How were we created?

[the_wippit]

Specifically, what parts of a human could not have evolved?

Also, monkeys are not destined to evolve into humans.

there isnt a part of a human that couldn't have evolved, i said that the parts of the body that arnt physical couldn't have been created from the big bang. but as for evolution, if monkeys arnt destined to become humans it stills means that they are the essence of humans, and humans are nothing more then smart monkeys? and im sorry but looking at the beauty of the human body and mind i find i hard to believe that we are nothing more then smart monkeys dont you? plus although monkey and human DNA is 98% the same (correct me if im wrong) the difference is our minds/souls whatever you wana call it because it couldn't have evolved from monkeys

 

[Shredderbeam]

there isnt a part of a human that couldn't have evolved, i said that the parts of the body that arnt physical couldn't have been created from the big bang. but as for evolution, if monkeys arnt destined to become humans it stills means that they are the essence of humans, and humans are nothing more then smart monkeys? and im sorry but looking at the beauty of the human body and mind i find i hard to believe that we are nothing more then smart monkeys dont you? plus although monkey and human DNA is 98% the same (correct me if im wrong) the difference is our minds/souls whatever you wana call it because it couldn't have evolved from monkeys

Well, hang on. The mind arises from our brain. And, if you mean the soul, what is it? Can you define it?

 

[the_wippit]

Well, hang on. The mind arises from our brain. And, if you mean the soul, what is it? Can you define it?

thats true, but love is an emotion, yes its caused by the brain, but if you say its survival of the fittest, evolving to survive, why did we evolve the parts of the brain that create love? i don't mean lust there is a huge difference. There was no need for certain human emotion that came about so why did they evolve? of course evolution has un-answerable questions but then again so does almost all idealisms/religions

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

If your refrence to the flood is a joke, then wow your hularious!

The Flood is not only mentioned in Christianity, but over 1,000's of other religions, beleive that there has been a world wide flood. If your trying to joke of the gaurden with a flood, something you also don't beleive be stating that happened, the evidence of a flood as far more great then you would of expected.



The Biblical Garden of Eden was taken away from man because of his sins. The Bible says Eden was located east of Israel where four rivers meet--The Tigris and Euphrates and the Pison and Gihon. The later two have long been considered mythical; however recent satellite photography suggests these rivers did exist in Iraq. Another theory places Eden's location beneath the Black Sea. Do texts other than the Bible reinforce the idea of Eden? Both the Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh and Ancient Greek texts speak of a paradise lost.

Historically, you have a strong case for it. But it takes a lot of faith to believe in a worldwide flood.

As for supreme intelligence - K, some places teach it. but your links agree with me in saying that it's obvious why creationism has no scientific merit. No one will take you seriously if you get an education in Kansas now.

 

[Shredderbeam]

thats true, but love is an emotion, yes its caused by the brain, but if you say its survival of the fittest, evolving to survive, why did we evolve the parts of the brain that create love? i don't mean lust there is a huge difference. There was no need for certain human emotion that came about so why did they evolve? of course evolution has un-answerable questions but then again so does almost all idealisms/religions

Love is a survival advantage. If you love your spouse, you'll be more likely to have sex more than those who don't, thus producing more children.

 

[the_wippit]

Love is a survival advantage. If you love your spouse, you'll be more likely to have sex more than those who don't, thus producing more children.

what about when u have a best friend? andspouse cheats on you? that has nothing to do with survival that would actually give you more chances of having off spring not less

also how come when u have a best friend that have a filial love for???

 

[Shredderbeam]

what about when u have a best friend? andspouse cheats on you? that has nothing to do with survival that would actually give you more chances of having off spring not less

If your spouse cheats on you, that could be that she doesn't love you anymore, she has sexual urges towards somebody else, etc. I don't see how that makes your case stronger.

also how come when u have a best friend that have a filial love for???

Two people are stronger than one, more likely to catch food, etc.

 

[the_wippit]

If your spouse cheats on you, that could be that she doesn't love you anymore, she has sexual urges towards somebody else, etc. I don't see how that makes your case stronger.



