Judaism V Islam V Christianity

[Duh Hello]

I've looked into these 3 religions, Judaism, Islam , Christianity and find them to be somewhat similar. They share many common stories, (eg. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, etc.). The Muslims believe that these 3 religions all believe in the same God, and that God released the Torah (Judaism), Bible ( Christianity), and the Quran (Islam), but the Torah and Bible were "tampered with" and became what they are today, straying away from the original teachings of said books. Could these religions really have stemmed from the same place? Or is it all a big hoax?

edit: people turned this into a religion war, asking for thread to be closed.

 

They are all Abrahamic religions, tracing a common root back to Abraham, if that's what you mean. Not exactly sure what you're asking here..

 

[RLdiamond]

I've looked into these 3 religions, Judaism, Islam , Christianity and find them to be somewhat similar. They share many common stories, (eg. Adam and Eve, Noah's Ark, etc.). The Muslims believe that these 3 religions all believe in the same God, and that God released the Torah (Judaism), Bible ( Christianity), and the Quran (Islam), but the Torah and Bible were "tampered with" and became what they are today, straying away from the original teachings of said books. Could these religions really have stemmed from the same place? Or is it all a big hoax?

Unfortunately, this subject results in MASS debates all over the world and plenty of opinions surf the web due to lack of knowledge... Throughtout my experience, i truly believe every person has to look for himself and search for what he thinks is right and logic, its the only way to believe in what you believe!

if you want my personal analysis, without getting further in depth of this subject I will answer your generalized subject with a generalized answer, I truly believe that it is TRUE... The 3 mentioned religions come from the same stem and they all share the same basic principles... First came the Turah, then the Bible came for the SAME people who believed in Turah, only they were divided between believers and non believers of Bible, afterwards the Quran came, also for the same people who believed in Turah and the Bible, again they were divided into 3, the ones who believed in only Turah, the ones who believes in Bible and Turah, Finally, The ones who believe in Quran, who also believe in Bible AND Turah however they believe they have been tampered with, which i also believe is TRUE.

 

[Duh Hello]

Unfortunately, this subject results in MASS debates all over the world and plenty of opinions surf the web due to lack of knowledge... Throughtout my experience, i truly believe every person has to look for himself and search for what he thinks is right and logic, its the only way to believe in what you believe!

if you want my personal analysis, without getting further in depth of this subject I will answer your generalized subject with a generalized answer, I truly believe that it is TRUE... The 3 mentioned religions come from the same stem and they all share the same basic principles... First came the Turah, then the Bible came for the SAME people who believed in Turah, only they were divided between believers and non believers of Bible, afterwards the Quran came, also for the same people who believed in Turah and the Bible, again they were divided into 3, the ones who believed in only Turah, the ones who believes in Bible and Turah, Finally, The ones who believe in Quran, who also believe in Bible AND Turah however they believe they have been tampered with, which i also believe is TRUE.

Got it, thanks

 

[Spyder69]

The word "Bible" literally translates into "library," or a close variation thereof. I don't see how the Torah was tempered with, the only way one can justify the word "tempered" in relation to the Bible is because the Bible was put together as an effort of the Roman Emperor, and the Council of Nicaea, to unify Christianity; each book in the bible is separate from the rest, it's literally nothing but a collection of books- Jews have followed the same Hebrew bible for several millennia. Islam doesn't really share parallels with Christianity or Judaism, other than Islam claims it stems from the same biblical figures such as Moses, which makes zero sense doctrine wise.

 

[RLdiamond]

Islam doesn't really share parallels with Christianity or Judaism, other than Islam claims it stems from the same biblical figures such as Moses, which makes zero sense doctrine wise.

I would really hate to enter a debate about this subject, however it will kill me to not say that you are wrong my friend... I will cut this here and my advice is simply learn more about Islam.. learn the right way.. you will realize that Islam doesn't only share parallelism with Christianity and Judaism, it is also a follow up/Add on to these religions and it shares similar goals and similar way of living... The hijab for example, you are aware that virgin Mary used to wear it? etc...

 

[Duh Hello]

I would really hate to enter a debate about this subject, however it will kill me to not say that you are wrong my friend... I will cut this here and my advice is simply learn more about Islam.. learn the right way.. you will realize that Islam doesn't only share parallelism with Christianity and Judaism, it is also a follow up/Add on to these religions and it shares similar goals and similar way of living... The hijab for example, you are aware that virgin Mary used to wear it? etc...

