"Sarcasm: the last refuge of modest and chaste-souled people when the privacy of their soul is coarsely and intrusively invaded." - Fyodor Dostoevsky, Russian novelist.
Let me tell you about a story that happened when I was in High School. There was this guy, who will be referred to as Patrick, and this girl who will be referred to as Patricia. (Yes, nice verisimilitude.)
Patrick and Patricia was in love with each other. They loved each other very much, and surely, they began dating. When they had been dating for approximately 3 weeks, they decided it was about time to introduce each other to their parentals. So Patrick informed his parents, and they set up a dinner appointment at the next Friday.
As the days passed by, it became Friday, and Patricia was thrilled to meet Patrick's parents. She was very polite to both of Patrick's parents, and everything seemed to go smooth. There was one problem, though. Patrick and his family were Jewish, and Patricia was Christian. During the dinner, Patrick's mother got concerned, and asked Patricia about her religion. She said, with a smile: "My family is Christian." This caused an awkward silence at the dinner table, and Patrick's mom suddenly seemed like a ghost.
Of course Patricia thought to herself, "Did I do anything wrong? I'm sitting nicely, I'm speaking politely, I'm not dressed slutty, I'm eating like we were taught to eat at the fine restaurant... My God, what did I do??"
The silence broke when Patrick's father, said, in rage, "This cannot do. Patrick, you KNOW the Torah strictly forbids Jewish people to have a relationship with people who are not Jewish!"
So it ended. Patrick was sad, and so was Patricia. Patrick loved both Patricia and his parents very much, but there was no way around it, he HAD to break up with Patricia because of their different religious beliefs.
Patrick never forgave his parents for forcing him to cease a relationship with the woman he truly loved.
The End.
Factual story which happened to two friends from my old school. Names was changed.
Maybe people would drop the facades and for once, be themselves? They could say what they really mean, and learn to think individually?
Also: "If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed" - Albert Einstein, German-born American physicist
Children being distorted from their families, read up. Innocent sins? Masturbation is a sin. Premarital sex is a sin. Those are innocent sins.
Comparing Adolf Hitler to God is probably wrong. God is way worse. Hitler killed 6 million Jews and 5 million humans of other ethnic origins. His soldiers also killed 450.000 soldiers in World War 2. God? He drowned the entire fucking planet, killing billions. Not to mention the other incredible amounts of insane mass-butchering in Egypt and Jerusalem.
What evidence? Just like every other religion, Islam is based upon fables and mythologies. Though a question about Islamic belief, is it true that the Qu'ran says Hell is only temporary? Unlike the Bible which claims it's an eternal punishment.
There is only one thing I would like to point out. One country's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. And these "Islamic terrorists" are not terrorists because they are Islamic.
Incidentally, Islamic terrorists are extremenist Muslims. If there were no Islam, there would be no Islamic terrorists. Even you have to agree with that. I also believe that it's not so long ago a 15-year old muslim girl was stoned to death by her very own family, all because she had a crush on someone who was not muslim.
You also said that it's not ones religion which causes people to do bad? Excuse, but these isn't the Qu'ran which promotes Muslims to slay in the name of Allah? Isn't it the Qu'ran who teaches children that Jews are apes, and Christians are pigs? If a muslim wishes to convert away from Islam in an Islamic country, that muslim will be killed. The Qu'ran also says that women are worth less than men. And you wonder why there's so much conflict in the middle east. :|
I can find the Qu'ran quotes stating this, incase you don't believe me.
We were talking about dying, not inhaling drugs. Your brains are the most important organs of them all. It can stay alive for upto 14 minutes without the help from other vital organs. After 8 minutes, you are 85% likely to get serious brain damages.[/QUOTE]
Funny little story you got there. Thanks for sharing it with us. You sure as hell changed my mindset. Almost like a mini Romeo and Juliet episode. Did anyone die in the end? I think they should have committed suicide just to please themselves. Or they should have just killed their parents. How did you know what this "Patricia" was thinking at the dinner table? Or are you just assuming that she was thinking that? Until you answer my question, I am forced to believe that this Patricia is you. Or I am willing to give you all I own, for you to teach me how to use those brain powers that everyone has.
