Owen1993 said:I agree.
If it's a human life, you would kill it to spare a woman mental trauma? Would you kill a 20 year old man to spare her that trauma?
Owen1993 said:I agree.
Unfortunately most of the "stupid" people you are talking about includes at least half the world. If you are going to punish them by forcing them to have babies, yeah I don't think its going to help anyone.I agree.
Abortion SHOULD NOT be used just because you were an idiot got pregnant when you didn't want to. There are TOO MANY ways to stop yourself from getting pregnant and when you get pregnant, you want to kill a baby that has a chance at life? Nah.
And to the people who say "what if they can't afford it" etc. You don't have to keep the baby. Theres something called adoption agency's that are more than willing to take the baby in. It's not "full". Watch the news, babys that are found in a dumpster get more than 1000 people wanting to take that baby in their home.
AkA_Stoney said:i dont think it should even be an option to be able to , produce and then terminate, a baby, no, and theres always, giving your baby to someone that wants it , how bout that, who knows how long we have left...
It's not a human life until it's seperate from the mother.
I agree.
Abortion SHOULD NOT be used just because you were an idiot got pregnant when you didn't want to. There are TOO MANY ways to stop yourself from getting pregnant and when you get pregnant, you want to kill a baby that has a chance at life? Nah.
And to the people who say "what if they can't afford it" etc. You don't have to keep the baby. Theres something called adoption agency's that are more than willing to take the baby in. It's not "full". Watch the news, babys that are found in a dumpster get more than 1000 people wanting to take that baby in their home.
Hey read my post just above.i do however agree somewhat to this but why cant you just put it up for adoption?
pretty shitty to destroy a life.
im sorry you feel that way.
AkA_Stoney said:im sorry you feel that way.
ism said:Whether the fetus is considered human or not cannot be the basis for argument.
And you are still left with the challenge of explaining why it is necessarily wrong to kill a human. Hence, it cannot be the basis of your argument.If it's a human life, then abortion is murder.
Unfortunately most of the "stupid" people you are talking about includes at least half the world. If you are going to punish them by forcing them to have babies, yeah I don't think its going to help anyone.
More specifically, abortions are more necessary in places where poverty already exists. These places are also where proper education is either non-existent or much less prevalent. Forcing these people further into poverty by forcing them to have unwanted children is going to make their situation much worse.
Do you also realize that no serious sociologist, economist, or not-retarded person sees adoption as a viable alternative to abortion? Do you think there are good adoption agencies all over the ghettos and in poor countries?
Are you aware of the problem that currently exists in South and Central America? It is a monument to what occurs when you let foolish, arrogant ideologies overtake your rationality. Banning abortion does not lower the amount of kids people have. It also doesn't lower, or only very slightly lowers the amount of abortions people get. The difference being that instead of getting their abortions in safe, sanitized environment, they are forced to get them through other means and many women end up dying from bleeding, infection, etc.
Lastly, in most courts, murder is considered a worse crime than rape. To those that consider killing babies murder, why would you make an exception for women who were raped?
Yeah that's pretty obvious. Fortunately, that explains exactly why you are unable to make any sort of rational defense, or really anything beyond incoherent babbling.your post, made no sense to me, at all
And you are still left with the challenge of explaining why it is necessarily wrong to kill a human. Hence, it cannot be the basis of your argument.
Like I said, if you can prove that abortion is a bad thing, it would stand to reason that you should base your laws on murder accordingly (to include abortion). However, most people can't seem to explain why it's wrong without making a number of faulty premises and thus are unable to reach a proper conclusion.
In summary, whether abortion is murder is a question you should be asking after you have arrived at a conclusion on whether it is desirable or not through proper logical reasoning, not before and not as a means of determining if it is desirable.
When did I say rape was the same thing as abortion? You really need to brush up on your reading comprehension. And I'm glad you think your emotional well-being is more important than the lives and well-being of millions of people.
And did you say abortion has no effect on poverty? This isn't even an arguable point, you philistine.
I didn't ask for a definition of murder. Are you able to read past the 2nd grade level?
It would be great if people had proper education and didn't need abortions. That is largely why you don't see wealthy people like doctors getting abortions. Unfortunately, most of the world does not have access to this sort of education.

