Obama's Speech on Education

[juvenilepunk]

How exactly did you miss the propoganda? It was quite clear.

1. Guilt trips - "If you give up in school you give up on your country"
2. "You're all the same...yada yada yada...You need to be just like everyone else and do good in school" - Clearly a stepping stone towards socialism/communism
3. He referenced revolutionary ideas a number of times, comparing our generation to those of the revolutionaries in American history. That being said, the underlying message could be interpreted as him wanting a social "revolution" or change, which is a fundamental principle among Democrats.
4. This speech had been reworked a number of times already, with some of the "controversial" stuff being edited out.

All that being said, it is evident that the media is ultimately responsible for all this hoopla. If you were watching msnbc like myself, you would have heard that Republicans had not made an official statement about the speech yet and were waiting until afterward. So if we rule out Republicans for the cause, we can assume the media is at fault here.

How is number three a sign of propaganda? Of course you are going to edit stuff out that can bring up controversy. Any person democrat or republican is going to do that.

 

[Inventor]

MSNBC is garbage.. I only watch CBS and even that is quite usually garbage.

I'm tired of the news in general. Nothing is unbiased these days.

This speech was just continually process garbage that could be been something worth while.

 

[R33l2r3al]

How is number three a sign of propaganda? Of course you are going to edit stuff out that can bring up controversy. Any person democrat or republican is going to do that.

That was number 4, and I was simply stating why it was such a bid deal up until the speech. (That's what the thread asks) It was suspected that the entire speech would be "socialist propaganda" and such.

 

[R33l2r3al]

MSNBC is garbage.. I only watch CBS and even that is quite usually garbage.

I'm tired of the news in general. Nothing is unbiased these days.

This speech was just continually process garbage that could be been something worth while.

Garbage or not, it is not a biased opinion when talking about facts. The Republicans did NOT release any formal statement about the speech. It was ultimately the own medias doing, as it is quite often.

 

[TJ]

It was a huge disappointment. Obama stammered quite a bit. He went on to say that we shouldn't be focused on professional athletics, and brought up two idols. One of the people we should idolize is a professional basketball player, and he mispronounced the other individual's name.

Disappointing indeed.

Because athletes contribute little to nothing to society, besides money (a small portion of what they make, at that). Why not become something that actually helps people like a scientist, doctor, lawyer, etc...hell, even a factory worker contributes more than a football player.

Although I like Obama, this speech bored me immensely. It was just him talking about everything we've known and be told our entire lives (at least in my case).

It was fairly useless in my opinion. I doubt it inspired one person to stay in school that didn't want to.

It also probably cost us a ton in tax dollars to listen to.. =/

Its just like the ads against drugs and alcohol..it could have had a huge difference in a childs life, and it might not have..we just don't know.

 

[TJ]

I know that and agree, I was showing how moronic his mistake was (saying that a professional athletics career path generally isn't realistic, then exemplifying a professional athlete.)

Because the number of people that actually want to become a professional athlete overwhelm the number that actually does..i dont see a problem with that statement at all. He is stating the truth.

 

[Evon]

It wasn't socialist propaganda at all. Like inventor said, it's just the same things we've been told our entire lives, being reiterated by the president. It was a bit boring, too.

 

[R33l2r3al]

It wasn't socialist propaganda at all. Like inventor said, it's just the same things we've been told our entire lives, being reiterated by the president. It was a bit boring, too.

You can argue this after you disprove my statement. I am positive the speech had socialist undertones.

 

[Feren Silver]

Yeah, our state superintendent thinks that Obama is the devil, but we were allowed to 'watch' the video.

However, the video was shown at 2:00 - 2:20, when all the upper class are gone. Not to mention the video was shown the last twenty minutes of school and the permission slips were handed out last thing on a three day weekend. So about 400 of the 2,200 kids actually saw the video.

I have it Tivo'd and I'm going to watch it after soccer today.

 

[Inventor]

Garbage or not, it is not a biased opinion when talking about facts. The Republicans did NOT release any formal statement about the speech. It was ultimately the own medias doing, as it is quite often.

This is true. I'm just speaking in general.

I could care less about either party's opinion on the speech

That's just political poop that I could care less about.

 

[juvenilepunk]

Yeah, our state superintendent thinks that Obama is the devil, but we were allowed to 'watch' the video.

