Abortion

[Swan]

I said doing careless actions, not just killing aimlessly. But still, a disregard for others life will end more lives then save.


Is this all you have to say? At least be reasonable. The baby has a life of it's own, even if it's still in the mothers uterus, it doesn't receive natural rights the second its born, it receives them when it has the same characteristics as a living thing.

Come up with another answer next time. It's hardly an explanation for your opinion.

Care factor: 0.

Why does a baby receive rights? Legally it doesn't have them until it is born, hence a moral perspective isn't valid here.

 

[TJ]

Ending a baby's opportunity to live out it's life. If you don't want the baby, give birth to it, and put it up for adoption, don't screw around if your not ready in the first place.

Oh yeah, let it rot in a building where it won't leave till its 18. Cheers.

It's just like suicide. It maybe one's body, but Why would you Let someone do that to themselves?

My dad tried to kill himself a year or so ago. Personally, i was crushed. But obviously he wanted out, so why stop him?

 

[The Riddler_]

Care factor: 0.

Why does a baby receive rights? Legally it doesn't have them until it is born, hence a moral perspective isn't valid here.

Lol, you should just end your life speaking like that. If they couldn't bear the consequences, then don't do the actions. In the end, it will treat them a life lesson instead of the "easy way out" of things.

Oh yeah, let it rot in a building where it won't leave till its 18. Cheers.


My dad tried to kill himself a year or so ago. Personally, i was crushed. But obviously he wanted out, so why stop him?

So much negativity, it's almost saddening.

 

[TJ]

Lol, you should just end your life speaking like that. If they couldn't bear the consequences, then don't do the actions. In the end, it will treat them a life lesson instead of the "easy way out" of things.

So much negativity, it's almost saddening.

Why is it sad?

and why do you say so much negativity?

 

[S P 3 3 D Z]

Well honestly. the way i look at it is its nots murder till the 3rd trimseter
but in all seriously. there all ppl who are honestly carefull about having sex. and there are acidents that happen. and some people cant afford to have a baby. it is pricey if u dont have insurance. so abortion isnt a bad thing. its your choice. its not realy taking away a babys oppurtunies seeing that its only a zygote.. not an actuall thinking being.

 

[The Riddler_]

Why is it sad?

and why do you say so much negativity?

I'm saying what others "Want" me to say. What I think is confusing even for me, I'm probably the most skeptical person you will ever meet. I just don't speak of it or acknowledge it with others (what I think about and my unsure thoughts).

I had more but I erased it, it made no sense when I just looked at it to see if it did.

 

[TJ]

I'm saying what others "Want" me to say. What I think is confusing even for me, I'm probably the most skeptical person you will ever meet. I just don't speak of it or acknowledge it with others (what I think about and my unsure thoughts).

I had more but I erased it, it made no sense when I just looked at it to see if it did.

Lol, im saying what others want me to say? I am myself, not anyone else.

I have doubt in the world, because as a whole we are the most ignorant of anything else on this earth. If there is a chance to screw it up, we likely will. The worse are americans.

 

[Arya]

Lol, you should just end your life speaking like that. If they couldn't bear the consequences, then don't do the actions. In the end, it will treat them a life lesson instead of the "easy way out" of things.

So much negativity, it's almost saddening.

You speak of talking from a point where pre-thinking is welcoming, and yet, you never thought about the situation they may have been in, good or bad?

Sometimes, hormones take over, kid. Sometimes, it's not that easy to think about, "I may get pregnant from this". Besides that, you're a hypocrite. "So much negativity", yet, look at the words you typed not even 5 seconds before.

Your body, do as you please with it.

After a while, it's not only your body.

I believe that with a legitimate reason, such as the child will not be taken care of, and will have a horrible childhood if he even survives, then abortion should be permitted. However, after watching the film, "Lake of Fire", I believe that with any inadequate reason, such as not wanting a male child, the mother should not be allowed an abortion.

You believe that taking away a potential lifetime in exchange for avoiding a bad childhood is a good thing?

 

[Swan]

Lol, you should just end your life speaking like that. If they couldn't bear the consequences, then don't do the actions. In the end, it will treat them a life lesson instead of the "easy way out" of things.

So much negativity, it's almost saddening.

If the easy way out of things is a valid way out, I don't see any reason not to take it.

For example, I could take the express way out of a city or I could drive for kilometers around, either way I get out, but the express way is definitely easier isn't it?

Why should I end my life? Things are just starting to get interesting.

 

[cubfan57]

Life begins at conception, it is the taking of a human life. Abortion is wrong.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Ending a baby's opportunity to live out it's life. If you don't want the baby, give birth to it, and put it up for adoption, don't screw around if your not ready in the first place.

Consider the fetus: It cannot feel pain, and it is not conscious. It has no concept of itself. It has not yet begun to live out its life, so why is it wrong to kill it?

If you argue that you are ending its potential life, then the only thing that I can say is that we do not accord rights based upon the future of a being, we accord rights based upon its current status. A college student intent upon becoming a surgeon does not have the rights of a surgeon.

