God does not exist.

[normalcy]

Happiness? Fortune? Self-worth? Not being slave to a book of contradictory ideas?

I'll hit mostly on Christianity because I don't have deep knowledge in many other religions.

Happiness? A majority of Christians are happy.

Fortune? Do you mean Catholicism or Christianity in general? If the latter, I'd have to disagree. It's not all about money unless you are Catholic.

Self-worth? Plenty of Christians are self-worthy.

Slave to a book? Most Christians don't read the Bible for hours on end. Muslims might read the Quran all day, but in general, Christians aren't book slave shut-ins.

 

[Deacon Frost]

There is no way to prove that God does or doesn't exist, which is why i chose to remain agnostic. Sure, you can prove many religions wrong, but it still does not prove that there is no intelligent being that created the earth.

At least you're not theist.

The thing about that, however, is there is more reason to deny God than there is to accept Him. Think about a teeter totter, on one end is a fat kid (atheist), on the other is a skinny kid(theist), and in the middle is everyone else.

There is more reason to not believe in an invisible teapot that revolves around the moon than there is to believe it. So are you simply going to say 'Until there is 100% evidence to show that there is not one, I will not decide.'?

 

[lalmvpkobe]

Happiness? Fortune? Self-worth? Not being slave to a book of contradictory ideas?

What are all those things but foolish ideas if you cease to exist? You fail to realize those things and life as you understand it is worthless based on you ideaology of non -existance after death.



to everyone else on this thread that is against God and believe in bigbang- you guys are plain stupid and fail to realize that your own beleifs are easier to disprove then God due to him being able to exist outside of reason and logic but that can not be said of your theories fools i tell you.

Sythe is the only true intellecutual that has posted on this thread and the only one that has a brain that is logicial . (despite him having no understanding what nonexistance is)

 

I'll hit mostly on Christianity because I don't have deep knowledge in many other religions.

Happiness? A majority of Christians are happy.

Then they are not Christians. Original sin maintains that humans are bad and can only be saved through slavish worship of god. It would be a sin to to be happy when one is being bad, if one is a Christian. And if one is born bad and can never be good until he dies, then it follows happiness is denied. Correct me if I am wrong here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Man

Fortune? Do you mean Catholicism or Christianity in general? If the latter, I'd have to disagree. It's not all about money unless you are Catholic.

Matthew 19:21

And I quote (from the King James Bible):

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Self-worth? Plenty of Christians are self-worthy.

Again, not christians. Original sin. Unworthiness to kiss the feat of your master, etc.

Slave to a book? Most Christians don't read the Bible for hours on end. Muslims might read the Quran all day, but in general, Christians aren't book slave shut-ins.

I would suggest most 'christians' dont read the bible at all.

This one belongs in my 'The world is insane' thread.

Sythe is the only true intellecutual that has posted on this thread and the only one that has a brain that is logicial . (despite him having no understanding what nonexistance is)

Do enlighten me. What is non-existence?

Incidentally, the supporters of the claim 'god exists' are yet to provide evidence to support said claim. This should be simple, should it not?

 

[normalcy]

I'm not saying those Christians are correct in their practices/beliefs. That's the generalized modern-day Christian which is what I thought the point of your post was.

 

[Deacon Frost]

What are all those things but foolish ideas if you cease to exist? You fail to realize those things and life as you understand it is worthless based on you ideaology of non -existance after death.

You're slinging opinion around in a reason based thread. You're claiming that our being is pointless when you no nothing of our being. Stop, you pest.

to everyone else on this thread that is against God and believe in bigbang- you guys are plain stupid and fail to realize that your own beleifs are easier to disprove then God due to him being able to exist outside of reason and logic but that can not be said of your theories fools i tell you.

Yes, God does exist outside of reason and logic. Everything you magically come up with exists in a fantasy world inside your own mind. I'm not going to start worshipping your imagination simply because it's creative and thorough, so why are you worshipping the imagination of people from centuries ago?