Agreed. There are many examples you could use to verify that these religions do share parallels.

 

[Spyder69]

I would really hate to enter a debate about this subject, however it will kill me to not say that you are wrong my friend... I will cut this here and my advice is simply learn more about Islam.. learn the right way.. you will realize that Islam doesn't only share parallelism with Christianity and Judaism, it is also a follow up/Add on to these religions and it shares similar goals and similar way of living... The hijab for example, you are aware that virgin Mary used to wear it? etc...

I think instead of the word "parallel" you're looking for the word "borrowed" from Judaism. Such as the "hijab" you'd like to refer to, didn't originate within Islam. I've read the Quran, and it doesn't "share" anything with Christianity and Judaism other than the fact it borrows from Jewish/biblical figures. Moses, Jesus, Mary, etc were not Muslims.

If Muhammad/ the Quran were to be an addition to Judaism/Christianity, it wouldn't have the litany of laws that pertain to a specific religious following, and would most parallel with the New Testament. IE: OT was fulfilled, all of the "old ways" should have been done away with, Islam did nothing but usher in another Old Testament type of laws and way of thinking.

I'll gladly debate this though, Islam, the Quran, is nothing but contradictory to the teachings of the very person(s) you proclaim to be "prophets" in Islam.

 

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I would really hate to enter a debate about this subject, however it will kill me to not say that you are wrong my friend... I will cut this here and my advice is simply learn more about Islam.. learn the right way.. you will realize that Islam doesn't only share parallelism with Christianity and Judaism, it is also a follow up/Add on to these religions and it shares similar goals and similar way of living... The hijab for example, you are aware that virgin Mary used to wear it? etc...

What really differs Islam to the other to major religions is that muslims believes it was Ismail\Ismael\Ishmael who was the one to be sacrificed and that the prophet Muhammad is a descendant of him, If I am not mistaken christianity and Judaism says it was Isaac who was the one to be sacrificed.

 

[Spyder69]

What really differs Islam to the other to major religions

Do you know what Sharia law is, Islamic law.

 

[RLdiamond]

I'll gladly debate this though, Islam, the Quran, is nothing but contradictory to the teachings of the very person(s) you proclaim to be "prophets" in Islam.

For someone to say such a statement, your either just a kid behind a screen who read some crap over the internet and now trying to be wise throwing some pubic shit in the air, or your a wise person who is truly searching and trying to figure out the truth by himself.

If that is the case, I am also sure you would be open minded and not attached to one side of "belief's" that also means you if one day you discover something that contradicts your current thoughts, you would not go ignorant and blind afraid of changing your biggest beliefs.
I am just saying that because this is how human nature are, and millions share the same state of mind that i mentioned above, pushing these stupid people into fighting and debating a wrong perspectives, However I am pretty sure If you aren't that kid i mentioned behind the screen....then you are also not one of these people,you are a well educated man who is simply searching for truth and logic..

With all that being said, and also before i go any further, I would like to clarify that never said I was a Muslim, this is not about me.

Now I would like to ask you after my minor introduction, it was necessary to allow myself to reply once you answer my question, How in the world did you analyze that the Holy Quran is a contradictory to the teachings of the very person Islam proclaims to be a prophet? I would really like to see some examples, since you have read the Quran right?

Please enlighten me with your wisdom and analysis.

 

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Do you know what Sharia law is, Islamic law.

Hey, yes I do. Do you know what Halakha is? Obv the split is what really differs them.

 

[RLdiamond]

What really differs Islam to the other to major religions is that muslims believes it was Ismail\Ismael\Ishmael who was the one to be sacrificed and that the prophet Muhammad is a descendant of him, If I am not mistaken christianity and Judaism says it was Isaac who was the one to be sacrificed.

No, this believe is the Sheea, Its a type of religion originated from Islam.. Similar to Christianity where there is catholics etc,, islam has sheea,sunni etc...

 

[Spyder69]

For someone to say such a statement, your either just a kid behind a screen who read some crap over the internet and now trying to be wise throwing some pubic shit in the air, or your a wise person who is truly searching and trying to figure out the truth by himself.

