This is kindof a silly argument, a rather bad analogy, but I'll bite..
I do not own my sythe password. It is a string of characters that anyone could think up and I make no claims to it. I merely use it. I am not trying to sell it, nor is it a public thing. In order to access it at all you would have to do something illegal, such as phishing, keylogging, cracking, or fraud.
The same goes for credit card information. This is a whole different ball game. This information is not copyright, it just is not available to the public for any price. Distributing this information brings direct harm to individuals, and is illegal as such.
Music, on the other hand, is publicly available for everyone to know and hear. If I buy a CD, I do not therefore OWN its contents, so I am really only buying a plastic disc and some artwork. Why shouldn't I be able to distrubute this plastic disc as I please? Do I not OWN the plastic disc? Am I not able to take what is on the disc that I purchased and do with it what I please? Do I not then have the right to do with what I want the digital files which I created?
I can hear a song once, and play it back in my head accurately. Is this piracy? Am I infringing on copyright by writing down the lyrics? Am I infringing on their copyright by humming the melody? The answer to all this is no, and these are no different at the fundamental level from downloading the song.
Sorry with is a tad long.
First off how exactly is this a silly analogy it's what everyone tries to keep these things secret.
I don't think you are understanding on what I implemented my side of the story on. By this I mean it's something you may rely on for income, joy etc. a credit card number you might have a hospital bill you're medical coverage won't pay for and you don't have the money yourself you will need a credit card or a loan and you certainly can't do that if someone has gotten your credit card number or identification things and messed with your credit. and I am sure if this did happen to you, you would be on my side of this story.
The reason I didn't put something about copyright material is because you would use the same bogus things as you and shredder have already done. but for kicks I will
Lets see.. you for instance Jansen you are part of a company that works with visuals\art etc. online correct? what if you made a web page or something along those lines, got it copyright, and you were going to sell it as a layout, and someone stole it. You would obviously be upset because no one would come buy yours knowing the same thing is on the net somewhere free. Then you won't be able to afford hardly anything that month because your income will be severely lacking.
(not saying this is what you do or not I believe it is I may be wrong just using it as another analogy)
You have the right to put it where ever you want which is why you can put it on your computer upload it to a ipod,phone,mp3 player etc. that is not what we are debating here it's the people who DO NOT pay for it they just take it from the internet you can do anything you want with it though. I am sure if you individually gave every single person a copy of it, there would be a change in all of this but it isn't with places like limewire etc.
as for the whole digital files you created thing I don't really understand, you didn't create them, a band or a company did you just bought those specific digital files, which can also lead to the stop although contradicting what I said, you bought those 8-20 files no more no less. therefore copying them would be against it because you are only entitled to those 8-20 files, but to my knowledge they have no rules\laws etc. about that.
How can you possibly compare copying a song to writing lyrics, or humming the melody to it. that is completely different. It is against the law to take a song and make your own version of it without either the band giving permission or (there is a specific time period I believe) and then you have to change the song a bit, or that you are not wanting to make a profit from this. So if you can get a good band to cover the songs you want they can give out there music till there arms fall off and it's fine as long as they aren't making any profit from it.
