I was scammed.

[MancGainz]

Scammer's profile link: LazySplodge

Explain the service: Wintertodt crate service @ 175k per crate, later increased to 210k per crate.

Amount scammed: 63M (OSGP)

Proof that it's their Discord or Skype: Imgur

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID or Skype profile ID & conversation pictures:

User approached me early on in the service allowing me to login. - Imgur

User gave me a total 2 Runelite screenshots, however unable to provide anymore since he says he
switched to orignal client due to being to intensive? Imgur, therefore unable to provide
any evidence of the account being hand trained legitly for the 50 - 90 FM / 60 - 64 Wc / 5 - 55Fletching levels he gained.

Runelite screenshots - Imgur

Acceptance/Confirmation of gold trades, as well as acknowledgement of increase in price. - Imgur


Proof that the service was not completed: Account has been disabled. (Macroing Major) Imgur

Confirmation first lot of payment at original price was made - Imgur

Screenshots of levels by ME via Runelite - Imgur

 

[Champ]

User has been DNT'd.
@LazySplodge Care to elaborate?

 

[LazySplodge]

Gladly.
While I did allow him on the account several times as he has mentioned I also said "if you wanna jump onto the account at any time lemme know" ( As it says in his provided screen shot). 1 occurence I was not notified, and he was on the account anyway, While i did say "no worries let me know when you're done" he never stated he was going to go on the account, any other time i gave prior permission.

The crates you see in his pictures are my pictures of proof of service

My Laptop is terrible so i can only do 2 services max at a time with normal client letalone Runelite and i was doing a service for one customer and also playing an alt whilst doing this service for Mac. Hence the lack of screenshots. I've done some googling into this and have also found out that "mirror client" is a thing so don't believe any screenshot be it runelite/osbuddy or OG client can be used as evidence anyway.

Due to us both training this account at the same time I can't see how he is just as likely to have botted as i Have

 

[MancGainz]

Gladly.
While I did allow him on the account several times as he has mentioned I also said "if you wanna jump onto the account at any time lemme know" ( As it says in his provided screen shot). 1 occurence I was not notified, and he was on the account anyway, While i did say "no worries let me know when you're done" he never stated he was going to go on the account, any other time i gave prior permission.

Fullscreenshot to your provided counterclaim evidence.

Also additional evidence here is a screenshot of that very same time period on the 20th (Yesterday) of me getting a Firemaking level. Screenshot also features the "entity hider" feature which is a runelite plugin.
See date stamp (20th January 2019)

See Timestamp of created level via Runelite.

 

[LazySplodge]

Can you account for the other times that you were logged into the account?

 

[MancGainz]

It's interesting how now you are on the backfoot after I debunk your screenshot by actually providing the entire conversation of the 'partial conversation' you attempted to use in your defence.

I can flip your question, can you account for the times you were on my account providing evidence of the "hand trained" service you claim to have done?

I just literally provided screenshots of not only discord conversation but also a level screenshot in that same time frame, yet you fail to provide anything?

Just admit you botted your so called "handtrained" service and pay back the amount owed to me. The account is whatever, the prior levels to your service I can get semi afk again and the firemaking levels well they were botted by you, therefore it's no skin off my back, however the gold provided to you from me, that's skin off my back.

 

[LazySplodge]

Do you not see the screenshots i did provide with runelite in? That was before i did any extra services and like i said before, i cannot run 2 instances of runelite at once on my laptop. I can provide a small collection of them pre changing client if you would like?


Imgur

 

[MancGainz]

So are you saying after January 17th (Day 1 of the service) you have used a different client? It's a laughable excuse.

 

[LazySplodge]

Currently uploading some more. Its laughable you think you're the only person I've done work for and as stated (3 times now?) I can't run 2 instances of 3rd Party clients as they're intensive on my laptop

 

[LazySplodge]

Couple more from saturday Imgur

 

[MancGainz]

I haven't mentioned once I am the only person you've done work for. What I have stated is that it's laughable that you expect to believe the 3rd party laptop bullshit. You provided a false hand trained service, you may have started off hand training but as the levels got longer you switched up the service to a botted service.

Those screenshots still state "17th" which was day 1 of the service (Thursday), not Saturday.

 

[LazySplodge]

Imgur

Thats my laptop with 1 Client, Firefox And discord

 

[MancGainz]

Imgur

Thats my laptop with 1 Client, Firefox And discord

This proves literally nothing, I could boot up my older laptop and provide a cpu usage screenshot. From what I make of your vouches there hasn't been another service since me vouching for your first lot of 100 crates service you completed, however I could be wrong but that's how it appears at this moment in time. Also you stated you can only run '2 client's yet earlier you mentioned the following and I'll quote you words exactly

My Laptop is terrible so i can only do 2 services max at a time with normal client letalone Runelite and i was doing a service for one customer and also playing an alt whilst doing this service for Mac.

So that's 3 clients am I correct? A service for another, an alt and then the service for me, your whole defence story has holes in it, you are literally trying to debunk this report in anyway possible. Even if that isn't what you meant you've been doing a service from Thursday through to Sunday before the account was disabled, you are telling me that in all that time other than day 1 (17th) you haven't used Runelite again during any of the crate collecting, because you've gotten a hell of all of levels for me but can't prove anything.

First you try by using a partial screenshot of a conversation, which I shortly provided the entire conversation.

Secondly you then claim you can only run 2 clients but then say yourself you was running 3? (MAY have misunderstood but still plausible)

Thirdly you then provide screenshots through runelite of the first day of service at the 'easy' levels (17th January) but try to say they are from the Saturday and are unable to provide anything more.

This whole service has been a shambles provided by you, I was being 100% real throughout the entire service was happy to pay the extra amount per crate, actually spoke with you more as a friend than rather a 'customer' for good faith but yet you shit on me by providing a botted service which you can't man up to admit, trying to say I must have been the one botting, it would make 0 logical sense for me to pay for a service, outlay 63M total and was expecting to pay double that by time the account was 99 FM which you know full willingly I was prepared to do, to then go on and start botting.

Can a moderator please look through this case for an resolution, I shall not reply to any further responses from LazySplodge as i find his whole deminer utter bullshit.

 

[LazySplodge]

I meant it as I was playing an alt and doing a service as well as yours as in yours was constantly running whilst I swapped between the service and my alt. As you can see all of our conversation and on discord my grammar isn’t the best.

There are a few sscreenshots from the 18th as well. As stated before I mixed the days up but that’s kind of irrelevant as I wouldn’t intentionally lie about days because you know. Everyone had a calendar? Stop using shit arguments.

Like you said stop replying now and wait for a moderators reply. This is just turning into a public argument rather than a conflict resolution

 

[LazySplodge]

 

@LazySplodge @MancGainz I will be taking over this report as @Champ has resigned.
After reading through all of this i do have one question at the moment for @LazySplodge , you posted a picture of your processes that you are currently running, any reason why there is a AHK program running?

 

[LazySplodge]

I use it for when I'm Pking, F keys remapped to extra mouse buttons

 

I use it for when I'm Pking, F keys remapped to extra mouse buttons

Awesome, so if you have your F keys bound using AHK, and you keep this program running than it's possible that you used them also to train the account, even by mistake resulting in his ban.
I'm getting some insight from other mods and will let you know the outcome in a couple hours.

 

[LazySplodge]

Seems logical. Ok

 

Can you show me the tos you approved of? I for some reason dont see it, but see where you agree to it