Two people are stronger than one, more likely to catch food, etc.

no no no as fo r the first one i ment how come it breaks your heart, and its hard to move on, that not something that would help you, so why is it there?

so you really think that every emotion is simply there for survival? please explain pitty, fear of rejection, wanting to be excepted, and please explain homosexuality then thats something that is the opposite of survival its impossible to multiply if your gay? does that not prove that love is love connecting to another person not just for re-generation?

 

[PurpleDragon O Doom]

Couldn't it be possible every being in the known and unknown universe came from the implosion and explosion of a massive star?
Were we all created from the debris of a star that ran out of fuel and was overpowered and eaten by itself? Could be ..
Scientist HAVE tried to prove that we were made from the dust of the earth..
Lets try to trace back, shall we?
Is the Earth merely debris from the explosive of a Massive star wandering aimlessly in space?
This could be a very interesting theory.

"We were all created from a massive ball of plasma that exploded billions of years ago!" :]

 

[Shredderbeam]

no no no as fo r the first one i ment how come it breaks your heart, and its hard to move on, that not something that would help you, so why is it there?

It's a complex melding of emotions, anger, betrayal, etc.

Also, we are programmed to feel this way by society. Consider other societies that are so radically different to ours that members have no qualms about watching their parents die.

so you really think that every emotion is simply there for survival?

I do.

please explain pitty

Members of a group helping one another are more likely to survive.

fear of rejection, wanting to be excepted

Being part of a group increases your chance of survival.

and please explain homosexuality then thats something that is the opposite of survival its impossible to multiply if your gay? does that not prove that love is love connecting to another person not just for re-generation?

Well, we don't know what genes exactly influence homosexuality. One theory holds that Xq28, a gene in the X-chromosome, when either present, or turned on in women, produces a very strong desire to have many children. Clearly this is a survival advantage. The theory also holds that if this gene is passed onto men, they would also be strongly attracted to men.

However, current research indicates that homosexuality is mainly due to the environment in which you grow up.

 

[Box Of Candy]

Monkey -> MonkeyMan -> Man. Done. Just like that.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

Monkey -> MonkeyMan -> Man. Done. Just like that.

MonkeyMan is nowhere to be found.

 

[WinterDreamZ4]

This is not meant to be religious discussion.

Erm... why did you name it "How were we created?" then

 

[Shredderbeam]

MonkeyMan is nowhere to be found.

Africa doesn't make for very good fossils.

 

[Tyranic]

We were created from star material. In order for some of the complex and heavier molocules to have formed, stars must have undergone fusion. So in a way, we are made up of stars.

 

[verryberry10]

thank you for replying to my thread. Yes, stars did give us the materials needed to support life on earth, or at least thats what we all think.

keep posting please!

-verry

 

[Phuck Buddy]

well when a mommy and a daddy love each other (or there drunk, or a condom breaks etc etc) then 9 or so months later, TA DA
thats how we were created

 

[the_wippit]

It's a complex melding of emotions, anger, betrayal, etc.

thanks but wasn't looking for a definition, i know that its a mixture of emotions but why? why would it be put there in evolution if it doesn't help us but does the opposite

Well, we don't know what genes exactly influence homosexuality. One theory holds that Xq28, a gene in the X-chromosome, when either present, or turned on in women, produces a very strong desire to have many children. Clearly this is a survival advantage. The theory also holds that if this gene is passed onto men, they would also be strongly attracted to men.

However, current research indicates that homosexuality is mainly due to the environment in which you grow up.

However, current research indicates that homosexuality is mainly due to the environment in which you grow up.

those are just theroys...

 

[Shredderbeam]

thanks but wasn't looking for a definition, i know that its a mixture of emotions but why? why would it be put there in evolution if it doesn't help us but does the opposite

I should have clarified: The emotions that it is a mixture of are those that are survival aides.

those are just theroys...

Well first, a theory is a well substantiated body of facts, explanations, and predictions.

Second, there has been some tentative research done on Xq28, and it seems promising so far.

 

[WhereIsTheGod]

I think his point was that emotions are often more worse for survival than not - such as when anger clouds your judgment.

That doesn't help the group effort.