However, the video was shown at 2:00 - 2:20, when all the upper class are gone. Not to mention the video was shown the last twenty minutes of school and the permission slips were handed out last thing on a three day weekend. So about 400 of the 2,200 kids actually saw the video.

I have it Tivo'd and I'm going to watch it after soccer today.

You needed a permission slip to watch the President speak?

 

[Lawliet]

I'm in a public school and watching it.
Obama needs to shut the fuck up.
Who gives a fuck.
he is just sucking up, for all his fucking bad choices.
He sucks...
But he is our leader...
so whatever

COUGH COUGH Not leader but ya kno...

your either racist or dumb... idk how obama got to be president with all of the dumb ass racist fuckers that live in america that talk bad about him because hes black or because you think hes doing something wrong... if you could do it better then get your sorry ass on the podium and make somethin happen. bet money you couldnt do shit.


god damn the dumb ass people here on sythe, it makes me want toi come to thier house and beat thier shit in for being so stupid, but i guess its not thier fault, its thier poor ass non working lazy parents.

 

[R33l2r3al]

your either racist or dumb... idk how obama got to be president with all of the dumb ass racist fuckers that live in america that talk bad about him because hes black or because you think hes doing something wrong... if you could do it better then get your sorry ass on the podium and make somethin happen. bet money you couldnt do shit.


god damn the dumb ass people here on sythe, it makes me want toi come to thier house and beat thier shit in for being so stupid, but i guess its not thier fault, its thier poor ass non working lazy parents.

You call us dumb, yet his approval rating is officially under 50% meaning that people in his own party don't like him anymore either. Please try to make an educated post next time...

That being said, I don't agree with what the other guy said either. I just didn't take it upon myself to call him dumb or insult his family.

 

[Hammerburst]

your either racist or dumb... idk how obama got to be president with all of the dumb ass racist fuckers that live in america that talk bad about him because hes black or because you think hes doing something wrong... if you could do it better then get your sorry ass on the podium and make somethin happen. bet money you couldnt do shit.


god damn the dumb ass people here on sythe, it makes me want toi come to thier house and beat thier shit in for being so stupid, but i guess its not thier fault, its thier poor ass non working lazy parents.

Name one thing Obama has done Besides take trips,Speak too other world-leaders. (Must benefit EVERYONE).
Seriously,This why I can't stand ignorant people via you, Just because someone thinks Obama is a bad President that makes them Racist?

 

[R33l2r3al]

You needed a permission slip to watch the President speak?

We needed one as well. However my teacher was clever enough to say "If you DON'T want your student to watch the video, sign this form and return it." That way, if they don't return the form, it is essentially giving them permission to view it. As well, it was on during my AP Government and Politics class, so it is kind of important to watch

I'm excited to see the joint congressional meeting tomorrow. A president does this usually once during their administration and he's doing it only 8 months or so into his. Topic of choice, health care (go figure). This will really set the stage for what is to come during the rest of Obama's term.

 

[Inventor]

Lawl, must you bring your spammy garbage to an intelligent thread?

Some of us care about world issues and you're showing just as much disrespect as the other kid is for making intelligent and racist remarks.

Grow up.

 

[TJ]

Read.

He said...

1. athletics isn't a valid career choice for most
2. we should idolize MJ

This message is aimed toward kids who are still in elementary school and makes no sense.

MJ as in the basketball player, or singer?

Athletics isn't a valid career choice for most...i don't see how this could be wrong? They do nothing for society besides donate money.

 

[Inventor]

People still seem to think very general speeches have any sort of significance at all. This was a fairly unimportant speech geared towards people that wouldn't listen to it.

Where are my tax dollars going?

 

[crapkiller]

I go to a public high school, and it wasnt required to show it... My terrorist teacher wouldnt let us watch it, so while he was talking i just read the transcript instead. One thing i dont get, is why people call it "controversial"... I read and watched the whole thing, and i didnt see anything "controversial"... it was just "do good in school, dont drop out, etc"

 

[TJ]

People still seem to think very general speeches have any sort of significance at all. This was a fairly unimportant speech geared towards people that wouldn't listen to it.

Where are my tax dollars going?

They have spent billions and trillions of dollars on nonsense junk, and you are worried about this speech?