RipOsrs Is falsely Advertising

[James Paul Elvin]

MIDDLEMAN WAS USED, NAME AND INFO PROVIDED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST

Link the current Sythe account: RipOsrs
Which violation you are reporting the user for: Falsely advertising the capability of the plugins they're selling
Why you think they're violating Sythe rules: They are advertising an auto spec plugin as seen here
✞R.I.P OSRS✞ #1 We dont settle for less!✞

I then went to the discord link provided in the thread, found the admin RipOsrs and began DMing him to see exactly what the plugin did, as the plugin's discord channel has next to no information. I expressed to him that i would be interested in a plugin and wanted to see what exactly he had for sale.

He then asked "What types of combos would you like to annihilate with ?
Like do you have a pure, range tank, main etc"

I replied saying "More than likely I’ll be dhing so ags gmaul axe"

He tells me "Oh your really lucky then we just dropped an ask riskfighter that does just this and more"

a couple days later i go though with purchasing this script and find out that it will not just spec with ags, it doesnt have an option to attack with the axe at all to whack, so the script is virtually useless to me as it does almost none of the things I was told it does. He keeps on saying he will contact the developer when he’s online to update the script to my needs, but the script should already be as advertised and I don’t want to deal with such a shady dealer, so I’m simply asking that the middleman return my money, as I was sold a product that was advertised falsely. Also, if you’re the one selling the script, shouldn’t it be YOUR script? It sounds to me like he is selling someone else’s script and when he needs tweaking he has to ask whoever’s script it is to tweak it. None of this makes any sense


Screenshots of him saying it does the ags gmaul axe and our intro

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Screenshots of me saying it doesn’t do what he described

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Screenshot of him apologizing that he misunderstood what the script was capable of, and saying he’d get the developer to fix it, but if he’s selling the script he should be the dev and able to fix it
https://gyazo.com/5de641f4c09443a7296b1abe4088190c

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Screenshot of him saying it is possible to lock me out so I can’t use script and thus making it so if he does so the middleman can refund me and he’s also saying again to wait until the dev wakes up to fix the problem

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Screenshot of him just trying to bribe me to wait by offering me more plugins
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Screenshot of him saying he doesn’t have the ability to allow me to be refunded and he’s “only allowed to set up scripts for people”
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So in conclusion, the only reason I bought the spec was because I was told it could do combos, that I found out when I purchased the script, were not possible. He sold me the script under false pretenses, he clearly isn’t the developer of the script, he doesn’t own the script and I would have never bought it if he didn’t lead me to believe it could be used to dharok on and do combos as such. I also wanted to use a middleman incase things didn’t go as promised by the seller, which they didn’t, so I believe I should be entitled to my money back from the middleman

RipOsrs Discord UID: 818162502864994324


I will be more than happy to provide a gyazo video showing the full conversation between us and between us and our middleman. I chose the key points because it is a very long conversation and the video would be very long.

middleman used

Baod
Link to middleman page: [COLOR=var(--accent-color)]https://www.sythe.org/threads/1-000-donator-1-200-vouchsbaods-middle-man-service1-hour-of-my-time-free-1-hour-3/page-113[/COLOR]

Link to profile:
[COLOR=var(--accent-color)]https://www.sythe.org/members/baod.1093994/[/COLOR]

 

[RipOsrs]

Hi sir, we've tried to work things out for the better on your specific custom request.

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Here you can see us showing you the video, which we recorded in times of development.

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Here is you asking about displaying the annihilating function of "spec veng"
We are fully transparant and tell you its the latest addition to our product line, it got done with development a few hrs ago.
You were also saying that you'd wanted to use paypal. In which case there would be no support what so ever due to it being a virtual item.

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Hear you ask about the order of the combo. We gave you the answer that was totally fair, and not false in any way shape or form.
"Its in the most efficient order, because all we chase is the kill"

Which you responded with "Awesome!"
We then responded to you showing you our Youtube channel which has videos of our products in action since it was late for us.

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The next day you were unsure due to us being a new business if you wanted to do business with us.
We tried to provide the solution to your problem in form of suggesting a highly vouched for middleman.

