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Profile: Divine
Reason for report: Falsely advertising

[RSgoldfund.com][#1 GOLD SITE][CHEAP]==*MANY 2007 ACCOUNTS SHOP*==[MANY METHODS][ENGLISH SUPPORT]

[RSgoldfund.com][#1 GOLD SITE][CHEAP]==*MANY 2007 ACCOUNTS SHOP*==[MANY METHODS][24/7 SUPPORT]

[RSgoldfund.com][#1 GOLD SITE][CHEAP]==*MANY 2007 ACCOUNTS SHOP*==[MANY METHODS][ENGLISH SUPPORT]

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There are no accounts that match these 3 threads ^. Which I have reported him in the past for.

[RSgoldfund.com][#1 CSGO SITE]==*SELLING CSGO SKINS & KEYS*==[MANY PAYMENT METHODS][ENGLISH SUPPORT]

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NO stock in CS:GO I checked earlier about ~10 minutes aka 20 minutes after his bump and asked support they aren't sure when more is going to be in stock.

This sketchy behaviour is is just beyond negectful and shouldn't be allowed, he's been banned in the past for it and continues to do it. Why? Because he has no idea how to run a business and shouldn't be able to advertise here on Sythe.org period. ONE of the old reports: Divine/Rsgoldfund false advertising

 

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The stock was set down purely because they got sold, we have a stock of them.

It went to 0 because when an agent marked the account delivered our system automatically took X stock and subtracted the delivered amount.

Agents cant modify the stock because I'm the one with the accounts, hence when someone ordered accounts it set the stock down but the agents didn't know we had more(because I hand deliver the accounts to the buyers, can prove)

I've always had account stocks set to 1 then they go to 0 and I reupdate them(accounts occasionally get a ban or something so I always have to hand check each account before the sale hence the stock being set to 1 obviously so we don't sell more than we have), its been that way for 3-4 years.

We literally just sold an account last night(I'll Pm any staff proof), I fell asleep and wasent aware an agent had marked the order delivered which simply caused the stock to fall to 0, its been fixed now.

"False advertising" implies we are advertising something we don't have, which we do,and we did before this thread, I'll prove we have more of those types of accounts on those threads listed and we ALWAYS HAVE.

We also have csgo keys, same situation as above. Hand delivered, I have to buy them, have them sent, and so on. Nothing here was false advertised.

Feel free to purchase an account and find out if I'm telling the truth.

This can be closed.

 

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Pmed @video evidence of the above.

 

First off, anyone who has more than 1 account would list the stock as more than one. They should keep their stock accurate on site.

2nd, You have ZERO accounts that meet this criteria
[RSgoldfund.com][#1 GOLD SITE][CHEAP]==*MANY 2007 ACCOUNTS SHOP*==[MANY METHODS][24/7 SUPPORT]

3rd, I specifically asked when more keys were coming in stock, and they had no clue nor did the tell me why there were none. I couldn't have bought anyways since you were offline(sleeping). So why would you advertise at this time of night when you aren't available and noone can trade for them? This same point can be applied to your Buying CS:GO item thread also.

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And now you are selling each key for $39.99?? lol what I'm sure you definitely had stock my dude.

 

@video please use some common sense when addressing this issue don't just take his word for it. He still clearly doesn't realise that he is breaking the rules.

 

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Already messaged video evidence of us having more accounts in stock before this thread was made.

Already messaged him about the cs:go to.

Our system messing up does not = false advertising I'm afraid.

It's simple.

If Bogla gold's system messed up and set their price to $0.01 a mill and someone purchased 10b 07 and bogla refused to deliver and the buyer reported him for "false advertising" would he be punished? Of course not.

Common sense comes into play, I proved I have more accounts in stock that meet that criteria and I sent more evidence about the csgo.

Accounting error does not = false advertising

Simple.

 

Already messaged video evidence of us having more accounts in stock before this thread was made.

Already messaged him about the cs:go to.

Our system messing up does not = false advertising I'm afraid.

It does when you specically go on your website and ask about certain things, and they say they can't help. Also why are ignoring my 2nd and 3rd point? Why the fk are you trying to pull a helen keller? You are doing it well though. Keep ignoring straight facts and pretend like you've done nothing wrong.

