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Reporting Soren as instructed by Entrr

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Scammer's profile link: http://www.sythe.org/members/442014-soren.html

Explanation of the trade: I made a thread in the dicing section of the forums, titling my thread '$5 to the first reply' as in 'Betting $5 to the first reply'. I assumed anyone with proper competence in comprehending grammar would understand. http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?p=14813793#post14813793

How they scammed: Soren(see profile link above), posted on my thread with a roll, and rolled less than me. Meaning I won. The user then added me on skype as I requested through PM only to tell me he wasn't going to pay because I didn't title my thread "properly", saying he assumed my thread was that of a giveaway. My title didn't have the words FREE or GIVEAWAY in it, therefore the only logical explanation is that it is a bet for $5. Yet the user chose to roll on my thread.

Sythe PM picture: http://i.imgur.com/10RvbjV.jpg

Skype profile ID & conversation pictures: See above for Skype profile ID.

Other relevant trade screenshots: There is no trade, it was a dicing bet for $5.

User is simply refusing to pay up.
 
In my defense, anyone who's ever done a giveaway in this section has had the words 'giveaway' or 'free' in the title. Mine does not.

It stands clear that the thread isn't a giveaway as nothing about a giveaway or something being given away for free was specified ANYWHERE in the title or within the thread.
 
If you went to a gambling website, and played against someone who's offer was titled "$5000 to the first roller", would you, as they say; "YOLO" and roll, thinking you're given a chance at getting $5000 for free?

You end up losing, and you've now lost $5000.

My title is pretty much 'I am betting $5 to the first reply', without the 'I am betting' part, because the section and what it is used for speaks for itself.

EDIT:

Is it really that far fetched that I am to believe there is at least a miniscule amount of people who'd understand this from my perspective?
 
Shin said:
Based on the location of the thread and how you set it up, I'd say Soren owes you $5.

I don't see what's unclear. Had he not rolled in the original post I may have thought differently, but that's not the case here.
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This is exactly what I am talking about. So many people are ready to jump the bandwagon because of what they believe to be the case, not what is contrary to the belief.
 
Didn't want to make a report over $5 in the first place, but seeing as I was instructed on doing so, that is what I did.

What's the verdict?
 
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Shin has reported a private message.

Reason:
http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1853139-reporting-soren-instructed-entrr.html
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Private Message (Sender: Soren) (ID: 8447203)
Shin said:
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Soren said:
how do i reply to that thread? its not letting me, and as for why i rolled, the title makes it completely seem like a giveaway, and the majority of the people on the thread agree, i rolled because Zogre was first reply and asked 'Did I win' and lolaccounts replied saying 'no you gotta roll' its obvious here that Zogre thinks its a giveaway and lolaccounts never clarifies its a bet, so im thinking ok, zogre was the first to reply so he wins but he just has to roll higher than 4. at this point i was still confused (u can see by 'Wat' next to my roll) and as zogre didnt roll yet i thought i would, so i roll for fun thinking it would be irrelevant anyway, as zogre was the first to reply then was told to roll. After that i get a pm from him telling me to add him on skype which i did, told him i didnt want the $5 (thinking its a giveaway) and he told me 'Pay up or ur getting banned' and i was still in wtf mode at that point and asked him to pm a mod to confirm(i never 'refused' to pay him, just asked for a mods opinion, now superman agrees with me, you agree with him, now what) then he gives a biased view to entrr and then posts here.. It's pretty obvious the majority of the people in that thread thought it was a giveaway since it literally followed 0 of the rules you need to follow to make a bet... http://www.sythe.org/dice-competitions/1613862-dicing-rules-updated-12-8-13-sythe.html
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I don't mean to insinuate, but with such a small roll by him I don't think your intentions of rolling were simply "for fun".

As for posting in the section, you only need to post a thread and it will be appended to the report accordingly.

-Shin
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thats the thing, i assumed if he was making a bet he would of said hes making a bet then wait for someone else to roll. but he straight up rolled in the op thats why i thought u just gotta beat him to win $5 i even said 'Wat' next to my roll as i didnt even get what was going on. as for the 'for fun' intentions, i don't have paypal, my skrill is locked and i dont have an account on rs anymore so even if I 'won' and he wanted to pay me $5 i wouldnt have any way to collect and again would have told him to keep it, regardless of the roll, the majority of people were thinking it was a giveaway..
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Assumptions are bad for business.

Based on what you've said, you rolled with the intention to win $5, which is exactly what the thread was intended for. Thank you for your honesty.

You should speak with them and see if you can work something out.
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wait what am i missing something? win $5 as in hes giving $5 which is the whole point of the report as nobody understood if it was a giveaway or a bet
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Meaning you thought if you rolled higher than him you would win $5, and if you rolled lower you would owe him $5.
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i dont think thats what the word giveaway means.. as in he said '$5 to the first reply' meaning he's giving away $5 to whoever can roll higher than him.. ur not risking anything. thats also what the majority of people who posted on the thread was thinking
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Hmm. I suppose I didn't think of it that way.
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so what now? we wait for another mods opinion?
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Amethyst said:
Rules:
  • State your amount and conditions in your post, there's an example at the bottom of this post.
  • Conditions are posted here, not agreed on Skype.
  • To accept a bet, you must quote the post you're accepting and post "I accept, X$" and roll. The other party should in turn quote them and roll.
  • NO trolling or joking, go to the Spam Forum.
  • You cannot vouch for dice payouts.
  • As a participant in dicing, you are required to make timely payments.
  • If a payment method is stated, you must have the required funds available for that payment method in order to dice.
  • If you have an outstanding bet, you may not dice others until the debt is paid.
  • When calling a dice duel, the first person to roll is the only one to count, unless specified otherwise by the person proposing the dice duel.[/indent]
  • [SUP]Failure to comply with the rules above may result in a TwC, forum ban, or permanent ban.[/SUP]
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