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Honestly our userbase of oldfags are so backwards looking and so cliqued it's little wonder we never have any new users. We're not open to new users. We're not forward facing. We're closed up tighter than a govt building on a public holiday.

I've actually had new users in discord tell me they can't figure out how to integrate with you guys.
I believe most of the older members are actually welcoming to new users. You won't usually see someone 2012 or older berating new members by calling them "vaders". I assume that most of the oldfags are here for the community, where more is better. I'm all for changing and has been long overdue.
 
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i believe that most oldfags are like dis tbh. but quite honestly if the new members can't take the heat they can fuck off.
and this is the exact attitude I'm talking about

if this site were a boat and I let people steer it on your own it would go in circles 10 miles off the coast until it ran out of fuel and you all died for lack of being able to do anything except the same thing you were already doing. It's pathetic
 
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I'm just going to say this straight up: If you don't like DNT you should just stop using the site.

I don't want to hear it anymore.
 
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and this is the exact attitude I'm talking about

if this site were a boat and I let people steer it on your own it would go in circles 10 miles off the coast until it ran out of fuel and you all died for lack of being able to do anything except the same thing you were already doing. It's pathetic
wooot i made the perfect example! thanks

but yeah seriously I know what you mean, and I have seen it also. Most oldfags seem to be ok on a personal level but once you get them in a group it's gg and the gangrape starts occuring.
 
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oh ffs. It was suggested the trust indicators be hidden on DNT users. We did that. It was suggested the DNT users shouldn't be able to PM. We did that.

"You don't listen" you're like a needy 55 year old woman

Can you add a signature or user title that says these people broke the ToS and should not be traded as they have displayed malicious intent in the past?

I like how you make fun of people to justify your actions but in reality all of the random bitch fits you threw caused so much damage to your community and you've never bothered apologizing for it. You're fine with making fun of people but if someone attacks you or your ideas you try to punish them.

For real though you have some amazing analogies, I would have never thought of calling someone a needy 55 year old woman. I would have probably just reverted to calling you something that would end up with me getting banned again.
 
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Can you add a signature or user title that says these people broke the ToS and should not be traded as they have displayed malicious intent in the past?

I like how you make fun of people to justify your actions but in reality all of the random bitch fits you threw caused so much damage to your community and you've never bothered apologizing for it. You're fine with making fun of people but if someone attacks you or your ideas you try to punish them.

For real though you have some amazing analogies, I would have never thought of calling someone a needy 55 year old woman. I would have probably just reverted to calling you something that would end up with me getting banned again.

He removed the Zero Shit Talking Policy a while back.
 
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The zero shit talking policy wasn't there when I made fun of him and got banned? It was added as a result of that situation.

All I'm saying is that Richard realized banning people for talking shit in the Spam Forum is a horrible idea. At the very worst you'll probably just get ignored.
 
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Can you add a signature or user title that says these people broke the ToS and should not be traded as they have displayed malicious intent in the past?

I like how you make fun of people to justify your actions but in reality all of the random bitch fits you threw caused so much damage to your community and you've never bothered apologizing for it. You're fine with making fun of people but if someone attacks you or your ideas you try to punish them.

For real though you have some amazing analogies, I would have never thought of calling someone a needy 55 year old woman. I would have probably just reverted to calling you something that would end up with me getting banned again.
the rank already says do not trade

not all of them necessarily had malicious intent in the past some of them may have been badly hacked or repeatedly hacked

Further DNT users have already served their punishment. The DNT is for protection of others not to punish them.

If I were a DNT user who for example had a contract dispute in which I ended up owing say $1000 to another user I would not appreciate using a site where I was arbitrarily labeled a scammer in large red letters.

You lack empathy with these people and an understanding that each case is different and often a complex situation.


But for the love of god we've been over this 1000 times. Have you read the other threads?
 