After the middleman not being able to do paypal we decided to do 07GP.
I filled in the middleman template outside the IDS of our discord due to a bug on discord not allowing me to copy discord id to clipboard at the moment.
2Towers(james) Would take care of this:
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Your discord ID was the right one, Ours that you filled in for us in the same way you did yours, was wrong.

Now after the Middleman got the 349M 07GP, we went to deliver you the product. Which was: RIP OSRS - AGS RISKFIGHTER
We like to offer more then solid customer service, and since your an early supporter, we gave you the chance to demonstrate your plugin at clan wars.
We gave you an explanation of the functions as show below, which were all fully working at the moment you received your order.
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We then later found out, that the only thing faulty about the plugin, was the small oversight by the dev in making the plugin switch back to primary after the combo was performed.
This was a miniscule fix and is already done as we speak. It isnt a feature that breaks the combination or any other vital parts of the plugin. It still performs flawlessly and to the highest quality possible.

I then proceeded to inform you about our other products, even showcasing one in real time to you.
You then asked to check the feature in your earlier words "spec veng" and it worked.

You then proceeded to ask a very specific question, which is shown below:
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The product was freshly from development, and our developer was sleeping, a man needs his rest.
We then proceeded to tell you what it is doing, and you asked me a question out side of that.

We then again answered your specific question about the combo and how it works below:
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We said I dont think thats possible will connect back to the developer about it and give you your answer.
Alright you said.
We then offered you to try it out some more on our clan wars demo and u see the "spec veng" working

With you telling us you'd clear the payment after seeing all the functions work below part of this picture/chat has been seen above:
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You then release the payment to us, because you have seen all functions are working, and you are fully up to date with the workings of the plugin and are content with it as we discussed and i delivered upon.
Here is that proof:
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Then after confirming everything is working fine, except the switch back to primary weapon which has nothing to do with the actual combo which was explained more then once to you.
You start to budge back and say it doesnt do what you need because you want it to AGS spec.
Now outside the fact that we already ensured the primary weapon switches back properly only a few hrs after ur request as soon as the dev waked up.

We delivered a fully functional product, and you were not lied to nor false advertised to. We didnt even advertise the sale of this product yet since it was so fresh out of development. We just offered it to you since we like to do such things to early supporters. Just like we made the Middleman suggestion to not have to stick to a no, but tried our best to make you feel comfortable with it.
You werent comfortable for any reason that you seem fit, to keep the money at a highly vouched for Middleman for as little as 5-6 hours at one point, for our dev to wake up at 7-8 am in the morning.
Virtual items like these are highly sensitive to people with wrong intentions towards our brand, and any other malicious intended ideas.
Our product also included lifetime support and updates, its a purchase for lifetime.
We have fulfilled your custom requests, on a already working product and they have been done exactly the way you asked. Making this a custom service instead of a sale of a premade one.
We dont care about the money, we care about serving happyness out in these rough times, thats why we wont charge you any extra. Just trying to set an example of superb Customer service.

We also care for justice.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

You delivered a product that didn’t have the exact features I asked which made me purchased the script. Also, as the seller of the script, you should be the owner and developer.

and me replying awesome was to a feature you stated that actually worked, however every feature i was told it had and that I bought the script for, that set it apart from others, didn’t work

 

Just to add, i have asked both users to open this report, as there is a disagreement & i don't want to release payment until both partys are happy, or until a decision is made here,

I have been middle manning this trade & There is a disagreement in the group chat we have open about the plugin & Releasing Payment, i am holding the GP Value of the trade until both party's are happy, Or until a mod makes a decision.

Thankyou

 

[RipOsrs]

With all thou respect, The plugin worked exactly how it was described to you, and it was all clear to you. Thats why you released the payment. We delivered upon the MM agreed terms to deliver you our " RIP OSRS - AGS RISKFIGHTER" for 349M.
Every function functioned properly, outside the switching back to primary weapon which was a slight oversight by our dev being the product is so fresh, which you also knew about.
We delivered upon the agreed terms, and sir wants to make a pre made plugin purchase a custom request now.
A custom request that has been fulfilled to the full needs of the customer, for free, in thought of good customer service.
The plugin worked exactly, and was tested with yourself at clan wars. Every feature was checked and was working except the switch back to primary, again done within exceptional response times of 5-6 hrs being 2-3 AM for the dev being asleep.
Again, we delivered on the made agreement, and feel the money shouldve already been released to us since we held our part, and even outdid it by delivering this type of work we call customer service. We truely are delivering ground breaking top notch quality products.

