RipOsrs Is falsely Advertising

[RipOsrs]

We think the buyers intentions are clear now. Not taking the route of full satisfaction, but trying to talk us down with things that arent even the reason nor part of the reason of this false report.

Again,
We ask the mods to let the payment be released by the MM asap to us, as we delivered and overdelivered out of friendly gesture.

 

[Superfluous]

@RipOsrs @James Paul Elvin @Baod
Thanks for making this report. I admit to skimming most of it, but the key point is this:

You delivered a product that didn’t have the exact features I asked which made me purchased the script.

Usually these reports surface when the person selling the plugin hasn't developed it, or, in some cases, has bought it from the actual developer and is trying to pass it off as their own work. I will give @RipOsrs 48 hours to update the plugin to do what @James Paul Elvin paid for. If this timeframe cannot be met, @Baod can go ahead and issue a refund.

 

[RipOsrs]

Thanks for your response superfluous!
First of all, we already have a fully working product to the full requests of the customer, to send the customer, as shown in the proof in earlier reply.

The part which is extremely important is that before the agreement was made, the buyer was telling us,"you can have it like axe double maul too? or like double maul to dh axe? which is in the very starting stages of our conversation,we responded: that we do it in the most efficient order,stating nowhere he expects a AGS spec. He wanted a weapon combo which did whack -> special attack - > whack. Nowhere did he state he wanted to be doing a AGS spec before.

My assistant cant be blamed, for misunderstanding AGS to gmaul to axe, for AGS spec to gmaul, which was asked for at far later stages after the agreement was made.
This was the only question about the combo/ what it uses when it uses etc.

Then the MM did a nice suggestion, to kinda add on to our agreement:
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May it be not properly expressed what the client wanted, or not, the dev woke up and inserted the custom functionality, where the customer asked for a whack-specialattack-whack combo, we now had to deliver a dh setup plugin.

The point is, all the customer asked before the buy:
-You can have it axe double maul too? or like double maul to dh axe
We answered with: Its in the most efficient order, because all we chase is the kill.
Now that suggests a "static" order, which customer already was fine with, where we delivered a plugin, that was able to do whack-specialattack-whack
double spec to whack
single spec to single spec

So more then 1 option. We wanna express the fact that calling our topnotch quality products, made by exclusively us, in the same sentence as " trying to pass it off as their own work" wouldnt be deserved especially showing proof of already offering updated + extra functions as sign of a friendly gesture already..

 

[RipOsrs]

Just to repeat:
We think its very important to read all the proof, since we think you missed this picture at the least:
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This was done within the timeframe my assistant told customer, due to me being asleep, and was done first thing when i woke up.

Just be extra clear:
Customer payed for a plugin that would perform the combo in the most efficient order possible. + That if anything went wrong or not, he would get full lifetime support and updates.

We delivered just that, client needed some extra functionality ( ags spec) and the product needed an update due to wanting to have the dh axe smack after gmaul spec instead of the most efficient way in a AGS risk fighter plugin that would be the AGS.

Again we cannot blame my assistant for interpeting clients words : ags to gmaul to axe as whack to special attack to whack, instead of ags spec to gmaul spec to whack.

This could be called a misunderstanding at most, but deff not false advertising from us.
All questions were answered to 100% honesty to the point that if my assistant didnt have the answer to customers question ready, responding with: for this specific question i gotta relay it to my dev.

Again we got the full wishes of client sorted, and even out did it.
Not only updating the needed stuff, but also including functions as a seperate axe whack, a seperate ags spec etc..

 

[James Paul Elvin]

@RipOsrs @James Paul Elvin @Baod
Thanks for making this report. I admit to skimming most of it, but the key point is this:


Usually these reports surface when the person selling the plugin hasn't developed it, or, in some cases, has bought it from the actual developer and is trying to pass it off as their own work. I will give @RipOsrs 48 hours to update the plugin to do what @James Paul Elvin paid for. If this timeframe cannot be met, @Baod can go ahead and issue a refund.

the issue is, and why i dont feel comfortable purchasing this, if you dig deeper into reading this, i have asked multiple times to speak to the developer of the script, and they themselves have admitted to being a virtual assistant, logged on to what should be the owner's discord and sythe. the person you're speaking to isn't the developer, they are saying "the developer will fix it" but despite multiple attempts to get the seller to prove they are the developer, or they have the right to sell it, the dev hasn't spoken in here or to me on discord once

Please read the following screenshots from this thread, it clearly shows RIPOsrs admitting that i was speaking to a virtual assistant, which mind you would have had to have been the one to send Baod the pm on sythe to ensure it was him. So the person operating the RIPOsrs sythe account which was selling the script, the person on their discord, and the person who was selling the script, were not ni fact the developer or the owner.