Also, I do not believe you about just about anything you said regarding the Quran simply because none of it is true. You know nothing about it and you simply believed what you heard about it, or you are simply prejudice. Because if you actually knew about it, not by hearing it or going to biast websites, but by actually buying a Quran and reading a translated version of it, you would not say what you have said. By you saying what you said it only proves to me that you do not know almost anything about the Quran or what it says. The Quran does NOT "promote" slaying at all. The Quran only says to kill in the name of Allah if someone is invading your country or your house, or similar(your family, etc). As defense. Meaning do not kill with the intention of revenge or violence or anything else. Only kill if someone tries killing you. Simple. And by the way, it is a sin for one muslim to kill another muslim.
The Quran does not teach that Jews are apes and that Christians are pigs. I do not know where you got this from. But the only thing similar to this is when Allah told the people(at the time they were all jews) that they can fish anyday of the week except on saturday. The Jews knew though that there was usually more fish on saturday. The Jews had a choice: fishing on saturday and getting lots of money after they sell it, or listening to Allah and being righteous. So the Jews thought and said, "Ooh. Why don't we put the fishing net in the water friday night and pick it up sunday morning? That wouldn't be fishing on saturday!" Basically, the Jews tried tricking the untrickable (Allah) and as a result of this, Allah turned all of them to apes. Get it? It goes back to ignorant people who tried being sneaky. Not how bad or unfair or intolerable Allah is.
The part about "Christians are pigs"- is all not real. There is nothing in the Quran that states that christians are pigs and that Jews are apes. The Quran does not discriminate against anyone or any group or people.
In an Islamic country, when a Muslim chooses to convert to Christianity or any other religion or even atheism, he is not killed. He is not harmed or touched. I do not know where you got this from but you have no proof behind it because it never happened. But I know for a fact that Christian fundementalists have killed and torturched and threatened other christians just because they were bisexuals or homosexuals. It was actually stated earlier in this thread too.
The Quran never, ever says that women are worth less than men. Just because in other Arab countries women are discriminated and are viewed as a slave to the man and even in some cases not allowed to work, that is NOT what the Quran says. Once again, you do not base your facts upon one religion because of what some people do that happen to be that certain religion... You compiled all of your information about the Quran from the media. You cannot possibly argue with information that was announced by popular TV hosts and expect to convince the people around you with it. I am arguing with a solid background and an unlimited amount of ways to prove you wrong about anything you say that is not correct about the Quran; simply because I read the non-translated version of it. The only thing the Quran says that may have people thinking that women are "worth" less than men, is that when there are two siblings, and their father and mother dies, and one of the siblings is a boy and another is a girl, the boy gets 2/3 of the inheritance. And this is only because the woman is taken care of her brother. The brother, or her cousin, or her husband is the "caretaker" to say, of the woman.
It doesn't matter if it is inhaling nitrous oxide or dying. In the end, it is the same damn thing. In the end, you cut of the uspply of oxygen to your braincells. Wow, after reading your responses I would think that you would be able to understand a concept as simple as this one... Btw, what would the point of giving me some statistic about how long the brain can live or can't live without oxygen lmao?
The reason why Adolf killed those people(which your statistic are COMPLETELY illogical and just plain wrong), is because he is only human. He would have been happy to kill more, but he wasn't able to! His time was up. He killed all those people for no reason. God "drowned" the world because Noah has been trying to get people to believe for 950 years! And after all of that, they still wouldn't! So God told Noah that he was going to send a flood that would flood all of Earth. So Noah was given a "device"(claimed to be like a little heating instrument) and was told that once water starts coming out from it, that is the sign that the flood was going to happen. So Noah tries telling people about this flood but no one believed him. So he gathered up the few good people that believed and two of every type of animal, and God flood the world. And a new world population started all with only good people. And one very important thing- there is no proof, or even a way, there is no way to know that at the time of Noah there were billions of people. The world now after producing and populating has billions, at the time it was not known. And it is almost for sure that there weren't that many people. Only because after the time of Noah until now,
there are only 6 billion people. May I ask, what are these other insane mass butcherings in Egypt? Because I live in Egypt right now and I know much more about this country and about my religion than you will ever know. So please tell me more about these mass killings you speak of. And provide proof.