Sythe is the only true intellecutual that has posted on this thread and the only one that has a brain that is logicial . (despite him having no understanding what nonexistance is)

Stop sucking up without knowing anything, or even being able to spell. You have no right to judge who is intellectual and who is not as you're not up to par with our level of thinking. I don't think YOU understand what non-existence is.

Life, with eternal life, is the most pointless as it means that your current life has no meaning, it is merely a test to get you ready for eternal life.

Life, without eternal life, is comforting, rewarding, and real. You do things for other people, you smile, you have fun, you enjoy living. You don't just live to serve a random deity.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

existence is the world of which we are aware through our senses and persists independently without them.The first fact is the fact of our existence. It cannot be validated with positive proof, and is inherent in every analysis. As a demonstration of its self-evident a priori nature, a person objecting to this essential truth cannot set a standard of proof without implicitly accepting their existence as a premises.Materialism holds that the only thing that exists is matter; that all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions.

 

[Deacon Frost]

Just because you can steal from wikipedia, does not mean you know what you're talking about.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

Yes, God does exist outside of reason and logic. Everything you magically come up with exists in a fantasy world inside your own mind. I'm not going to start worshipping your imagination simply because it's creative and thorough, so why are you worshipping the imagination of people from centuries ago?

nice counter argument you intellectual.


Stop sucking up without knowing anything, or even being able to spell. You have no right to judge who is intellectual and who is not as you're not up to par with our level of thinking. I don't think YOU understand what non-existence is.
If i was on your level of thinking i would be an idiot. YOU are trying to disprove God when your own ideoalogy can be rationally disproved.

Life, with eternal life, is the most pointless as it means that your current life has no meaning, it is merely a test to get you ready for eternal life.

Im pretty sure a test qualifiys as a point. Pointless would be "living your life" just to die and lose conciousness.


Life, without eternal life, is comforting, rewarding, and real. You do things for other people, you smile, you have fun, you enjoy living. You don't just live to serve a random deity.

Like i have said before idiot all of those things are invalid in a world where you cease conciouness thinking and existance after death.

 

[pl0x maauul]

Hey guys I've found god, in fact there is proof too. She actually is omnipotent, and I'll be damned and go meet satan if I say no to that ass.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

-Yes, God does exist outside of reason and logic. Everything you magically come up with exists in a fantasy world inside your own mind. I'm not going to start worshipping your imagination simply because it's creative and thorough, so why are you worshipping the imagination of people from centuries ago?

nice counter argument you intellectual.


-Stop sucking up without knowing anything, or even being able to spell. You have no right to judge who is intellectual and who is not as you're not up to par with our level of thinking. I don't think YOU understand what non-existence is.
If i was on your level of thinking i would be an idiot. YOU are trying to disprove God when your own ideoalogy can be rationally disproved.

-Life, with eternal life, is the most pointless as it means that your current life has no meaning, it is merely a test to get you ready for eternal life.

Im pretty sure a test qualifiys as a point. Pointless would be "living your life" just to die and lose conciousness.


-Life, without eternal life, is comforting, rewarding, and real. You do things for other people, you smile, you have fun, you enjoy living. You don't just live to serve a random deity

Like i have said before idiot all of those things are invalid in a world where you cease conciouness thinking and existance after death.

 

[Deacon Frost]

Like i have said before idiot all of those things are invalid in a world where you cease conciouness thinking and existance after death.

How are they invalid?

Do you know what you're talking about yet? No way, you didn't even spell 'consciousness' or 'existence' correctly.

Why are they invalid?

Bloody hell, you give me a headache.

 

[pl0x maauul]

Hey hey hey, your going to hell for ignoring her. She's omnipotent and, and has one hell of a temper. You should see her with that whip.

^ If you think I'm spamming, well really this whole conversation is a spam. Maybe there is god, maybe there isn't. Who are you to tell anyone else that. It's for everyone to make up their own mind. My personal belief is that, God is an idea people use to inspire hope, strength, ideals, love, ect. It doesn't matter if he's real or not, his/her function is the same.

I think all that God created the world in 7 days, is just part of a very large metaphor. Along with all the other things 'God' is supposedly responsible for.

