How were we created?

[Shredderbeam]

I think his point was that emotions are often more worse for survival than not - such as when anger clouds your judgment.

That doesn't help the group effort.

It helps the individual, though. If you're intruding on my rights, and I get angry, I'm much more likely to do something about it, and give myself a higher chance at passing along my genes.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

It helps the individual, though. If you're intruding on my rights, and I get angry, I'm much more likely to do something about it, and give myself a higher chance at passing along my genes.

Well it's not only anger, but other useless emotions. Anger might make you kill another more viable member of your group (speaking in terms of evolution), but what does sadness accomplish?

Certainly doesn't help survival. But it does make us human (there are probably animals capable of feeling this emotion, it just slipped my mind...)

 

[Shredderbeam]

Well it's not only anger, but other useless emotions. Anger might make you kill another more viable member of your group (speaking in terms of evolution), but what does sadness accomplish?

Certainly doesn't help survival. But it does make us human (there are probably animals capable of feeling this emotion, it just slipped my mind...)

Sadness could serve to strengthen group bonds, though that's likely just a side-reaction.

 

[§tar]

i dont know it weird i think of it somtime when im going to bed i dont wanna die but its life, and i wonder what u become after u die? souls, ghosts, reincarnation, god, devil idfk

Stay on topic, etc.

~ Shredderbeam
http://sythe.org/showthread.php?p=2690766#post2690766

 

[verryberry10]

To respond to that, i believe we die, and nothing happens. It will be like we are asleep, no pain, no feeling forever. Scary to think about, eh?

 

[the_wippit]

I should have clarified: The emotions that it is a mixture of are those that are survival aides.



Well first, a theory is a well substantiated body of facts, explanations, and predictions.

Second, there has been some tentative research done on Xq28, and it seems promising so far.

ahhh yes xq28 of course!!! GOOD OL' XQ28 *googles xq28* ok you have me stumpted for now but ill be back after i do some more research on xq28 (im only in 8th grade ftl)

 

[sunsta]

You said this isn't meant to be religious discussion, but i believe that we were created by God, But how God came to be i have absoloutely no idea, nobody seems to be able to answer my question, Priests or anything they say he was just there, but how is that possible ?

 

[verryberry10]

For all we know god doesnt exist at all. I personally dont believe it.

 

[gaytime]

we were created from evoloution, i dont know were you mean how we as humans were created or the earth itsself was created.

 

[jebckr]

You said this isn't meant to be religious discussion, but i believe that we were created by God, But how God came to be i have absoloutely no idea, nobody seems to be able to answer my question, Priests or anything they say he was just there, but how is that possible ?

I had the same problem. Seems noone can give an answer other than "have faith." You'll find it to be a useless crutch.

Off topic I know. Shutup.

 

[ancheryay]

We were created by cell's groving in time.

 

[imnotcrazy357]

I had the same problem. Seems noone can give an answer other than "have faith." You'll find it to be a useless crutch.

Off topic I know. Shutup.

God has always been and will always be. God was never created by anything/anyone.

theres an answer besides "have faith"

 

[Shredderbeam]

God has always been and will always be. God was never created by anything/anyone.

If God is eternally existing, then why couldn't the seeds of the universe exist eternally?

Also, a creator must be at least as complex, or more so, than its creation. To say that the universe's existence is improbably implies that God's existence is equally or more improbable.

 

[imnotcrazy357]

If God is eternally existing, then why couldn't the seeds of the universe exist eternally?

Also, a creator must be at least as complex, or more so, than its creation. To say that the universe's existence is improbably implies that God's existence is equally or more improbable.

Seeds of the universe?

I do not understand the second part, can you re-word the statement

 

[Shredderbeam]

Seeds of the universe?

A purely natural cause for the universe, not involving an intelligent, creator God.

I do not understand the second part, can you re-word the statement

The existence of God is more improbable than the improbability of the universe's existence. So, what created God?

 

[imnotcrazy357]

A purely natural cause for the universe, not involving an intelligent, creator God.



The existence of God is more improbable than the improbability of the universe's existence. So, what created God?

It could have. I do not deny that it is possible but, then what created the universe. It is illogical that something without all power, is able to create itself, or start existing/always have existed.


How is the existance of something that is all knowing/all powerfull more improbable then what we live in. We are stronger then the plants, and animals in this world, and some animals are stronger then others, correct? then how is it improbable that there is something stronger then us, that created us? It is even more improbable that there is nothing that could have created us.


God has always been, and has always been, in the views of my religion

 

[Shredderbeam]

It could have. I do not deny that it is possible but, then what created the universe. It is illogical that something without all power, is able to create itself, or start existing/always have existed.

The universe could have always existed, but I don't really like that idea. As to what could have created it, I have no idea, and I don't presume to think I know.

How is the existance of something that is all knowing/all powerfull more improbable then what we live in. We are stronger then the plants, and animals in this world, and some animals are stronger then others, correct? then how is it improbable that there is something stronger then us, that created us? It is even more improbable that there is nothing that could have created us.

What I'm saying is that a creator is always more complex than its creation. Always. This applies to any creator.

God has always been, and has always been, in the views of my religion

Some people think that the universe was created by quantum "borrowings" of energy from a field of energy. Why couldn't that field of energy have always existed? And what evidence to you have to show that an intelligent creator exists outside the universe?

 

[imnotcrazy357]

The universe could have always existed, but I don't really like that idea. As to what could have created it, I have no idea, and I don't presume to think I know.



What I'm saying is that a creator is always more complex than its creation. Always. This applies to any creator.



Some people think that the universe was created by quantum "borrowings" of energy from a field of energy. Why couldn't that field of energy have always existed? And what evidence to you have to show that an intelligent creator exists outside the universe?

The universe which I can see as less powerfull then God could have always existed, but to think of that would be rather ridiculous. Then the question is pondered how could it always be. Thinking about how we were created always seems to lead back to there must be a creator, with logical thinking, It might not be God, but something had to create it, When you have nothing, you cannot form something.



Yes God is more complex the universe. Our understanding of God is just the beginning



Where did the energy come from? how can something always be there? there is no proof of energy, just how you can say there is no proof of God. They could have always existed but to think of energy field having always existed, to form the entire universe, doesnt that seem more absurd then an intelligent creator.

None, I have NO evidence, other then my faith. I am not retorting to "have faith" but the facts that a man thousands of years ago says that there is someone in control of whats happening. I have also read autobiographies about those who have had this "faith" have had MANY spectacular coincidences happen upon hopping for these coincidences.

 

[Shredderbeam]

When you have nothing, you cannot form something.

At one point, wasn't there nothing? If so, how could you have anything?

Yes God is more complex the universe. Our understanding of God is just the beginning

Then his existence is less probable than the universe's.

Where did the energy come from? how can something always be there?

Questions that also apply to God. However, I do not believe in this theory.

None, I have NO evidence, other then my faith. I am not retorting to "have faith" but the facts that a man thousands of years ago says that there is someone in control of whats happening.

Faith is basically delusion. It is accepting something with no evidence to back it up.

I have also read autobiographies about those who have had this "faith" have had MANY spectacular coincidences happen upon hopping for these coincidences.

Many of these people exaggerate. Also, what of those who have such faith, and don't get amazing benefits? I'm sure the spectacular stories are usually the ones highlighted by the media.

 

[Typhoon]

I think the universe has just always been there. I know it was difficult to believe at first but think about it .