That is true, if there was no Islam, there would be no named Islamic terrorists. They would just be terrorists. So either way they are terrorists because of who they are, not because of their religion. Or it may be in some cases that it is because they were taught from the wrong people and taught that to be a "true" muslim you must kill others in the name of Allah- I have heard of this and believe that it is true. So once again it goes back to the people, not the God.
Depending on what you define as a sin, the things you have stated may be sinful, or just wrong. And the things that are sins in Islam are made sins to protect you. Masterbation is wrong because is remove the first time feeling of sex and will not make it as special as it supposed to be. Premarital sex is a sin because in Islam you are not allowed to have sex until you are married. For your own sake, you don't want to have sex a hundred times before you get married and then find out that you have herpes or something. If you are ready to have sex with this person, go get married- legally and religiously. The whole point of getting married is to have sex and have a family. Why would you ruin that by having sex earlier!
I agree with you that most religions are based upon fables and mythologies. Especially Christianity and Judaism. Which is the reason why I do not feel I need to take a worse attitude at you. It is simply because it is true in Christianity and Judaism, but
not Islam. Let me ask you this and you may answer if you'd like to: were you born into a christian family? If not, what religion were you born into?
The Quran says(which means Allah says this too since the Quran was revealed by Angel Gabriel who was sent from God) that any Muslim who goes to Hell, will eventually get out of it. But that only stands for any Muslim.
Islam includes actions that have happened in the past and the lesson in them is said. Not fables and mythology. Christianity believes that Jesus is the son of God and is God. But Jesus never said that he was God and on the first page of the Bible(i think it is the newer one- the new testament; since there are so many editions and everything is always changing it is hard to keep up), it says that Jesus is the son of a man named Yusuf! See how contradicting this is! It is actually freaking hilarious once you get to read some of the things in the book. The original Bible that was lost so long ago was never found and new copies came out completely altered by Jews, just like they altered the original Torah to please themselves. Which is the reason why you can find similar stories in both of the books and sometimes even the same sayings surprisingly. Which is the reason why God sent the last Prophet and Messenger ever-- Mohammed (Peace Be Upon Him). God sent Prophet Mohammed to tell the people that this is the last religion and that the other ones have been altered and that this religion will
never be changed because Allah himself is guarding it. And there is
no force greater than Allah.
And I have never heard of the story that supposedly happened not too long ago of a girl being stoned by her Muslim family for having a crush on someone who is not Muslim. Now let me tell you what Allah says about this in the Holy Quran. He says that it is not wrong for a Muslim man to marry someone who is not a Muslim like he is, it is simply looked down upon. But for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man, is a sin. But all wrongdoings and sins are to be taken care of by Allah, and strictly no one else. Which is the reason why is is prohibited to torture people in Islam. So I don't know where you got this story from, but that story does not make all Muslims bad. It just makes that family bad and are just Muslim by name, not by actions. A real Muslim is by actions(praying,manners,etc).
u will go to heaven simple as that
So what you're saying is that no matter what any ever does, that person and everyone in the whole world and all of the universes will go to heaven? Well you keep believing in that.
It matters not. It would cease to exist.
Your mind is nothing more than the sum of each individual brain cell in your head. All of your thoughts are nothing more than the firing of neurons, your emotions the release of certain chemicals, etc. What makes you think that it is more than that?
Yet in all of the physical, non-intelligent aspects of the universe, you still see an intelligence behind it.
The Quran? What does the Quran state that was proven by science recently?
Please stop trying to tell me what the mind is. I know what it is, thank you.
I still see intelligence in what exactly? Because if it is in Islam, all of the aspects of it are quite the opposite of what you said they are. They are intelligent. And believing that there is one supreme ruler, an overlord, to say, makes perfect sense. Just not from the point of view that you were taught of.
Things proven- will get back to you with info
i belive my mom
