said it in the fc and no one verified if it were untrue. As far as the hosts calling stuff in the fc, the bettors cant keep doubting things they say and call an admin to verify things.

Again, coming back to my question, why was I told that if I prove that I have proof of him entering the amount on calculator or if I show proof of trade, I will be given a refund? I just feel they tried everything to avoid refunding and then just choose to wash their hands off by bluntly refusing once I put in efforts to gather the proof.

 

[Dixxie]

I did notice people commenting here without seeing my side of the story and so I decided to make sure I have my deleted post here in public so that people know what happened:

The following was the Scam Report and I believe its obvious that they are trying to cover up and run away from paying me for my scammed amount. If they had their way they wouldn't even pay me my 500m back but they did so that they could use it to show that they did put in efforts to refund a little.

ORIGINAL REPORT:


Issue Explained in Detail: I was betting on a Host(Host:Aayush) in Elite Ranks Friends Chat (Now:Elite Champs) where the hosts max pot is 250m per stake. The host was 1xloss and I bet 250m on him, he then said he lost it and called a fake streak of 2xloss, as a bettor I believe in streaks and so betted 250m again, he claimed he lost again (Everytime he went in he said he was in Private Arena and so he was calling fake streaks in the FC) Now that the host was 3xloss and since I lost 500m I wanted to try my luck and double up (If it were a win I would make back what I lost) So i asked if he could take more than his max pot [The admins/owners normally allow their hosts to take a bigger amount than what the host normally do with permission] The host said in the FC that he took permission from the admin to take a 1B bet however just as a one time, so I bet 1B on him. He even called my bet in fc and then another host(Host:Mana) Pm's me saying there is something wrong with his stream. I asked the host on pm if he is streaming and he logged off. I logged on to discord as requested by host:Mana and he asked an admin:Moo to handle the case, Moo then said that the owner will refund the amount and requested to take it to discord. I then sent details to moo and he said he will take it up with the owner and so i need to wait. In the meantime the host who scammed deleted the upload (I am not at all sure why he did that, I dont even know if he did it after he spoke to the owner) I was then sent a msg by Moo asking for a link to the stream where the host scammed, and the owner asks me how much cash I have on rs (something that's not at all related to the issue) the owner and admin said that he can see a clip that shows 2x250m bets and so refunded me that, moo and the owner said they will only refund the 1B stake if its on calculator or if I can show them proof of the trade screen. At this point I didnt know what to say because as a bettor I am not to know which pot is going to be scammed and I wouldnt have trade proof for all the traded bets given to hosts. They refused that he entered any details on the calculator. I was sure I seen him calling the bet in the FC as well as sure that I did see him mentioning it on the calculator. The Owner Clearly stated that he will refund if I get proof of amounts on stream or on the calculator. I only mentioned it to the other hosts in the FC who were so helpful and everwilling to help and one of them (Host:Mana) sent me both the proofs one which showed him calling the bet in fc - this was caught on another hosts stream(Host:Koaly) & the other proof was of the calculator on the website where the bet was entered (which means the owner lied about it so that he doesnt have to pay back). After showing this to Moo and the owner, they still insisted on getting a trade screen proof else no refund. Bezi (who is another host in the FC) was another helpful person who actually got the video proof for me (I am so thankful to some of these hosts who actually went out of their way to help me prove what was needed/asked by owner) After showing the proof to Coin, he then gets 5Wap into the conversation who was extremely rude and was very blunt and just didnt want to listen or analyse the problem. He insisted that the hosts max bet was 250m and refused to give me the money I was scammed for and sarcastically asked me if i want the full 1B. Ofcourse I was pissed by now, after waiting for about 6-8 hours and being asked to prove so many things, I am still being refused. I then even told them to just pay me 250m+10% since they said thats all they allow for over the max bet. But he refused bluntly. I had no option than to get this case here. Its not about the cash as much as its about the ethics and rude behaviour. I am officially one of their highest bettors and they treat me like this, I wonder what they would do to the others.

