How do you believe Life on Earth started?

[Shredderbeam]

I personally am a Christian and believe God created the world and the universe in 6 days and on the 7th day rested.

Why do you believe that?

Where would the matter come from? No particles could be just always "there." There's always a creator to something, except there isn't a creator to the creator. God has always been and will always be. From the day of the Heavens and the Earth was formed, until the day of Armageddon.

Occam's Razor. You're postulating excessive layers of complexity.

I personally can't say I'm a believer in evolution. Darwin evolution theory started off by him visiting the Galapagose Islands. He found a bird with a screwed up beak and jumped to assumption.

Not quite. He found several different subspecies of finches with differently formed beaks, and concluded that the differences must be caused by some sort of natural pressure - a selective one, as he later wrote.

I just personally think the public school system has corrupted and taught the wrong things to minors ever since 1960s - Present day. I'm not trying to force you into a religion, yet trying to help you and save you by ministering my beliefs. I hope it can benefit you. I do sound like a hypocrite, but I ASSURE YOU I AM NOT RIPPING ON YOUR BELIEFS. I AM TRYING TO DEBATE WITH THEM.

Have you researched evolution extensively?

People who doubt the Bible say "Why would God have made man if he hates sin." Well I have a perfect explanation. God is perfect in every way, shape, and form. God wanted a relationship with man, and it wasn't God's will for man to fall short of his love. It was God's will for man to come to him and repent, and be saved from himself.

Why did God design us to want to sin?

God gave us all a choice, to take the ways of sin or the solution to follow him and go to Heaven. The wages of sin is death, and that's what it'll be after the rapture. Death and corruption everywhere. The world will have fallen deeper into the hell it is now. God let man sin because a non sinner would be perfect, yet in that basically creating another god.

A person who does not sin is not God - they are just a good person.

I was raised on the Bible, yet I do have doubts sometimes. But, I always find a way to prove it's true. The Bible is so easy to figure and use for your own wisdom giving God credit for what He's done.

Yet if you were raised on the Qu'ran, you'd be as equally convinced that it was true and the Bible false.

I've always wondered... If you're an atheist or an agnostic, why not turn to God? You have nothing to lose, yet everything to gain.

- I cannot, by an act of will, change what I believe.
- Even if I could change what I believed, wouldn't a God see right through that?
- There are more than two options (God or no God). You neglect all the gods of other cultures, and of those that have not yet been conceived.
- The odds of God existing are not 50/50.

 

[xx mdv xx]

It is very hard to understand the beginning of the world so my current explanation, because I am a Catholic, is that God had no beginning and no end and therefore he created the Earth. Atheists might call me stupid, but who or what created the big bang, who or what created atoms? So far the beginning of the world to many people doesn't really make sense in any way they could look at it because it does not seem logical because there will always be some flaw in it being logical.

 

[Mlg Sniper XO]

hmmmm i think, and know for sure that god created the life.

 

[Govind]

I believe in multiregional evolution for human origin.

 

[Mantazzza]

I think its very strange process , It chmemical-biological progress, and everything started from some viruses

 

[xtavie]

I think its very strange process , It chmemical-biological progress, and everything started from some viruses

What created the viruses?

 

[Ss2]

... Hmm ... I know how it all started.

God lit a match and farted on it. Thus, making an explosive green gas that eventually formed the universe. :huh:

Lol. Jk jk.. God created it.

 

[xtavie]

Shredder I think you should look into a man by the name of Rabbi Zacharias... Why is it that half of those asked the "Who/what created ____" don't answer, even fellow Christians... If you can't support your belief don't post and embarrass yourself, sorry it offends anybody but I'm just looking out for you...

 

[Shredderbeam]

Shredder I think you should look into a man by the name of Rabbi Zacharias... Why is it that half of those asked the "Who/what created ____" don't answer, even fellow Christians... If you can't support your belief don't post and embarrass yourself, sorry it offends anybody but I'm just looking out for you...

Do you mean Ravi Zacharias? I briefly scanned his website, reading a few of the articles, and I didn't find anything greatly different from what I normally see on apologetic websites.

You should realize that I literally spend around 5-10 hours a week debating high-profile apologists (of all religions), including ones who have written books, give speeches, etc. That is the level that I am at, so I find it very frustrating to have people quoting the same old tired arguments at me, day after day.

 

[xtavie]

Hinting a bit of arrogance there? Well I agree that you are one of the, if not best, "debaters" on these forums. You should try to attend one of his debates, I'm sure you will be greatly intrigued.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Hinting a bit of arrogance there? Well I agree that you are one of the, if not best, "debaters" on these forums. You should try to attend one of his debates, I'm sure you will be greatly intrigued.

It's not arrogance - I'm trying to spare myself irritation at being lectured by those who are novices in the theology/philosophy field.

I'm sure I would be intrigued, just as I'd be intrigued going to any apologists debates or meetings.

 

[Frenzy]

God, dont believe in evolution.

 

[Isis]

God, dont believe in evolution.

This forum is about reason, not emotion.

 

[demonon]

In our Philosophy class at school we are watching the movie Jesus Camp.
I have learned by watching that these Evangelists use indoctrination to make their child's believe in God.
I am happy that even though my mother is a Muslim she has given me a chance to let me decide what I want myself. I have even read the Bible and did allot of research and will continue to do it myself. Right now I believe in evolution.
The best explanation because every action a animal or human makes can be explained by evolution.

 

[Shredderbeam]

God, dont believe in evolution.

Why don't you believe in evolution?

 

[Rusher]

my life? my mum and dad had sexual intercourse.

 

[xtavie]

For all those people saying evolution, evolution doesn't explain how life started, it explains what happened to it after it was already here...

 

[demonon]

For all those people saying evolution, evolution doesn't explain how life started, it explains what happened to it after it was already here...

It actually does.
Chemical reactions caused simple molecular "lifeforms" to multiple itself.
This is a simple form of DNA. Slowly it got more complex, mono cellular lifeforms came into existence and after that more complex creatures.
But I don't know if this is the evolution theory originally created by Darwin and remodelled a few times by modern science.

 

[Shredderbeam]

For all those people saying evolution, evolution doesn't explain how life started, it explains what happened to it after it was already here...

Abiogenesis.

 

[jaamal]

Abiogenesis.

Why do you choose to believe in Abiogenesis?