Suicide.
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Read this right here man: http://www.sythe.org/personal-support/1499195-feeling-suicidal-read.html
Definitely not worth it as you got a lot comin ahead of you! Keep strong and it'll be so worth it. I definitely urge you to read that thread.
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I feel like suicide is the wrong with to fix anything. Not only do you end your life but you harm your family and the people who care about you
This has been brought up, I replied with something along the lines of..
Sure, you may be hurting the people around you, but you have to think.. If you're willing you commit suicide, you've thought all of this through. You're obviously going through a lot more pain then your friends and family will go through. Unless, it is not a case of depression. I can go into detail later.
I resent this statement. I am/have been suicidal but I'll fight any mother fucker out there. I can take a fuckin hit and I don't think I've ever been knocked out. I'm a solid white boy (not racist however, jus white) and it is my own bad decisions that have lead me to falling to rock bottom, I am recently climbing out of the whole, but just because someone is suicidal, it doesn't make them weak. I can give many other example of strength in other areas as well. I have spent a total of 23 months in COUNTY jail. For those who haven't been to jail, it IS different than prison. There is ALOT LESS to do in county. You have to strengthen your mind and keep yourself busy so you don't go crazy. I am schizophrenic/bipolar/and have multiple personalities and I believe this is all due to my incarceration. I have been on the streets and stuggled day to day to get by, even hours or minutes at a time, starving, strung-out, nobody would help me and my "homies" are stealing behind my back left and right. I AM NOT WEAK. But I am/have been suicidal.
Suicide is not for the weak, it is for those who feel bad for what they've done, or for what they've lost, or for things that are out of there control, etc.
If your whole family died, and they were all you had, the only thing that brought you joy, you would probably be depressed. Joy is gone = sad.
Many of my suicide attempts have been with a knife, and most times because I'm mad at myself for doing stupid shit. I think it takes a BAMF to (attempt) to remove yourself from this world jus so you stop hurting those you love. To take your own life, of course will hurt them, but to know your mother is crying and hardly sleeping at night worrying about you doing drugs and taking others with you, or having your family scared of you because you get so mad at YOURSELF you take it out on them because they're your family and their always there for you, sometimes it seems worth it to make them mourn over you, time will help that, but hurting them over and over and over and over again, can be alot worse. I am more stable now, but that is my biggest reason for my suicide attempts. Guilt, Remorse, and Sorrow.
I hope this helps you understand suicide from the suicidal point of view.
The deuce-deuce(.22) I had to my head never went off for me. Hair trigger and it didn't go off. I stopped pulling the trigger halfway, when normally I'd barely have to pull the trigger and it'd bust off. There is a reason I am here. I've made 9 'attempts', meaning to do be successful every time.
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If anyone is suicidal or has problems they need to talk to someone about, feel free to pm me on here for my contact information. You can give me a call if needed. I know how it is to need someone to talk to. It sucks when you have nobody... I can relate to most anything on some level and am willing to share any and all of my experiences with anyone in need of help. I HELP PEOPLE. It's what I do. Even though I get burned most the time from these very same people, it is still worth it to me to know I was trying to help them and my intentions are good.
Though I don't like bringing in person stories into this, this is only one suicidal point of view. There are many different reasons, some of which come from nothing along the lines of depression, sadness, lack of joy, etc.
Although true, it is an extreme version (IMO), and I have 9 'attempts' so you could look at this as 9 points of view, and then multiply the 9 by my 4 personalities. A total of 36 suicidal point of views.
An old lady told me a story the other day about her life as she grew up in India
She told me that on her way back from work, while she was taking the bus, she saw the ambulances rushing to the building where she lived. She later found out one of the ladies in her building took her child up to the roof, blind folded her, and jumped while holding her child. They both died. The old lady told me that she often wondered what the child said on their way up the stairs, and how her mother responded. She wondered how people could call her weak when she believed taking your own life took the most courage you could ask for
that shit kind of hit me. I never looked at it that way - I feel like everybody, or the vast majority, see suicide as the "cowards way out" and that one should face their problems and what not, but maybe it's not the "cowards way out". I could never imagine taking my own life, or having the balls to do it. Could you? Maybe it's not the act of a coward - but instead, demands a hero's courage
She told me that on her way back from work, while she was taking the bus, she saw the ambulances rushing to the building where she lived. She later found out one of the ladies in her building took her child up to the roof, blind folded her, and jumped while holding her child. They both died. The old lady told me that she often wondered what the child said on their way up the stairs, and how her mother responded. She wondered how people could call her weak when she believed taking your own life took the most courage you could ask for
that shit kind of hit me. I never looked at it that way - I feel like everybody, or the vast majority, see suicide as the "cowards way out" and that one should face their problems and what not, but maybe it's not the "cowards way out". I could never imagine taking my own life, or having the balls to do it. Could you? Maybe it's not the act of a coward - but instead, demands a hero's courage
I haven't read the rest of the thread (simply don't care to go through so many pages so someone clue me in if I'm missing something.)
