[Denied] Minimum standard for vouches

I mean, I'm semi onboard with this. I do agree, there should be more detail or even a template to vouch. However, I also think this may deter lazy users from leaving vouches (not a huge deal) but a bigger problem, what would you do with the current state of peoples vouches? Would the old vouches be removed if they didn't meet the new critera, would they remain, if they remain how could you justify the fair play in that. Join date?

As I said, I'm semi onboard with this one, interested to see what others have to say as well.

 

Support, as long as this suggestion is limited to a minimum (so no long list of requirements to vouches, just some basic exclusions/inclusions, like who went first/size of trade).

To add a second argument: in case of fake vouching, the fake-vouchers will have to be more specific in what they have to prove in retrospect.

 

No support from me.

As with many other suggestions in the past, I agree with the intention and appreciate the logic behind the suggestion. I do agree and wish that vouches had more detail, but it just doesn't make sense.

With that said, some are purposefully vague with vouches as an added layer of protection against RWT bans. Others are purposefully short because they are busy, it's their personality, or they simply amass so many vouches that it doesn't make sense for them to write a novel on each.

I do not agree with forcing users to vouch in a specific way. If a user does not like the way a vouch was left, they're free to work that out with the party who left it. If someone is reviewing vouches to determine the trustworthiness of a buyer/seller, again, they're free to do their homework and contact whomever to further explore.

I don't believe it's Sythe's responsibility to manage that process. We aren't a dictatorship. More is less, less is more.
I actively trade on a number of other websites and none of those have vouch requirements either.

Let's be honest, hundreds and hundreds of transactions occur daily that are facilitated through Sythe. There would likely be an overwhelming amount of vouches left that don't meet standards that would monopolize staff's time to identify, infract, and revisit to ensure it was corrected.


Final thought. The only change I'd support is requiring the vouch to entail at least a basic description of the trade details. IE - "Bought gp thanks" "Sold RS account" "Did services for me ty"
As it stands now, there's no requirement at all, that I could find. You quoted this vouch, "the best <3" - that one doesn't fly IMO.

 

No support,

As suggested in the past, you can't go and force individuals to vouch a certain way. Even if you did, the moderators would have to go through every vouch and tag it. It's just not really feasible.. I agree that you should include more information but in all reality I would personally rather leave a few words rather than follow a template. Because I know if there was a template I would just never leave vouches.

 

Not necessary honestly. As long as a vouch isn't fake then I don't see anything wrong with it being short and sweet.

 

I think vouches are a subjective number. There are members with tons of vouches who I wouldn't trust, and people with not a lot of vouches who I would trust. I think implementing a new rule regarding vouches isn't needed. It also would require Sythe staff to go through each thread and delete all the shit ones.

 

This, and also.. it will "demotivate" a lot of people to leave a vouch

 

I agree with the others, Its hard enough to get customers to sign up for the site and leave a vouch anyways, ask them to leave a quality vouch? my customers will just flame me instead.

 

No support due to the fact that it's way to hard get the customers to do so.

Also i think customers should do research when looking at vouches if looking at vouches actually is needed.

 

Support because i am satisfied with the number of vouches i already have and want to make sure no newcomers can compete

 

Agreed. If there was some sort of auto-generated template for every post in that forum I think this could be easily achieved, but I'm not sure that's possible with our current XenForo configurations. We'd talked to Matthew about something like this for other forum uses in the past (and I believe it was built?) but remains unimplemented.

For example:

Code:

Who went first:
How much was transacted:

 

Honestly if it were me, it would prevent me from leaving a vouch most times, call me lazy if you want but just let me leave my short vouch. Not only that, but then you would have staff that would have to babysit vouch threads to make sure every single vouch was posted correctly.

 

at the end of the day, i would say vouches can be compared to feedback, i.e. a vouch means positive feedback.

if you are receiving a vouch would like the vouchee to give a more specific vouch to prove your trustworthiness, that responsibility currently lies with to yourself to ask them

this suggestion really is an ode to teaching newcomers how to spot scammers, how to not get impostored, and in this case how to tell if someone's vouches are of good quality etc etc