A suggestion I proposed privately to staff long ago

I already know this ones going to be interesting.

A long time ago I was having a lot of problems with impostors, so I spoke to Video and several other staff at the time to discuss what I could do.

We were debating the morals of using a skype closing service to remove impostors, the staff at the time seemed in favor of allowing it.

I personally would like Skype closing services to be allowed on Sythe for SKYPE IMPOSTORS ONLY, NOT EVERYONE!!!, Yes many of them violate current rules, many involve social engineering.

I am not suggesting we open a "skype closing service" board or anything, I just don't want banned if I pay $30 to remove my skype impostors for being involved in "social engineering" or some crap.

No I have never used one.

Let me run a few things by you guys:

So, I currently have 11, YES ELEVEN active impostors between my company skype & my personal skype, some of these skypes even appear above my real one.

A few things these impostors have cost me:
-I cannot MM, AT ALL.
-I am added to over 3-4 group conversations each day(seriously), where the impostors try to trick me into helping them pull a 3 way impostor scam.
-I am constantly hearing about livechats and other people on my skype who get scammed by the impostors.
-I can no longer safely send a PM to anyone, or I have to write a book about how careful they have to be.
-I am starting to get very paranoid frankly, every PM I send now I feel unsafe like I'm part of a scheme, It takes me 2 minutes to type a full, iron clad PM every single time.


I would like Sythe staff to allow skype closing services for SKYPE IMPOSTORS ONLY.

Someone trying to close a normal user would suffer a ban/the same consequences as normal.

Most skype closing services will close any skype for $5-$10, many offer bulk services where u can close like 10 skypes for $30.

This would allow us gold site owners to remove impostors from our hair, once a skype is closed it CANT be made again and will eventually vanish from the search result list, thus removing the impostor problem forever.

I personally would be more than happy to pay $30 to remove my impostors because I want to protect my customers and stop having to deal with 3-4 group chats a day and my concern for PM's.


What's everyone's thoughts here? Please keep in mind this would ONLY be allowed for closing skype impostors.

 

Can't they close your account?

I'm confused.

Why would anyone want to risk their own account getting closed?

 

Well wouldn't this mean you can already spend the money to close the Skype imposters' accounts? Little confused why this would have to go through Sythe suggestions.

 

If someone with the necessary skill set wanted to, yes.

2fa'd skypes and more verified skype accounts I think are harder to close.

I know you wont remember this Sonia but a few years ago I was having a problem where someone was paying someone to social engineer my skypes, I had over 15 different skypes closed.

Skype support is dreadful, I do think that the more verified ur skype is though the harder it is to close.

 

Atm Social engineering is blanket illegal, since every single skype closing service uses SE to close skypes, its a bannable offence to do so currently.

I want sythe to allow people to go to skype closing services to have their impostors closed is all I'm asking.

 

Thoughts @FireZ @video @SellerMan @Astro @n4n0

I remember several staff being supportive, some others had issues with it.

I personally would love to be able to legally get rid of these scamming scumbags.

Would like to hear staff thoughts.

 

Didn't know it was a bannable offense. In that case, sure. If it seemed some staff was on board before, I don't see why you couldn't get them on board now. Imposter Skypes are completely obvious in their names, so it wouldn't be hard to prove it when wanting to close accounts x y and z. I don't know enough though, so I'll stick around to see what other people say.

Question: do you just want the approval to be allowed to do it in general or when decided to use services to remove accounts x y and z, would you run it through staff for case-by-case approval?

 

That's up to the community.

We could do case by case like anti scamming and get staff approval.

Or we can just cut staff out of the loop and do it ourselves.

 

Don't use Skype then

Whoa problem solved

 

If you close the impostor Skype accounts can't they just make new ones?...

 

When I added you on Skype, I was wondering if it was an impostor or not, because you have a lot of impostors and some of them looks pretty convincing.

I support the suggestion but, as @TeamTofu said, what would prevent them from creating new Skypes?

 

This still falls under a blackhat/greyhat blanket, and one of the reasons stuff like this isn't allowed on sythe (afaik) is due to legal implications. I could be wrong, however.

Ultimately if this were to be allowed, the only person who could approve it would be @Sythe himself.

I personally don't support it, could open the doors for abuse in the long run.

 

This. But I also would support allowing people to do that. Don't really see a problem with it.

 

I like the idea personally but fear that people will try to get non impostor skypes closed for whatever reason which is scary.

 

Just curious, what is the recommended alternative? Aside from Sythe PMs?

A secure alternative for near real-time messaging? It seems as though Skype is, by far, the most popular choice.

 

Use the discord then, also no support

 

No support. It could cause legal issues. Black hat is black hat, regardless if malicious or not.

 

Once a skype name has been closed, its perm unavailable.

The account after being closed is removed off search results after a (3) months I believe.

Roary... Half a dozen people a day+ probably get scammed by my impostors, its me trying to PROTECT THEM.

Nobodys going to stop using skype lol.

Once a skype name has been closed, its perm unavailable.

The account after being closed is removed off search results after a (3) months I believe.

This is just dumb.

Like I'm going to lose hundreds of customers because no-one uses shit ass discord in the marketplace.

No.

"legal issues" such as???

Social Engineering isn't even classified as blackhat on 90% of forums, its only sythes Nazi mind set that has it classed as blackhat, just like "e-whoring" is blackhat, fucking stupid.


I don't know why people have such a negative view on it, yes its scummy and its someone manipulating someone else, I don't like people who do it, but for a good cause like this I'm willing to overlook that.

Especially if it protects people and doesn't cost anyone but me a dime.

 

C'mon Roary, Bus is usually off the mark a good amount but when you make so many attempts you get an occasional hit which he's reached here. I don't hold much of an opinion either way on the suggestion itself but a large % of the user base uses skype for their transactions and simply not using skype isn't feasible for a business who is seeking to be competitive.

 

Yeah, I mean new accounts with other names.