Outside the fact we already have the solution for free to a customers needs, the money shouldve already been released in our views. Nothing towards the MM hes doing the best job he can, just expressing our views.

We are here again to deliver nothing but top notch quality products.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

I’m done arguing about it, but the first thing we spoke about was me saying I’d want it to do a feature you said it does “just that and more” which is ultimately why I bought it, and it didn’t do that when I tested it. I said awesome and almost allowed the funds to be released prematurely when you showed me the basic features, but when I asked about the specific features I wanted, we found that it couldn’t do this and you apologized for yourself and said you weren’t familiar with something you’re claiming as your own script. I’m done discussing this, we’ll allow mods to decide

 

[RipOsrs]

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You told us More then likely ill be dhing so AGS gmaul axe. This was litterly the function of our product. Its not a custom made plugin for you, its a pre made plugin you bought, after you were clearly instructed what it did. We even added your custom requests and like to see the money be released asap, due to us delivering on our promises and even overdelivering by proving that our lifetime support and updates is done in super fast response times and in this case even custom work.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

Your product did not switch to axe which you clearly even apologized for in my screen shots stating that you were sorry for the script not working like you said. You said yourself you are sorry and you were wrong.. you are telling me you had a developer fix your script to my needs this morning, which is what I was told should have originally been in the script anyway, otherwise I would not have bought it.. “over delivering”isn’t fixing something through a developer that I haven’t been able to speak to and that has been nameless when you’re the one selling a script with your own name on it without proper knowledge on how it works


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This screenshot right here completely contradicts you saying that the script works as described. It is you yourself saying “I am so sorry, I showed you the video and that’s how it’s supposed to be, I can’t say sorry enough, wether it’s bout my lack of knowledge at this moment or it actually not being as it was”

 

[RipOsrs]

You've been clearly told you were speaking to a virtual assistant due to the dev being asleep. The plugin wasnt made for you, the excellent customer service providing assistant did his best to suit to yours needs, in a way he was possible to. Telling you every of your custom requests will be done for you in a more then reasonable time frame due to your custom requests. The plugin was doing what in essence it needs to do, it just had to be tailored to your specific needs. We agreed upon a sale of a premade plugin, and your holding the money due to custom requests. Hope to hear from a mod soon.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

You did not state this until 3 hours after I bought the script and then again this morning, I had no knowledge of this prior to the sale

 

[RipOsrs]

Again we asked you what type of combo you want.
You responded with i dh "So ags gmaul axe". Which is exactly what it is doing as we told you.
A granite maul nobody in OSRS uses as a "whack/smack" weapon. Ags gmaul axe = whack special whack. Thats exactly what the plugin performs. Just not with your custom request of a dh axe as a whack weapon after the spec, or as standalone whack. Which is now taken care of, as part of a friendly gesture.

 

[RipOsrs]

Since we're sorry for the external forces who have to spend time on this case we offered Client a quick and solid solution to his custom requests.
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[RipOsrs]

And just for providing an extra insight in to potential intentions that potentially could be point out, we'd like to provide this aswell:

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Screenshot - 91b9b575f2282e600791923569b33a55 - Gyazo -> the moment mm received the 07gp.

Client was online on discord in the meanwhile on and off, and has not yet replied to our previous message to him.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

you're saying "we" can i ask who "we" is? and also, why havent you once provided any sort of info for me to contact the dev, as a customer i should have access to this. Can you tag the developer in this report?

as for your accusations of my "potential intentions"
the screenshots below in order clearly show:

1,i originally wanted to pay via paypal, but the mm didnt accept paypal.
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2, i agree to pay via rsgp and you went to check rates.
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3, you were offered the rate of .44usd/m and offered me the price to value the gold at .43usd/m
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4, i then told you i will purchase the gold back from you at the rate of .44usd/m because i originally wanted to pay via paypal and not osrsgp
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[RipOsrs]

Please state the full story if you speak out.

3. We went to a rsgp site asking prices and got offered 0.42 by probemas, then we offered you to ask another site, to get a average, and asked you if that was fine. You were happy to hear this, and agreed. We then asked PIEGP who offered 0.44, we settled on 0.43 because it was the average of 2 sites again offered to us to work as fair and transparant as possible.