Ok here's my first problem. You say you have "9 attempts" almost as if it's just a tally mark and you're shooting 10, almost as if suicide attempts are in someway positive. It's ridiculous.
Furthermore as Stickly said you provided one point of view (for that instance.) There are varying types of suicide (Altruistic/Anomic/Egoistic/Fatalistic) which encompass all "views" of suicide.
I do not think you understand how point of view works, especially if you think you have 36 suicidal point of views.
Not sure if trolling
Although true, it is an extreme version (IMO), and I have 9 'attempts' so you could look at this as 9 points of view, and then multiply the 9 by my 4 personalities. A total of 36 suicidal point of views.
Ok here's my first problem. You say you have "9 attempts" almost as if it's just a tally mark and you're shooting 10, almost as if suicide attempts are in someway positive. It's ridiculous.
Furthermore as Stickly said you provided one point of view (for that instance.) There are varying types of suicide (Altruistic/Anomic/Egoistic/Fatalistic) which encompass all "views" of suicide.
I do not think you understand how point of view works, especially if you think you have 36 suicidal point of views.
Not sure if trolling
A) I was making a joke. It was only 1 point of view.
B) I am a sarcastic ass hole. I'm a clown. I'm a BAMF...
C) Let's put it this way. EVERYONE calls me "RED" Taylor MF Red.
D) Famous people walk on red carpet 'cause they're famous or whatever,(NOTE: The red carpet has my name all over it) but I walk on toilet paper because I'm the shit.
E)^^Also a joke, except B, C & that I am the shit.
F) I was stating a fact that I've attempted to kill myself 9 times. Not counting the time I've overdosed and actually died on XTC & Spec K plus a bunch of other shit.
G)Suicide is NOT positive. It is one of the most negitive things any individual can do, IMO more so than murder but not as much as rape or chomo bullshit.
H) said VIEW not TYPES of suicide. YES, I AM A GRAMMER NAZI. If you're from ENGland, know you're ENGlish. Jus sayin'.
I) have wasted more than enough time on you, and am still a badass.
'Nough said.
I couldn't agree more. Stupid to let some one suffer. Always best to try and help them, although when most people are suicidal, most people they know stay away form them and tend to shun them. It's rather sad. But if you know someone who is suicidal, they'll be 10% negative 99% of the time. Bear with it, swallow your pride and help them anyways. It's what they need. A FRIEND.
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Although true, it is an extreme version (IMO), and I have 9 'attempts' so you could look at this as 9 points of view, and then multiply the 9 by my 4 personalities. A total of 36 suicidal point of views.
So wait are you claiming you have multiple personalities now? I thought you had bipolar and schizophrenia. My bullchit meter is off the charts.
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Think you're funny "joking" on a fucking suicide thread? Think its cool joking around about killing yourself and mental health??
Also this isnt Robzombie179's gloating thread. Its a thread about fucking suicide you don't have to tell us how badass you are every other sentence.
Seriously can't hardly believe how tasteless you are about this, heres to #10 pal.
Where better to post a joke? Helps lighten the mood (for those who don't have a redwood tree shoved up their ass).
And yes I do have multiple personalities, though I am not diagnosed with it, I have had 3 other personalities talk to me in a mirror while I had no control over what was being said or over the movement of my body. Crazy AF. I AM diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder. Which is a mix between bi-polar and schizophrenia. That is just one of my many diagnoses. ADD, Manic-Depressive, etc are among the others.
I was trying to lighten the mood moron. You apparently haven't dealt with these things. Sometimes one has to joke about things that are hard to talk about. I wasn't gloating, it was a joke. Can you take a joke? Apparently not.
I'm 24 and have had to deal with mental health since I was molested by a faggot at the age of 5. Don't tell me what I can and can't say about mental health or suicide. I will say whatever the fukk I want. It's called THE WILL TO CHOOSE. I have been through hell and back too many times to keep track of. Jus keep your stupidity and moronic comments to yourself if they involve me please.
Also, if you can't handle how badass I am, then don't read my post. There's a scroll on the mouse for a reason. It's for those who are less than me.
Btw, I'm not your fucking pal. Though I love your negativity towards sarcasm, we're most definitely NOT friends. I <3 HATERS!!
Sorry to those I've offended. Was trying to lighten the mood. Some people can't handle it, it seems, but it is what it is.