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[RipOsrs]

I was talking to you the whole time. I have asked my assistant what happened and relayed his messages to.
Just for your clear info we have just sent you a reminder on our yesterdays offer to showcase you the solution already in the way we do:
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We now understand that you value talking to the developer and will ofc try our best to suit to your needs in that way to.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

So, your screenshot that you just sent me, is stating i am talking to the developer, who is on the same exact discord account that your virtual agent, your script owner, and your developer are all using? Tell me how that makes any sense

 

[RipOsrs]

As you've been told yesterday, when the dev is awake he reads everything and will always do so to provide the best possible customer service. For your clarification, we are 2 individuals, the dev, and the assistant. The assistant has more time in the later hours, and tries to help customers to the best and most honest standards possible. We are ready to deliver your ticket to annihilation. Please respond to us on discord

 

[James Paul Elvin]

but you are all on the same sythe account?

 

[RipOsrs]

A few replys up, i said " I was talking to you the whole time"
Excuse me if this wasnt clear enough.
I was talking to you the whole time here on sythe. I being me the developer.
If you would be so nice to respond on discord please, so we can deliver upon the mod's requests.
We are more then sure that everything you were looking for and more, like ags specing, dharok axe whack when you want, but also being able to ags whack if u want ( for example if ur hp isnt low enough for ur liking to use dh )
Looking forward to deliver your ticket to annihilation !

Edit:
We are btw more then sure that under the eyes of the mod, mm, and me the developer, no other misunderstanding or miscommunication will occur. We' ve seen you watching this thread for quite a while the last hr or so, but being offline on discord. Is there any chance you could take delivery right now? If not, which time would be most convenient for you?

 

[James Paul Elvin]

At the end of the day, the seller has just been flat out dishonest throughout this whole process, apart from misleading me about the capabilities of the script, the seller has stated on his own, that he has spoken to me as the owner on one occasion, the developer on another occasion and a virtual agent on yet another occasion. All of which have been from the same exact discord account, and the same exact sythe account.

This behavior is extremely fishy to me and i dont feel safe purchasing this product from the seller. I used a middle man for peace of mind to ensure that if anything fishy happened i would be able to receive my money back with no harm done. The seller stated he is capable of forcing an update to lock me out of the plugin if need be, thus causing no harm to the seller either.

I firmly believe the most fair way to go about this would be locking me out of the plugin and allowing the middleman to return my money. I can't, in good conscience trust that the extremely fishy behavior from the seller will go on and i do not trust them with my money

 

[RipOsrs]

Sir, if you had been lied to you wouldve never had the payment released.
We have been more then honest through out this whole process. Where you was talking to a assistant up to 3 am, and then the next day hearing there was a problem, me the developer been fully hands on as soon as i woke up, from the requested after agreement, to the whole process of handling this problem. There is no reason to think we are fishy since we already offered you the same product we wouldve offered you today, we had the product ready at a wait time of 5-6 hrs for the dev to wake up. Me trying to talk in terms like the dev instead of me, is because this is a public dispute, and i, the developer, think about my words being clear and understandable for anyone.

There is no reason to reject a product you bought, which was as promised updated to your standards, within the promised time: being when the dev wakes up.

We offered you a compensation for your not even crazy to be asked wait time of 5-6 hrs for the dev to wake up. This has been since the sign of you expressing the fact you not found what you looked for in a fully functional product, you didnt wanna wait for 5-6 hrs to have the dev wake up. We tried to and have done everything to fulfill our dutys since "day 1" of the problem. You on the other hand stopped with responding the moment the assistant went to sleep that day and i ( the dev ) 5-6 hrs later would wake up.Since you opened this thread ( which was when my assistant went to bed and i was still sleeping )
You havent respond to us, with our offering of showcasing you every option you asked for and we had done. We offered you the full product with the features you needed, and like i said above until this moment of typing since that day i would wake up, you havent responded to us at all and instead of choosing for a 5-6 hr wait for the dev to have came up with all of your needs and more, you still chose to after being reached the golden ticket to remain silent ever after you received the initial product and thought it didnt match your needs.. I editted this part at 00:12 CEST in my bed (developers bed.) since this has been on my mind the whole time.

You have gotten possesion of our work already, its a product thats been sold for lifetime, life time updates, and lifetime support.
Through out this whole problem that you seem to have, we have provided every solution, update, delivery, support, we have promised you. At this point our work is done, and out of above stated reasons even overdelivered. We deserved to be paid.
Again we only have been truthful transperant, and hard working to work for full customer satisfaction and even beyond.

Even if customer doesnt wanna take delivery, we fulfilled all our dutys, and should deserve to receive our payment for our work.
Out of customer service we again want to say we wont charge customer any additional money for the added features.

Edit: me the dev will be offline it is now 23:56 CEST. I have a job to go to, and children to bring to school in the morning. My assistant will try to stay on aslong as possible, and will try to aim to stay up until 02:00-03:00 CEST (2-3 after midnight ) to deliver the product and provide support. Else we'll be available tomorrow from around 10 in the morning.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

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You yourself just now said this once again via discord that someone else will be in possession of your discord account.