 

Honestly u shoud get refunded just 250m because its ur mission to take a look on hosts like u can trail them to see if they go in arena they streaming so u can see if the go arena but no u just betted on him like BLIND human. So ur trying to say if u woud of done 10x 250m bet u shoud get refunded 2.5b just because u didnt noticed that before lol. That makes litterary no sense.

+++ Coin wasnt even on at that time how tf coud he give him permission ? like wtf ll0 ? and u still traded 1b more (Gyazo - aaaf4f738075bdeb9f0c84342ddf9e8b.png) guy said in fc that coin isnt even on =? L0l

And if u didnt notice that somthing fishy is going on when he said that owner allowed 1b max when his max is 250m L0L ?? ?? = ? =? = ?= ? ==?

˝Its not about the cash as much as its about the ethics and rude behaviour. I am officially one of their highest bettors and they treat me like this, I wonder what they would do to the others.˝

And because ur their higher bettor does that mean they shoud refund u whole amount even tho it was ur fault that u didnt notice that host scammed u and u contiuned with betting. ? = ?=?


PS: huh how can 250m max host scam u 1775m unless ur blind. *no offence to ppls which actualy are blind*

 

[Dixxie]

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If u check the stream, the Gyazo u provided and the screenshot I took from my a/c which I posted in the detailed explanation, u will see that the "Fishy" thing was spoken about in fc after the trade was done and obviously if I knew something was fishy, I would obviously not trust him with any further trades...how am I supposed to know? The FC provides a service where they guarantee that their hosts wont scam us which is why we TRUST and BET.I even asked him if he is streaming and all so that I could check...No rule says bet on only 1 host at a time, and it impossible to trail all hosts on rs. Moreover, Private Arena was called in fc else I would see the match live in the South Arena.

PS: huh how can 250m max host scam u 1775m unless ur blind. *no offence to ppls which actually are blind*

This is why I posted a detailed explanation...people judge without reading and understanding properly and just assume or misinterpret stuff...U say I AM BLIND yet u didn't notice I was scammed 1.5B and not 1775m as u mentioned...I am not here to debate on stuff, It was my duty to report this Scam to Sythe and I did just that.

 

Well if i woud bet on guy with 250m max 1b i woud check his stream before trade.

And u stated that ˝u will see that the "Fishy" thing was spoken about in fc after the trade was done and obviously if I knew something was fishy, I would obviously not trust him with any further trades...˝

Look at my screenshot which was taken directly from that guy stream WHICH YOU PROVIDED ON FIRST PAGE OF THIS REPORT (Gyazo - 4499fe34d30541dd9caec1a97203b3dd.jpg) Read what guy said in that red bar.

That pic was taken around 1 minute BEFORE YOUR 1B TRADE ?=?=?=? explain that ?

Picture which clearly shows that guy was talking abaout fake stake on that host RS TIME-11:54:50 ->
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Picture which clearly shows when u traded ur 1b RS TIME-11:56:13 -->
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So ur trying to tell me u didnt notice fishy talk abaout host which was going on in fc for 1 min and 23 seconds ?


YES YOU ARE BLIND OR ALL THIS WAS JUST SET UP !

Got ya scammy bish !

[All evidence was taken from stream which she provided.]

 

to conclude this, as no more evidence was provided.

@RS Crown and @Owner will have to pay 500m back (which they already have, so DNT will be removed)

250m for the first two stakes as those were within limits of the host. The last 1b will not be covered, as a better, your job is to make sure everything is situated correctly by checking up on your stakes. Seems only common sense that you wouldn't throw 1b on a host thats only allowed 250m, especially without permission to take more. If you are going to do commission staking, you must check the staking clan rules like take precautions like checking the board to see if our stakes are being accounted for.
This is why i asked if you had proofs of owner/admin approval to do such a large stake.

Only reasoning behind the second 250m payout is because their rules didn't specify only one refund (which is suggested to limit it in the future).

Case is closed, @Dixxie sorry for your loss.
@Owner @RS Crown DNT removal requested.

 

[Shin]

@Owner @RS Crown DNT removal requested.

DNT's removed.