 

[Swan]

Life begins at conception, it is the taking of a human life. Abortion is wrong.

To answer you with a quote from Shredderbeam:

Consider the fetus: It cannot feel pain, and it is not conscious. It has no concept of itself. It has not yet begun to live out its life, so why is it wrong to kill it?

If you argue that you are ending its potential life, then the only thing that I can say is that we do not accord rights based upon the future of a being, we accord rights based upon its current status. A college student intent upon becoming a surgeon does not have the rights of a surgeon.

 

[Analog]

Consider the fetus: It cannot feel pain, and it is not conscious. It has no concept of itself. It has not yet begun to live out its life, so why is it wrong to kill it?

If you argue that you are ending its potential life, then the only thing that I can say is that we do not accord rights based upon the future of a being, we accord rights based upon its current status. A college student intent upon becoming a surgeon does not have the rights of a surgeon.

Agreed, I'm pro-abortion as well. A fetus is nonliving and has no concept of pain. If you're attempting to become an periodontist, but you have not received your certification, you are not permitted to practice. Mainly, much of my argument is; what's the main issue if the fetus has no concept of it's motor skills nor does it know what is occurring. The other point which attracts my attention is; if killing a fetus should be considered murder, why is there a separate conviction which is labeled as fetal homicide? There's no need for a new conviction considering that it's the same thing as murder. I disagree as well because certain circumstances require warranted actions; such as rape, young accidental pregnancy, and when someone has reached a level of intoxication which they cannot function properly.

 

[dark spaj]

Hmm, this is hard topic to take sides on as i havent found it a problem yet in my life, but the thing ot remember is:

abortion doesn't make you un-pregnant, it just makes you the mother of a dead baby.

 

[Koot]

I am pro abortion since as stated before the fetus can't think or remember its current state. When it is dead, it makes no difference. Plus in cases of rape and all that nasty stuff where the baby is unwanted, abortion is right.

 

[Swan]

Hmm, this is hard topic to take sides on as i havent found it a problem yet in my life, but the thing ot remember is:

abortion doesn't make you un-pregnant, it just makes you the mother of a dead baby.

Incorrect. A fetus technically isn't living to begin with - it is a part of the mother, it can't think, can't feel, see, hear or smell. It has absolutely no awareness of its own existence. Liken a fetus to a rock.

This is, until the 2nd (or 3rd? can't remember) trimester, but nonetheless.

 

[K-3-V-1-N]

A fetus cannot feel pain (up to a point), and has no concept of itself existing as a separate being (again, up to a point). I don't see why destroying it is a negative thing.

What if it is up to the point of pain? I think I remember you once saying that babies have rights because they're going to be rational when they're older. Why is it that the line is drawn after the fetus/child comes out? It is the Woman's body, but it is also the body of a future person that has rights. And one of those rights, is the right to live.

EDIT: I should read more, lemme edit after I read other comments

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Consider the fetus: It cannot feel pain, and it is not conscious. It has no concept of itself. It has not yet begun to live out its life, so why is it wrong to kill it?

If you argue that you are ending its potential life, then the only thing that I can say is that we do not accord rights based upon the future of a being, we accord rights based upon its current status. A college student intent upon becoming a surgeon does not have the rights of a surgeon.

Who is to say when life truly begins? A child of two has the right to live, even though he might not understand it. The fetus does not have a concept of itself, true, so what is the difference?

 

[Swan]

What if it is up to the point of pain? I think I remember you once saying that babies have rights because they're going to be rational when they're older. Why is it that the line is drawn after the fetus/child comes out? It is the Woman's body, but it is also the body of a future person that has rights. And one of those rights, is the right to live.

EDIT: I should read more, lemme edit after I read other comments

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Who is to say when life truly begins? A child of two has the right to live, even though he might not understand it. The fetus does not have a concept of itself, true, so what is the difference?

What about the sperm which does not become a child upon ejaculation, or the egg that is lost during menstruation? Surely these are potential, future people!

Your argument does not apply.

 

[andren0]

its good for people who cant afford the cost of living for there child and would be bringing them up in extreme poverty and also to rape victims, imo adoption>obortion but i dont no much about orphanages and how many people adopt to the amount of kids that get put up for adoption, tbh its the child bearers choice, i think a mother would no best for her child and the curcumtances of its life and birth

alot of people are gonna judge my comment and bring some facts up or stuff, this post is imo im not telling people what to do so stfu

 

[Swan]

its good for people who cant afford the cost of living for there child and would be bringing them up in extreme poverty and also to rape victims, imo adoption>obortion but i dont no much about orphanages and how many people adopt to the amount of kids that get put up for adoption, tbh its the child bearers choice, i think a mother would no best for her child and the curcumtances of its life and birth

alot of people are gonna judge my comment and bring some facts up or stuff, this post is imo im not telling people what to do so stfu

I suggest you learn proper English before posting.

Your opinion is more or less on the fence though from what I interpreted; you don't really agree with it but you aren't going to stop it from happening. At least you aren't one of those zealous idiots.