2017-2018 NFL Discussion Thread

[Hostblapstat]

@Hostblapstat just riddle me this then, why couldn't you win the division? A division in which the winner was the BIGGEST UNDERDOG in NFL HISTORY in their playoff game (Texans).

I get you defending your team, but you're just defending a trash product at the moment, and nobody that isn't a Colts fan would even have to think about a Packers Colts debate in terms of who's been better lol. It hasn't been close since Brett Favre was their QB. AKA ages ago.

You pull out the Patriots and Falcons, the two fan-bases that can legitimately trash talk Green Bay. Last I checked that isn't the Colts. And Rodgers still has his ring, so until Matty Ice equals that, you take Rodgers career over his every time.

Here's where the real proof in the pudding is: Your team isn't there yet if you brag about season games. Any team. Any fan. It's about titles, not season games. You will NEVER see me brag about a season win and if you do feel free to call me out on it. It's about the playoffs, always has and always will be. The amount of times the Packers have blown people out in the season to lose to that same team is enormous, season games are pointless.

Compare Green Bay's last second loss to the Falcons in the season and their blowout loss in the playoffs. Every game is different and unpredictable. That is the nature of the best of 1.

Or the Packers SB year, the Falcons beat them in the season, were the 1 seed, and got blown out. You never know in a Best of 1.

All goes back to my original point, it's easy for you to be hype about the NFL every year because you get to be unbiased come playoff time because the Colts are not there right now. The fans of teams that are there clawing for a title don't find the same enjoyment you do. Frankly I'm tired of seeing Green Bay choke. But I'm not gonna pretend the Colts are even remotely on their level right now. And Ik you're not stupid enough to believe it, you're just mad I had a go at them. I don't think they're immune to criticism. They play in a god awful division and have performed terribly.

And no, again, beating a team in a season game means nothing at all. There's no argument you or anyone can give that season games have any relevance come January + Feb.

I rest my case.

Colts have more super bowl appearances than the packers in the last 10 years, and same rings. Trash the colts all you want but we have been more successful in the last decade. Simple as that.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

I rest my case

Incapable of intelligent debate. Real shame.

I'll just assume you've conceded defeat here like the Colts do with regularity year afteryear.

 

[Hostblapstat]

Incapable of intelligent debate. Real shame.

I'll just assume you've conceded defeat here like the Colts do with regularity year afteryear.

Colts have more super bowl appearances than the packers in the last 10 years, and same rings. Trash the colts all you want but we have been more successful in the last decade. Simple as that.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

13 titles to 4

/thread

 

[Hostblapstat]

13 titles to 4

/thread

Now you wanna talk about championships won over 70 years ago, if thats not pathetic I don't know what is. LMAO.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Now you wanna talk about championships won over 70 years ago, if thats not pathetic I don't know what is. LMAO.

You can't even construct an argument past a screenshot anyway. Waste of time lol.

 

[Hostblapstat]

You can't even construct an argument past a screenshot anyway. Waste of time lol.

Well yeah, you waltz in here and attempt to trash the team that you lost to and has been more successful than your team in the past decade. Pretty hilarious if you ask me.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Well yeah, you waltz in here and attempt to trash the team that you lost to and has been more successful than your team in the past decade. Pretty hilarious if you ask me.

Lol so we can cherry pick 10 years and not go back the whole way. Ok

 

[Hostblapstat]

Lol so we can cherry pick 10 years and not go back the whole way. Ok

In no universe can you actually argue the Colts are better or have been more successful in the last 10 yrs. Packers are right up there. Probably top 3 - 5 in the last 10 yrs.

Umm yeah you were literally the first one to bring up 10 years.



At the end of the day, the same team you're attempting to trash beat you in your own stadium, case closed.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Umm yeah you were literally the first one to bring up 10 years.



At the end of the day, the same team you're attempting to trash beat you in your own stadium, case closed.

Not attempted, did. Pretty successfully too, so this debates over unless you want to actually answer my points instead of posting screen shots. All you've really got now is ten years I gave out of respect to Manning's colts. They haven't been even close to Green Bay since he left. Sorry

 

[Hostblapstat]

Not attempted, did. Pretty successfully too, so this debates over unless you want to actually answer my points instead of posting screen shots. All you've really got now is ten years I gave out of respect to Manning's colts. They haven't been even close to Green Bay since he left. Sorry

Ok when the packers beat the colts talk to me.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Ok when the packers beat the colts talk to me.

That's more likely to happen then you winning the worst division in football

 

[Hostblapstat]

That's more likely to happen then you winning the worst division in football

Colts lead our division in division titles by a longshot so yeah we do frequently win the division.

