[Denied] Disallow DNT's from being in the sythe discord server altogether

President · Jan 4, 2023

Hi friends

Motivation: Attempting to trade while DNT

Protect DNT people against themselves and protect the community against DNT users with malicious intent

Have a nice day

Yoshiki · Jan 4, 2023

I support this for the trading server, I do not support this for the community server. If they are allowed to use the site with market restrictions, I believe they should be able to use the community server.

ChellBell · Jan 4, 2023

The discord is always referred to as the spam discord.. people talk about scam quitting all the time in it (jokingly) as well as many other things that are against sythe rules.

Keep it the way it is but enforce the rules for everyone not just 1 person. If people can get away with those things without repercussions, he shouldn’t have been banned.

Pikachu · Jan 5, 2023

discord already dead why kill it off more

Wortel · Jan 5, 2023

Really on the fence with this one so I’ll remain indecisive. Interesting suggestion though, but I also agree with @Pikachu. I guess @Yoshiki his alternative is best but it wouldn’t have mattered in the example you used for the suggestion. Which indeed was a silly mistake and even a worse ruling, though not an incorrect one.

Zora · Jan 17, 2023

Yoshiki said: ↑

I support this for the trading server, I do not support this for the community server. If they are allowed to use the site with market restrictions, I believe they should be able to use the community server.
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agreed

BlackBlasses · Jan 17, 2023

Hello,

"Protect DNT people against themselves and protect the community against DNT users with malicious intent"
1) This rarely happens and ultimately it's their responsibility.
2) Despite many memes, Sythe Community and Sythe Observing server have a very high moderation level and people are quick to tag a staff member.

Your suggestion doesn't differentiate between the two servers. Given that DNT users are not able to view any market channels in the Observing Server and that your motivation for this suggestion was a user attempting to trade in the Community Server, I will assume that this suggestion is about the Community Server.

By Disallowing DNT's from being in the sythe discord server altogether (Thread title), you demotivate any DNT users to verify, because as "unverified", they are at least allowed to view the #news and the #trade-alert channel. Removing this ability is not desired neither by sythe staff, nor by DNT users.
We could restrict DNT users to the same level we restrict unverified users, or just remove their ability to talk (read only), however, I don't see it being in line with the following philosophy / logic:

Sythe said: ↑

DNT encourages people to pardon because they can reintegrate first into the community -- regaining limited access to their account provides an on-going incentive to repay.

DNT acknowledges that people make mistakes and can change.

DNT acknowledges that people should not be continually punished for past mistakes; that punishment is finite and once served should not be served again for the same event (double jeopardy)

DNT allows the community spirit to continue while debts are being repaid.

DNT means that friend groups are not split up (for example one your friends is banned) thus encouraging overall activity and better community cohesion. This will encourage new users to join and help to grow the site.

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In conclusion: Completely disallowing DNT users from being able to communicate in discussion-related channels is not in line with our DNT philosophy and it's quite rare to see a DNT user attempting to trade inside those channels, while this restriction would affect all DNT users.

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In case this suggestion doesn't differentiate between the two servers and because of what some staff members posted, let me address the Observing Server; We could kindly ask Dev Zach (SytheBot dev), to "Disallow DNT's from being in the sythe discord server altogether", by automatically kicking verified users, if they are DNT on sythe, or even skip the bot and do it manually (by daily purge of DNT users). This would, however, demotivate DNT users to verify. They are not able to view market channels anyway and I can't recall a user attempting to trade directly in the Observing Server.

Thank you for your suggestion, anyway. This one is just not viable, IMHO.

-BB

Red Fox · Jan 17, 2023

My ban was within ruling. However, I personally see it as I was personally targeted for this as the discord is literally referred as a spam discord by almost anyone. We use racial slurs and what not, saying we gonna scam quit, saying he stole this, he stole that. Taking it as the discord is not a spam discord, people are probably out here deleting their past comments from this lol. As Chellbell said reinforce the rule for everyone. Not just one person, in this case unfortunately that was me.

But I disagree too, I like hanging around on Sythe and while I believe it's a stupid ass ruling as you guys can see it was for a dollar and 50 cent, I guess rules is rules.

Either way, I wanna make my way in again on the Sythe community and being in the discord is defo motivating to see what's going on and to chat with people. Being banned from the discord removes a majority of the socialisation and here in my case, the motivation to return again.

Conclusion, I disagree as the community to chat on people with discord plays a part of returning to the community.

owned · Feb 2, 2023

BlackBlasses said: ↑

Hello,

"Protect DNT people against themselves and protect the community against DNT users with malicious intent"
1) This rarely happens and ultimately it's their responsibility.
2) Despite many memes, Sythe Community and Sythe Observing server have a very high moderation level and people are quick to tag a staff member.

Your suggestion doesn't differentiate between the two servers. Given that DNT users are not able to view any market channels in the Observing Server and that your motivation for this suggestion was a user attempting to trade in the Community Server, I will assume that this suggestion is about the Community Server.

By Disallowing DNT's from being in the sythe discord server altogether (Thread title), you demotivate any DNT users to verify, because as "unverified", they are at least allowed to view the #news and the #trade-alert channel. Removing this ability is not desired neither by sythe staff, nor by DNT users.
We could restrict DNT users to the same level we restrict unverified users, or just remove their ability to talk (read only), however, I don't see it being in line with the following philosophy / logic:

In conclusion: Completely disallowing DNT users from being able to communicate in discussion-related channels is not in line with our DNT philosophy and it's quite rare to see a DNT user attempting to trade inside those channels, while this restriction would affect all DNT users.

___

In case this suggestion doesn't differentiate between the two servers and because of what some staff members posted, let me address the Observing Server; We could kindly ask Dev Zach (SytheBot dev), to "Disallow DNT's from being in the sythe discord server altogether", by automatically kicking verified users, if they are DNT on sythe, or even skip the bot and do it manually (by daily purge of DNT users). This would, however, demotivate DNT users to verify. They are not able to view market channels anyway and I can't recall a user attempting to trade directly in the Observing Server.

Thank you for your suggestion, anyway. This one is just not viable, IMHO.

-BB
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Good suggestions, but this is extremely based and well thought, IMO. I’m on the same page as BB on this one.

MAGZ · Feb 2, 2023

Here’s a crazy idea. Why not just get rid f TWC & DNT all together and just ban the person until proven not guilty.

Saves a ton of time.

Delta Squad · Feb 3, 2023

MAGZ said: ↑

Here’s a crazy idea. Why not just get rid f TWC & DNT all together and just ban the person until proven not guilty.

Saves a ton of time.
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or..... just maybe.... like ive been saying for years STOP LETTING SCAMMERS COME BACK. how many people have they let come back just to scam quit again.. its fucking crazy.

Robiiiiin · Feb 3, 2023

Support as they just make the discord a joke anyway.

Maybe it'd be better if they all wasnt there.

Wolf · Feb 4, 2023

lets just ban everyone

Departure · Feb 4, 2023

Delta Squad said: ↑

or..... just maybe.... like ive been saying for years STOP LETTING SCAMMERS COME BACK. how many people have they let come back just to scam quit again.. its fucking crazy.
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What is the Ratio on previous DNT user who scam again. Do they pay back more than they scam the 2nd time as well?

Delta Squad · Feb 4, 2023

Departure said: ↑

What is the Ratio on previous DNT user who scam again. Do they pay back more than they scam the 2nd time as well?
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theres been a few well known people who were pardon for scamming just to come back and scam a even larger amount

Pikachu · Mar 5, 2023

We are going to deny this as members who are dnt's are still members of the community and in trading discord, they can only see the help channel.

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