 

[Superfluous]

I firmly believe the most fair way to go about this would be locking me out of the plugin and allowing the middleman to return my money. I can't, in good conscience trust that the extremely fishy behavior from the seller will go on and i do not trust them with my money

I second this. @RipOsrs has clearly sold something that is unsatisfactory in JPE's eyes and seems unprepared to deliver the product initially ordered. I'm going to update my original decision and ask @Baod to go ahead and issue a refund.

Separately, I agree that @RipOsrs is behaving suspiciously. I've TWC'd him for not having posted from a home IP (posting from a home IP can get this removed), [strike]but the account sharing accusations are going to be hard to prove.[/strike] and I've also given a DNT for this account sharing nonsense:

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You yourself just now said this once again via discord that someone else will be in possession of your discord account.

Also, @RipOsrs please don't DM more walls of text. I'm not going to handle this report once in PMs and once on this thread.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

I appreciate your decision and your time, thank you

 

[RipOsrs]

The mod made a vital mistake by not reading our statements. We are fully prepared to deliver the initially product offered and Baod the MM is witness of this. There has been posted multiple proof that we are fully prepared to deliver the product the customer initially ordered. The fact that i use proper security measures for my own protection online shouldnt make me "sketchy" and our discord account i share with a guy i litterly trust my kids to, actually. Again the mod made a crucial mistake by not reading but as in his own words skimming through it and missing vital parts that contributeto his judgement. Im now gonna sleep and hope to wake up on justice.

 

[RipOsrs]

We cant allow for a mod to speak or insinuate lies about us. Both Mod's post contained insinuating lies about us as shown below:
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We already shown we are more then prepared to deliver, you the mod on other hand shown you werent prepared to read all proof, but "skim through it" Which made you have to tell a second and third lie. Saying we are suspicious for having proper internet security measure, AND lying that we are unprepared to deliver whilst the proof shows clearly different if you've only read it.

We'd like a solution where a mod doesnt think from his own uneducated own beliefs, and just see the proof for what it is, and was ment for. Justice! This is absurd!

And edit: Neither one of you decides on a probemas, gold house, the dang or whatever has a virtual assistant. We dont have a website, because we wanna stay private, and exclusive. I choose to give access to my real life long time friend, who acts as a assistant, we like to keep things central, not that this needed an explanation, we are free to do so. Not hearing neither one complain about assistants on any other known case. Neither James nor Mod decides how the owner wants to structure his communication in his own business. We clearly have been dealt with unfair, due to given proof being available a day before the mod's clearly un fair and unknowing response.

 

[RipOsrs]

Customer bought a AGS riskfighter, knowing it did the combination to the most efficient order possible. That was the order and the deal. Customer was happy with it and released the payment, to moment later withhold the payment due to custom requests as a AGS spec, while if u wanna pull up a calculator and calculate damage output from AGS spec - gmaul or ags whack - gmaul specialx2 - ags whack IS the most effcient order to get maximum damage. We haven lied, and have even fulfilled customers CUSTOM requests AFTER the agreement was made, and was ready to deliver since moment 1. We deserve a fair mod.

Edit: Again we never lied nor falsely advertised, we liked to keep a short line between fresh from development and customer. Customer was told, the plugin does the combo to the most efficient order, and client agreed and went on to purchase. After that honest response, being given due to the product being fresh, and normally i the dev even think of supported weapons to the point of like a blisterwood flail, just because the product was so fresh from development, and me the dev being asleep, my assistant had to relay the very specific questions to me for when i woke up. This is a case of a client getting what he ordered and was described truthfully, getting released the payment, then getting withhold the payment because client not want to wait 5-6 hrs for the dev to wake up. Yet totally fine with ignoring us since a few hrs after our initial conversation trying to send him what he had right to because of us promising lifetime support and updates which we did, and letting this go on for days now. Then having a mod that is proving to not read our given proof, based on the explanation he gives, and now being out of money that was rightfully ours, and a customer having the product, he purchased at totally honest description. To the point where if my assistant didnt have the answer, he'd reply with i have to relay your question to my dev when he wakes up. Client wasnt open for solution, after we showcased him the whole bought plugin and every feature needed was working as it should. The specifics on customers request have been taken and done totally free, within exceptional response times.

 

[RipOsrs]

Up until now, both Mod replys in itself proof that he didnt read the given proof before hand.

by accusing, after being proven done custom work.

by lying, that we arent prepared to deliver, whilst the proof shows we offered client to deliver more then a fair amount of times, but client ever since our first conversation, deliberately didnt respond to take the receiving end of delivery. The Middle man being witness to this all.

We shouldnt care and are not responsible for your "sythe rules" that possibly ( unknowing from our part ) dismiss the use of proper internet security measures, if its the case that not posting from a home ip is a offence. You see it advertised everywhere " wanna safe secure and safe? buy Xvpn!" We arent even browsing through a VPN, yet just have proper security measures in place, in the working field of runescape dev, where the most crazy stuff happens, due to the lacking of above.

The sole reason the mod had to do, he has failed in. By saying statements that clearly proof he didnt read provided proof in this case.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

The refund has been received by baod, the middleman. Mods feel free to close thread