And it's pretty ironic that you say that because the packers dont even lead their division in division titles. (The Vikings do) LMAO.


And I'll also leave this here just because.

Case closed.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

Colts lead our division in division titles by a longshot so yeah we do frequently win the division.

And it's pretty ironic that you say that because the packers dont even lead their division in division titles. (The Vikings do) LMAO.


And I'll also leave this here.

Case closed.

"You're going back all the way"

*proceeds to go back all the way*

Lmao. You're as bad at debate as the Colts in 2017 are. But anyone that constantly parrots the same drivel over and over again makes that pretty obvious. All you have to go on is one season game. It's all you've been able to go back to. And you only cite the past when it suits you. Again, really poor at debating. You cannot even give my points a legitimate rebuttal. Just reeeeeeee season games reeeeee.

Protip repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't strengthen an argument.

This dude deadass trying to compare all time record while dismissing all time CHAMPIONSHIPS. Brainless position. All you do is cherry-pick statistics to strengthen a weak argument.

Inb4 the screenshot reply as an other admittance of sound defeat. Unfortunately this sound defeat pales in comparison to the Colts upcoming campaign where they again lose consistently in the WORST. DIVISION. IN. THE. LEAGUE.

"But hey, at least we won that meaningless early December game," Host says to himself as he falls asleep with tears in his eyes.

 

[Hostblapstat]

"You're going back all the way"

*proceeds to go back all the way*

Lmao. You're as bad at debate as the Colts in 2017 are. But anyone that constantly parrots the same drivel over and over again makes that pretty obvious. All you have to go on is one season game. It's all you've been able to go back to. And you only cite the past when it suits you. Again, really poor at debating. You cannot even give my points a legitimate rebuttal. Just reeeeeeee season games reeeeee.

Protip repeating the same thing over and over again doesn't strengthen an argument.

This dude deadass trying to compare all time record while dismissing all time CHAMPIONSHIPS. Brainless position. All you do is cherry-pick statistics to strengthen a weak argument.

Inb4 the screenshot reply as an other admittance of sound defeat. Unfortunately this sound defeat pales in comparison to the Colts upcoming campaign where they again lose consistently in the WORST. DIVISION. IN. THE. LEAGUE.

"But hey, at least we won that meaningless early December game," Host says to himself as he falls asleep with tears in his eyes.

I've said what I needed to say. I'm no longer continuing this debate.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

I've said what I needed to say. I'm no longer continuing this debate.

As have I, it's honestly sad you couldn't answer one of my points definitively or without bias. Was looking like a good debate but you had to litter it with irrelevant screenshots / only allowing usage of statistics on your side of the argument and not mine. Even moreso irrelevant when they broke the own rules you set in the debate. Hilarious

But I'll be back here during the season when the Packers have a better season than the Colts again like every year since Peyton Manning left.

Have fun celebrating mediocrity and season wins. Us fans of real teams will be hoping for rings in February, not moral victories in December.

 

I love the NFL, but I've never really had a team. I'm more into the player aspect (hence why I love to do fantasy leagues). Maybe this year I'll fall into a team and run with it.

SB contenders: Pats, Steelers, Seahawks, Raiders, Falcons (if they can have high octane offense again, will be interesting to see) I'm leaving some out since I haven't really been looking into NFL much this offseason.

MVP will be interesting as well. I have a feeling it'll be TB12 or Derek Carr. Both had great seasons last year.

 

[I Bleed Duke Blue]

I love the NFL, but I've never really had a team. I'm more into the player aspect (hence why I love to do fantasy leagues). Maybe this year I'll fall into a team and run with it.

SB contenders: Pats, Steelers, Seahawks, Raiders, Falcons (if they can have high octane offense again, will be interesting to see) I'm leaving some out since I haven't really been looking into NFL much this offseason.

MVP will be interesting as well. I have a feeling it'll be TB12 or Derek Carr. Both had great seasons last year.

Agree with the list of contenders, I'd add Dallas and Green Bay to the mix as well (Packers had a really good draft and adding Martellus Bennett is pretty huge, finally a real TE for Aaron). Cowboys will not be as dominant as last year but I think they'll make the playoffs.

I also expect the Panthers to have a strong bounce back season.

 

Agree with the list of contenders, I'd add Dallas and Green Bay to the mix as well (Packers had a really good draft and adding Martellus Bennett is pretty huge, finally a real TE for Aaron). Cowboys will not be as dominant as last year but I think they'll make the playoffs.

I also expect the Panthers to have a strong bounce back season.

Yeah, I was hesitant to throw the Panthers out there, but I could see it w/ the addition of McCaffery.

 

With camps going on, any surprising guys that are coming out for your team? I'm personally excited for Beast Mode in Oakland.