 

[pl0x maauul]

How are they invalid?

Do you know what you're talking about yet? No way, you didn't even spell 'consciousness' or 'existence' correctly.

Why are they invalid?

Bloody hell, you give me a headache.

Your all giving me a headache. No one gives a damn whether God exists or not. Also who really cares if he spelt it wrong. It just shows how passionately he types.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

-Yes, God does exist outside of reason and logic. Everything you magically come up with exists in a fantasy world inside your own mind. I'm not going to start worshipping your imagination simply because it's creative and thorough, so why are you worshipping the imagination of people from centuries ago?

nice counter argument you intellectual.


-Stop sucking up without knowing anything, or even being able to spell. You have no right to judge who is intellectual and who is not as you're not up to par with our level of thinking. I don't think YOU understand what non-existence is.
If i was on your level of thinking i would be an idiot. YOU are trying to disprove God when your own ideology can be rationally disproved.

-Life, with eternal life, is the most pointless as it means that your current life has no meaning, it is merely a test to get you ready for eternal life.

Im pretty sure a test qualifiys as a point. Pointless would be "living your life" just to die and lose consciousness.


-Life, without eternal life, is comforting, rewarding, and real. You do things for other people, you smile, you have fun, you enjoy living. You don't just live to serve a random deity

Like i have said before idiot all of those things are invalid in a world where you cease consciousness thinking and existence after death.

 

[raigeki]

I'll hit mostly on Christianity because I don't have deep knowledge in many other religions.

Happiness? A majority of Christians are happy.

Fortune? Do you mean Catholicism or Christianity in general? If the latter, I'd have to disagree. It's not all about money unless you are Catholic.

Self-worth? Plenty of Christians are self-worthy.

Slave to a book? Most Christians don't read the Bible for hours on end. Muslims might read the Quran all day, but in general, Christians aren't book slave shut-ins.

and a majority of child molesters are Christians
but hey, it works for them.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

and a majority of child molesters are Christians
but hey, it works for them.

oohhh nice generalization thats a fallacy fucker jk but dont post stupid shit without evidence

 

[Deacon Frost]

nice counter argument you intellectual.

Yes, yes it was.

If i was on your level of thinking i would be an idiot. YOU are trying to disprove God when your own ideology can be rationally disproved.

Only people who have no clue what they're talking about attack others like that when in a discussion. You're showing your true low level of intelligence by attacking me.

If my rational 'ideology' can be 'rationally disproved', I welcome your attempt. Just don't stub your toe.

Im pretty sure a test qualifiys as a point. Pointless would be "living your life" just to die and lose consciousness.

Just because you assign your life with a point doesn't mean you can say the life of others is pointless. I don't say your life is pointless? So what if the end is always death? The point of life is to live. That's the only valid point.

Again, you don't understand my viewpoint, or the stance I have in life. Your assumptions are based on your own opinionated beliefs. What ever happened to walking in another man's shoes?

Like i have said before idiot all of those things are invalid in a world where you cease consciousness thinking and existence after death.

Again, you fucking moron, the only reason you attack my level of intelligence is because you have nothing else to debate with. I've provided you with plenty of data to counter-attack, but all you can do is insult me, and question my reason without any logic or reason of your own.

Please stop posting unless you're going to contribute to this thread, elsewise, I've already requested a forum ban so we can continue our discussion without holding your hand and guiding you on how to debate properly.

oohhh nice generalization thats a fallacy fucker jk but dont post stupid shit without evidence

Says the guy who believes in God.

 

[pl0x maauul]

YOUR ALL WRONG. God is my avatar, and her whip sure does make her omnipotent. And yeah the majority of child molesters are human would be a more accurate generalization. Even so, wild bears have been known to take children into their home.

IS IT REALLY OUR PLACE TO SAY PEDOPHILIA IS WRONG? For all we know.. If there is a god.. He meant for us to do it. He hasn't exactly come along and said it's wrong has he? I'm pretty sure none of the 142 commandments mention it right.

 

[lalmvpkobe]

no propblem deacon how do you belive the universe was created?? hmmm? big bang?