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This offends me as a vegan transgender hipster Native-American-Indo-Chinese hybrid alien agnostic-atheist German engineer who vapes fairtrade organic decaffeinated compressed and hydrated extra-protein soy breast milk on the regular and does Hindi Kama Sutra naked crossfit yoga 5 times per week. I'm also a nonbinary trigender genderqueer male feminist and identify myself as a pastafarian pansexual genderfluid Apache helicopter dog of mega multi alpha beta gamma delta omega combo god of hyper death who's in a polygamous polyamorous relationship to the chihuahua which helped me cross the border of Mexico because it hates Donald Trump. My dog also walks me to the park and doggy styles me, if you find that weird you're an ignorant arrogant homophobic gender-assuming globaphobic bloodthirsty gun-loving cisgender pansexual bestial sexist racist incestuous white-previlege misogynistic biased objectified raped privileged Nazi slave owner terrorist lesbian
 
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This offends me as a vegan transgender hipster Native-American-Indo-Chinese hybrid alien agnostic-atheist German engineer who vapes fairtrade organic decaffeinated compressed and hydrated extra-protein soy breast milk on the regular and does Hindi Kama Sutra naked crossfit yoga 5 times per week. I'm also a nonbinary trigender genderqueer male feminist and identify myself as a pastafarian pansexual genderfluid Apache helicopter dog of mega multi alpha beta gamma delta omega combo god of hyper death who's in a polygamous polyamorous relationship to the chihuahua which helped me cross the border of Mexico because it hates Donald Trump. My dog also walks me to the park and doggy styles me, if you find that weird you're an ignorant arrogant homophobic gender-assuming globaphobic bloodthirsty gun-loving cisgender pansexual bestial sexist racist incestuous white-previlege misogynistic biased objectified raped privileged Nazi slave owner terrorist lesbian

stopped reading at terrorist lesbian

wot is ur problem m8
 
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You lack empathy with these people and an understanding that each case is different and often a complex situation.


Can we get a link to the reason of why they're DNT. I sometimes rarely trust clicking their signatures ;s. There is a tool creating for TWC link; that Matthew will make when gets round to it. I was assuming same could be done for DNT?
 
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the rank already says do not trade

not all of them necessarily had malicious intent in the past some of them may have been badly hacked or repeatedly hacked

Further DNT users have already served their punishment. The DNT is for protection of others not to punish them.

If I were a DNT user who for example had a contract dispute in which I ended up owing say $1000 to another user I would not appreciate using a site where I was arbitrarily labeled a scammer in large red letters.

You lack empathy with these people and an understanding that each case is different and often a complex situation.


But for the love of god we've been over this 1000 times. Have you read the other threads?

I have read them and it clearly looks like you disregarded my responses on them, why is it wrong to lack empathy for these people? People like Arcus were hacked before and paid out thousands to the people who scammed using their name

You're basically saying its ok to scam someone if they have been put in a tough situation in real life and its ok to put somebody else into that tough situation if it benefits the scammer.

It looks like you've sold your moral values for internet traffic which is sad to see. I don't respect people who scammed and haven't made an attempt to pay it back just like many people here don't but it looks like you're ok with this as long as you get a few posts out of it.
 
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I have read them and it clearly looks like you disregarded my responses on them, why is it wrong to lack empathy for these people? People like Arcus were hacked before and paid out thousands to the people who scammed using their name

You're basically saying its ok to scam someone if they have been put in a tough situation in real life and its ok to put somebody else into that tough situation if it benefits the scammer.

Scammers are still banned. Just not perm banned unless it is an indictable offence. Once the ban (punishment) has run its course they are put into DNT. The debt becomes a civil debt. This is literally how the rest of the world operates.

It looks like you've sold your moral values for internet traffic which is sad to see. I don't respect people who scammed and haven't made an attempt to pay it back just like many people here don't but it looks like you're ok with this as long as you get a few posts out of it.

You're welcome to think whatever you like. It seems a lot of older users and particularly salty exstaff would rather see the site cease to exist than encourage these old users to reintegrate and repay.

Between the fact that banned users can ban evade or go to another internet forum and interact there instead what is the actual effect of leaving them perm banned? It's an absolute mindfuck to me that this attitude is so prevalent. You can claim the moral highground all you want but at the end of the day criminals are going to do whatever they want, DNT or not. I guarantee you that victims of scams will not be better off if the site dies.
 
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