I wasnt accusing you, im just stating the full back story to a already solved custom request, which has been taken care of, and you have been fully in position to work with us on your custom requests.

If the Middleman wasnt heading to the shop, being the reason we dont have the full payment yet, you would have to leave a suggestion in our discord for improvement. We totally convieniently skipped that step for you and went straight in to your custom demands made after the agreement was made.

We ask the mods to let the payment be released by the MM asap to us, as we delivered and overdelivered out of friendly gesture.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

how about the first part of the message where i ask "you're saying "we" can i ask who "we" is? and also, why havent you once provided any sort of info for me to contact the dev, as a customer i should have access to this. Can you tag the developer in this report?"

 

[RipOsrs]

We already have stated that you were talking to the virtual assistant because the developer was asleep.
That means if hes not asleep your talking to him. In a way we choose. In a way we choose to run our business.
In this case having a virtual assistant, for more welcoming and open opening times. With all thou respect, we decide how we structure our communication in our business. You have every access to the developer by the way you already contacted us. Outside that, its not about all these other situations your drawing, its about you having custom requests after your order was truthfully fulfilled and overdelivered. Again your statement of " why haventyou once provided anysort of info for me to contact the dev" is false. We clearly explained you that as soon as he wakes up he'll read all and everything you said and your custom requests. If it now comes down to you having an preference to know when you speak to who again isnt part of the problem. The problem now is a MM cant complete his service due to a Falsely stated thread title, after his part of the deal is done. He would make sure everything works as been clearly explained to you shown in above proof, and everything did. Now worked out the custom requests you had, your trying to talk about rsgp prices, about who your speaking to, instead of being actual part of the solution. To us it looks like your trying to be the opposite. We've tried our best to make you feel like the king a customer deserves to feel. We cant do much more then offer the extra custom made demands, as a free service to make you happy, and after giving you more then full support, and more then that.

Again,
We ask the mods to let the payment be released by the MM asap to us, as we delivered and overdelivered out of friendly gesture.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

please tell me where i was notified that i was speaking to a virtual assistant BEFORE i bought the script. Virtual assistants should not be on the same discord account as the owner, and should not be on the same sythe as the owner. why is the actual scripter or the "actual owner" of the script contacting me? i have been speaking to the same person the entire time, why is the owner of the script or the developer not here arguing this case? if you are just the assistant, who is not allowed to tell a middleman i am entitled to a refund, why are you able to be the one to dispute these issues?why have i seen absolutely nothing from the developer you are referring to and ive seen no proof that you are even the sole owner of the script. you have told me you dont know exactly how the script works, which the owner should, you told me you have to wait on someone else to fix an issue, which the owner should be able to do.

 

[RipOsrs]

Lets put it the other way around. Where id you state that you'd only do business in any case only talking to one person in particular?
You are now complaining about who you were talking to, which has nothing to do with the deal. What you think how things should be, doesnt make it have to happen that way. We treated you nothing but fair, even after you did us dirty.

Screenshot - b04fd48e44e44666c3209a90585221bd - Gyazo -> "what if" agreement.

Agreeing on the fact that we give full lifetime support, and not even 5-6 hrs wait time was accepted by your part for your custom demands made after the deal was formulated and agreed upon. That YOU breaking YOUR word, and not us not fulfilling our needs to a Middleman service where we obliged by all the rules and even made them suit your favour more then multiple times. No where did it state you having the demand to handle business strictly straight with the developer, its in its totality not part to be discussed at this state and day. Now the sole part that was overlooked which wasnt even part of the offered product, was falling under lifetime updates. Having to hear you be to unpatient to wait 5-6 hrs but now letting this go on for over a day, is falling under lifetime support. Your custom requests are custom work, which we'd gladly do to see a customer happy. The leaving out of pieces of vital parts of the agreement in your original post like the above shown proof and further more above, should make these made choices of evidence showing of yours doubtfull at the least.

Again,
We ask the mods to let the payment be released by the MM asap to us, as we delivered and overdelivered out of friendly gesture.

 

[James Paul Elvin]

its literally against sythe rules for someone else to be using your account, so you having a virtual assistant doing your sales and having access to your sythe account is against the rules by itself...