We've went over this a few times previously, and I would. I've went into detail that if they WANTED help, I would surely help them myself, or get them help. But if they did not want help, I would not force them. They are in much more pain than I would be, myself, or have good reason enough where they've thought it through knowing they would be hurting me.
TL;dr of thread: Multiple thoughts on suicide, why it is weak or not, reasons of suicide, large institutions that are to "help"/prevent suicidal people, everything suicide related, honestly.
Where better to post a joke? Helps lighten the mood (for those who don't have a redwood tree shoved up their ass).
And yes I do have multiple personalities, though I am not diagnosed with it, I have had 3 other personalities talk to me in a mirror while I had no control over what was being said or over the movement of my body. Crazy AF. I AM diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder. Which is a mix between bi-polar and schizophrenia. That is just one of my many diagnoses. ADD, Manic-Depressive, etc are among the others.
I was trying to lighten the mood moron. You apparently haven't dealt with these things. Sometimes one has to joke about things that are hard to talk about. I wasn't gloating, it was a joke. Can you take a joke? Apparently not.
I'm 24 and have had to deal with mental health since I was molested by a faggot at the age of 5. Don't tell me what I can and can't say about mental health or suicide. I will say whatever the fukk I want. It's called THE WILL TO CHOOSE. I have been through hell and back too many times to keep track of. Jus keep your stupidity and moronic comments to yourself if they involve me please.
Also, if you can't handle how badass I am, then don't read my post. There's a scroll on the mouse for a reason. It's for those who are less than me.
Btw, I'm not your fucking pal. Though I love your negativity towards sarcasm, we're most definitely NOT friends. I <3 HATERS!!
Sorry to those I've offended. Was trying to lighten the mood. Some people can't handle it, it seems, but it is what it is.
This is SFA, don't be posting jokes here. Stop bringing your personal problems here also, if you wanna spill your problems, talk to a counselor/therapist. Or simply go PS ranting. I don't wanna hear anymore of it here unless it is actually on topic. I don't care at all about your "bad-assery", nor does anyone else.
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I agree with you, it is really a permanent solution to what is most likely a temporary problem.
nodnarbusn
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Where better to post a joke? Helps lighten the mood (for those who don't have a redwood tree shoved up their ass).
And yes I do have multiple personalities, though I am not diagnosed with it, I have had 3 other personalities talk to me in a mirror while I had no control over what was being said or over the movement of my body. Crazy AF. I AM diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder. Which is a mix between bi-polar and schizophrenia. That is just one of my many diagnoses. ADD, Manic-Depressive, etc are among the others.
I was trying to lighten the mood moron. You apparently haven't dealt with these things. Sometimes one has to joke about things that are hard to talk about. I wasn't gloating, it was a joke. Can you take a joke? Apparently not.
I'm 24 and have had to deal with mental health since I was molested by a faggot at the age of 5. Don't tell me what I can and can't say about mental health or suicide. I will say whatever the fukk I want. It's called THE WILL TO CHOOSE. I have been through hell and back too many times to keep track of. Jus keep your stupidity and moronic comments to yourself if they involve me please.
Also, if you can't handle how badass I am, then don't read my post. There's a scroll on the mouse for a reason. It's for those who are less than me.
Btw, I'm not your fucking pal. Though I love your negativity towards sarcasm, we're most definitely NOT friends. I <3 HATERS!!
Sorry to those I've offended. Was trying to lighten the mood. Some people can't handle it, it seems, but it is what it is.
Add narcissist with delusions of granduer to your bragging list of mental health issues. Id love for you to go to the doctor and see if he agrees with your MPD/DID self diagnosis since there are arguably a small handful to NO real recorded cases. Its the perfect claim for someone struggling for attention.
Don't seem to crazy to me, just someone who is thriving for attention. If you weren't I personally think one of your nine attempts would have been a little more effective. So once again, good luck on number 10 pal.
Back OT I agree with suicide to an extent. If your life really is that bad I believe it should be your choice to participate or not! The issue if it being selfish is valid but the more I think about someone in the mindset of wanting to end it all the less signifigant someone else having to deal with grieving is. My biggest issue with suicide is with how quick some are to jump to it with little to no attempt to work things out. Hearing about young adults and children offing themselves breaks my heart. In most any case and situation things can and will get better.
My bad, g.
Suicide is a very personal thing and even more so to the individual struggling with it. Those who have not attempted it or had such thoughts are less likely to understand or relate to it.
It is a personal thing to me, too. I'm not oblivious to it, hence why it is offending. I don't go spewing my past problems though, or joke around with it on a serious thread. Let's keep it serious here, and around the topic.