 

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It does when you specically go on your website and ask about certain things, and they say they can't help. Also why are ignoring my 2nd and 3rd point? Why the fk are you trying to pull a helen keller? You are doing it well though. Keep ignoring straight facts and pretend like you've done nothing wrong.

Point 1 I already destroyed

Point 2 we have accounts that meet that criteria. You apparently cant read.

Point 3 Nowhere on our threads do we claim to sell counterstrike on our site, do we? Yes. Coincidence.

Do we claim to do so? Nope. Nowhere.

Rsgoldfund is purely a branding play, the brand has trust thus if someone adds me on skype or discord they know their trading with more than an individual.(Which both csgo threads have our skype/discord)!

There is a billion and one massive loopholes in this report, theres nothing illegal here.

 

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See there's a fundamental difference here.

The accounts we directly claim to sell on our site, And thus I have to directly prove I have such products because we claim to sell them on our site, so the burden of proof laid on me to prove that which I sent to video because I claim we have them and did before this report was up which was caused by an unfournate accounting error, not false advertising.

The csgo side of things nowhere do we claim to even sell on our site, we provide multiple other contact methods directly to me and the site side of things is merely a branding play, not false advertising in any form. Letting people know I am associated with Rsgoldfund implies more trust & makes trading easier as they know I'm not an individual, nowhere do we claim to physically sell on the site. Thus the burden of proof does not lay on me here.

^ Is just one simple loophole, I could list a dozen more if I wanted.

I spoke to multiple staff when I rewrote these threads, about the wording, the layouts, & more to make sure there were NO other potential mistakes. If Video holds me accountable then the staff I spoke to couldn't see any problems. I still see no problems, I wrote these damn threads literally word for word in the clearest language possible & got approval from staff about them when they were unlocked.

If they still contained potential false advertising, then I wouldn't of been able to get them unlocked, clearly the staff team felt that my threads were up to standard and I even ran them by a few staff aswell.

 

Point 1 I already destroyed

Point 2 we have accounts that meet that criteria. You apparently cant read.

Point 3 Nowhere on our threads do we claim to sell counterstrike on our site, do we? Yes. Coincidence.

Do we claim to do so? Nope. Nowhere.

Rsgoldfund is purely a branding play, the brand has trust thus if someone adds me on skype or discord they know their trading with more than an individual.(Which both csgo threads have our skype/discord)!

There is a billion and one massive loopholes in this report, theres nothing illegal here.

We'll see I'm done speaking to a dumbass who is trapped in a corner spewing bullshit. You are so stupid. Nothing you have provided here has shown me otherwise.

My point 2 is still correct?? Can you not read lmao? Look at the accounts you have for sale and the section you are posting in.. lol

Point 3 you clearly list your website in the thread title and have a link going to it along with with other methods of contact leading straight to you. You were not online to be selling and buying. So clearly you were falsely advertising period. And you broke the rule twice with your buying and selling threads.

 

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We'll see I'm done speaking to a dumbass who is trapped in a corner spewing bullshit. You are so stupid. Nothing you have provided here has shown me otherwise.

My point 2 is still correct?? Can you not read lmao? Look at the accounts you have for sale and the section you are posting in.. lol

Point 3 you clearly list your website in the thread title and have a link going to it along with with other methods of contact leading straight to you. You were not online to be selling and buying. So clearly you were falsely advertising period.

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enforcement of the False Advertising rule

At best its an infraction, not false advertising. If your claim is right then we were posting a thread in the wrong section, however we weren't false advertising we had those specific accounts in that section because the same 2 are listed on every thread. There's a difference between an extra thread & false advertising products we don't have, which we didn't.

 

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False advertising reports do not belong in the scam report section, please report a post next time.

I addressed the rs accounts situation in an earlier reported post someone had made. Their website allows for custom builds so you could order an account with stats of the combat level section the thread is in and that allows the thread to be in that section.

I have locked the csgo thread and market-banned divine from the csgo market altogether for 7 days. I have also better clarified the punishments for repeat offenders of this rule (thankfully there have not been many)