Staff update

[Punjabi3]

DNT members can't PM non-DNT members

I'm so sick of hearing bullshit about DNT. It clearly works. It's clearly been successful. Clearly none of the problems that everyone bitched and moaned about actually came to pass.

It all just comes down to the fact that this isn't a democracy and people have a hard time with that. Why do you love democracy so much? Can you point to an example of a democracy which isn't currently gangrene to the bone ready to collapse?

Why do you see leadership styles in such a narrow view? Nobodies saying to make a democracy here, people want to feel respected and by disregarding their opinion to say your opinion is the best makes them seem irrelevant to anything other than cleaning up spam.

Also not sure if this was a troll but he was able to PM people? Hasty

 

Just throwing it out there:

- Application for staff forum

Part of the DNS list for a long ass time.
Multiple years of different staff/community members saying no to this and its ok now.

5% staff? Bro you just lost more than half your staff team update your numbers.

You do realise that things change over time right? When the average age of users was 13 it was not appropriate to have people apply to be mods. Now the average age of users is ~22. People are looking for jobs and they value work experience and a reference for their resume.

Does anyone else here actually consider that sythe.org is not in its own little pocket of trapped time but actually is moving with the rest of the universe down the timeline? It's fucking 2016. In large part practices from 2006 are no longer appropriate.

 

Why do you see leadership styles in such a narrow view? Nobodies saying to make a democracy here, people want to feel respected and by disregarding their opinion to say your opinion is the best makes them seem irrelevant to anything other than cleaning up spam.

Also not sure if this was a troll but he was able to PM people? Hasty

No this is all about you didn't get your way and now you're salty about it. You don't care if the notion had any merit or if it works, you just care that you didn't get your way.

 

Also DNT members cannot PM other members as of about a week after DNT was implemented.

 

[SuF]

Upward mobility? It's not a 25,000 person retail business. It's a handful of volunteer staff adjudicating disputes about RWT transactions.

If you want upward mobility you're definitely in the wrong place.

i mean people do care and you'll get more out of them

 

i mean people do care and you'll get more out of them

staff positions are not medals they are volunteer jobs with significant responsibility attached to them

Unfortunately the pool of candidates we draw from value pixels on the screen above most other things due to the nature of this site. So it is quite difficult to overcome this notion that you somehow earn your staff position then sit in it forever. That's not how it works.

 

You do realise that things change over time right? When the average age of users was 13 it was not appropriate to have people apply to be mods. Now the average age of users is ~22. People are looking for jobs and they value work experience and a reference for their resume.

Does anyone else here actually consider that sythe.org is not in its own little pocket of trapped time but actually is moving with the rest of the universe down the timeline? It's fucking 2016. In large part practices from 2006 are no longer appropriate.

sec let me see
nah dude its still 2006, just rubbing ur're willy man

 

chill

 

[Tyler]

DNT members can't PM non-DNT members

I'm so sick of hearing bullshit about DNT. It clearly works. It's clearly been successful. Clearly none of the problems that everyone bitched and moaned about actually came to pass.

I thought I read somewhere they can reply to old pm's to get around that.



Additionally what do you mean "successful" successful in what? I've seen more DNT users trying to trade than DNT users trying to pay back their victims.

 

Honestly our userbase of oldfags are so backwards looking and so cliqued it's little wonder we never have any new users. We're not open to new users. We're not forward facing. We're closed up tighter than a govt building on a public holiday.

I've actually had new users in discord tell me they can't figure out how to integrate with you guys.

 

I thought I read somewhere they can reply to old pm's to get around that.

@Matthew can you check this bug

Additionally what do you mean "successful" successful in what? I've seen more DNT users trying to trade than DNT users trying to pay back their victims.

community activity is very significantly up, we've got people pardoning successfully who wouldn't have bothered pardoning before and I'm sure people will start paying back their victims once the pardon system is reformed and there is therefore incentive to do so


but you know fuck it lets just ban everyone again and have the same 50-100 users and 200 vaders like before since that's such a good model

 

Ok lol lets go back to have 95% of the community banned, the remaining 5% on staff and focus on just one dying game. Good fucking idea man.

Do you think people haven't realized this over the past 5 years (RS dying)? No one (save for the market moguls who probably wouldn't mind new focuses on this site, and diehard RS fans) is attached to the game. People have been asking for this site to produce something or shift its focus to draw new people in for years. Go look at the denied suggestions section.

 

actually you know what I'm tired of debating DNT

mod apps by people who are anti-DNT will not be considered

 

[Punjabi3]

No this is all about you didn't get your way and now you're salty about it. You don't care if the notion had any merit or if it works, you just care that you didn't get your way.

What do you think my way was? I was fine with DNT because I knew you wouldn't get rid of it, I just provided suggestions to mitigate the risks associated with it which I'm sure multiple other people have suggested and you disregarded.

 

Do you think people haven't realized this over the past 5 years (RS dying)? No one (save for the market moguls who probably wouldn't mind new focuses on this site, and diehard RS fans) is attached to the game. People have been asking for this site to produce something or shift its focus to draw new people in for years. Go look at the denied suggestions section.

Do you realize that until very recently we couldn't make large changes to the site because of the old software we were running? Do you realize that the conversion took 9 months full time to complete and still isn't completed.

Instead of bitching and moaning and asking for things to be done, join a team and make them happen.

I'm going to go back to writing SytheLib because arguing with you guys is pointless. You're not going to change your mind and you have no new information for me so I'm not going to change my mine.

 

i believe that most oldfags are like dis tbh. but quite honestly if the new members can't take the heat they can fuck off.

 

[Tyler]

community activity is very significantly up, we've got people pardoning successfully who wouldn't have bothered pardoning before and I'm sure people will start paying back their victims once the pardon system is reformed and there is therefore incentive to do so

Fair enough, I just dont think a good vetting process was used in the DNT.

but you know fuck it lets just ban everyone again and have the same 50-100 users and 200 vaders like before since that's such a good model

I'm not saying that was a good model, I'm under the assumption that we could have went through this better.

 

[SuF]

staff positions are not medals they are volunteer jobs with significant responsibility attached to them

Unfortunately the pool of candidates we draw from value pixels on the screen above most other things due to the nature of this site. So it is quite difficult to overcome this notion that you somehow earn your staff position then sit in it forever. That's not how it works.

I honestly think that you need to have sides to be successful. People sitting on the ranks is a problem but using the ranks to get people to do things for you works really well and we should work with that.

 

What do you think my way was? I was fine with DNT because I knew you wouldn't get rid of it, I just provided suggestions to mitigate the risks associated with it which I'm sure multiple other people have suggested and you disregarded.

oh ffs. It was suggested the trust indicators be hidden on DNT users. We did that. It was suggested the DNT users shouldn't be able to PM. We did that.

"You don't listen" you're like a needy 55 year old woman

 

[SuF]

Honestly our userbase of oldfags are so backwards looking and so cliqued it's little wonder we never have any new users. We're not open to new users. We're not forward facing. We're closed up tighter than a govt building on a public holiday.

I've actually had new users in discord tell me they can't figure out how to integrate with you guys.

Want to point me at some people? I'd be curious what they have to say.