[DENIED] 1Year Account responsibility

6 months, take it or leave it. 1 month isn't long enough nor is 3 months personally, and 1 year is too long. 6 months is the middle ground of all of these. That's what I got for this.

 

6 Months is still a lot better than what we have right now. The reason why I have chosen 1year instead of 6 months, is because paypals chargeback period is 180 days, and a lot of resold accounts are bought via paypal. So after 180 days seller knows nothing will happen to him, which still puts this period in the "risk zone".

 

I support. I think a year is to long but I do think we could increase it from a month.

 

1 month is too short, 1 year is too long. 3-6 months and i support then.

 

I haven't read the whole thread, just your post.

I support the 1 year time frame however sometimes its hard to get a recovery on an account that you started sometimes its just difficult i know people who are original owners and sometimes cant get an account back.

1 Year should only stand if there has been one transaction and all recovery responsibility should be dropped if the purchaser sells the account on, because quite frankly you don't know where what or who's hands it has gone to and you also don't know if the purchaser wants to just get onto the account to raid it after reselling.

I believe the caveat should be as above if it was to extend.

 

I agree that 1 month is to short.

However I do not support the 12 months,
For example I made an account for a worker to train only last month, I noted the first password and the creation date and did not use a VPN as it was only a couple accounts I was making, unfortunately the worker got the account banned, it took me 10+ attempts to recover the account and that was using the same info everytime, it just so happened one of the attempts finally worked, jagexs recovery system is abismal, from my own personal experience its as if the recovery goes through 2 stages, 1) an automated denial response, 2) it passed the 1st stage then goes onto manual rewiew, now that manual review (from my experience) is either accepted or declined by the Jmod reviewing it.


I completely agree that one month is too soon, I was good friends with someone who was recently banned who used to buy accounts then sell them off and he definitely abused this 1 month responsibly rule indeed not intentionaly but even he knew those accounts could be recovered at anytime.


The only accounts I am now selling are accounts with false email logins (never had a registered email). Now customers buying those accounts know that the accounts only ever had one password and they can easily check the creation date with hans, if we changed this rule too even 4 months+, what is too stop a customer from wanting the money ney back and submitting a false claim that the account has been recovered? In jagexs view this guy has been paying, he knows the first password, creation date and is the only person to know ANY transaction Id's ect. I mean we can't even buy the bonds with a Cc on an acc with no registered email it won't go through, I think this is something that needs to be thought about carefully as to not fuck over account sellers in the future.

 

I support this 100%. The claims that recovery become less each month that goes by is false. Proven by a banned seller in my facebook group, even with the change of ip and location the account can still 100% be recovered by the owner as long as they have the right details regardless of time it was gone from them. He was able to yank back accounts sold over 1 year ago on first attempt from his new house 500 miles away from account creation IP. Allowing only 1 month opens a door to scamming. With stricter guidelines and more enforcement, it could 100% be done to create a truly safe market.

I would add that recovery test are a must and selling of an account without login email should not be allowed. (unless unregistered to a fake domain) And yes the login email matters. As if you spam request to get account locked the system 110% will default the account to login email as a safety net. I have been able to get my accounts i buy back 100% of time due to owning the login email.

 

I feel like increasing the amount of responsibility time would increase the cost of accounts. I don’t know how dramatic the increase would be however.

One year might be a bit to long while 1 month might be a bit short. I really think it should remain the same for now but perhaps maybe increase the punishments for recovered accounts etc.

 

You're right,

What would happen is #1 people would buy accounts to bot farm, claim account was hacked once recovered the user would claim you got it banned yada yada.

#2 people get bored quick sometimes and will go "I can't access the account the user recovered it I dont feel safe" then youd be stuck having to refund because they had buyers remorse.

#3 a year long worry that at any point a client can bust your balls.

However if you're an honest provider even 1 month wont matter too much you'll do what you can to help unlock, recover etc if a client needs the help.

Even if you aren't able to do so you tried at least.

Yellow Hat

 

why is it ok to recover accounts that have been sold at all, no matter how long its been?

1 month, 1 year. Why are they not responsible?

 

Nobody said it was. Also, the sellers are held responsible up until X amount of time stated in their ToS.