If that is the case, I am also sure you would be open minded and not attached to one side of "belief's" that also means you if one day you discover something that contradicts your current thoughts, you would not go ignorant and blind afraid of changing your biggest beliefs.
I am just saying that because this is how human nature are, and millions share the same state of mind that i mentioned above, pushing these stupid people into fighting and debating a wrong perspectives, However I am pretty sure If you aren't that kid i mentioned behind the screen....then you are also not one of these people,you are a well educated man who is simply searching for truth and logic..

It almost seems to me you want to discuss human nature, rather than religious doctrine. I'm simply concerned about religious doctrine.

With all that being said, and also before i go any further, I would like to clarify that never said I was a Muslim, this is not about me.

Now I would like to ask you after my minor introduction, it was necessary to allow myself to reply once you answer my question, How in the world did you analyze that the Holy Quran is a contradictory to the teachings of the very person Islam proclaims to be a prophet? I would really like to see some examples, since you have read the Quran right?

Please enlighten me with your wisdom and analysis.

Lets address Jesus, who is seen as a prophet in Islam, but not recognized as the messiah. Where in Islamic law do Jesus' teachings come into play? We can water it down to say, "Christianity." What parallels does Islam share with Christianity?

Women are not equal under Islamic law, that is a doctrinal fact. Where in the teachings of Jesus is it that women are inferior to men? And where did He usher in or allude to law that would parallel with Mosaic law, law He came to fulfill?

EDIT: Also, Mosaic law applied only to Israel/the Jews. Islamic law is applicable to non-Muslims, it is also unfair in application to non-Muslims, especially in courts.

Hey, yes I do. Do you know what Halakha is? Obv the split is what really differs them.

It doesn't apply to non-Jews. Sharia law does apply to unbelievers in Islam.

 

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Lets address Jesus, who is seen as a prophet in Islam, but not recognized as the messiah. Where in Islamic law do Jesus' teachings come into play? We can water it down to say, "Christianity." What parallels does Islam share with Christianity?

Let's address Jesus who is not recognized as the messiah in Judaism. Parallel, there you go

 

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No, this believe is the Sheea, Its a type of religion originated from Islam.. Similar to Christianity where there is catholics etc,, islam has sheea,sunni etc...

Hi, no. The differences between Shiite muslims and sunni muslims is about the descendant of Muhammad.

 

[Spyder69]

Let's address Jesus who is not recognized as the messiah in Judaism. Parallel, there you go

And this parallel is supposed to mean what exactly doctrine wise? You do realize the discussion that is being had has to do with doctrine, not whether or not so-and-so is recognized as x, y and z.

The only time it needs to be addressed is when addressing seniority/importance within the religion and said person's influence within the religion.

I'll say this once, you aren't interested in discussion, you're only interested in shit-posting.

 

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It doesn't apply to non-Jews. Sharia law does apply to unbelievers in Islam.

And Law in Congo, appplies to congolese people and non congolese people. American Law applies to americans and non-americans. Can you please explain to me what you're trying to say?

 

[Spyder69]

And Law in Congo, appplies to congolese people and non congolese people. American Law applies to americans and non-americans. Can you please explain to me what you're trying to say?

You proclaim the biggest difference between the three major religions is who was sacrificed. I brought up a much bigger difference, which would be religious law between the religions.

I'm not sure you fully understand what specifically is being debated here.

 

[RLdiamond]

Lets address Jesus, who is seen as a prophet in Islam, but not recognized as the messiah. Where in Islamic law do Jesus' teachings come into play? We can water it down to say, "Christianity." What parallels does Islam share with Christianity?

You just proved to me you are the kid behind the screen that I have previously mentioned.. I will mention a few points below and that will be my final post in this thread as obviously you need to do allot of research, and obviously you are a LIER, you have never read the Quran.

Lets address Jesus, who is seen as a prophet in Islam, but not recognized as the messiah. Where in Islamic law do Jesus' teachings come into play? We can water it down to say, "Christianity." What parallels does Islam share with Christianity?

Where did you copy that from? Did you even understand what you read or u just copied some crap? First of all, do you know what Messieh means? it means "The Christian" in arabic, it is simply what arabic christian people call Jesus AKA Yasoooua AKA Messieh AKA EESA. so your first sentence is CRAP. To clarify further, Islam identifies Jesus as a prophet and is loved similar to how much Mohammad is loved, Moreover, logically since Islam share this love with prophet EESA AKA JESUS, obviously they share every teachings that Jesus brought his people. In Islam, are you aware that ALL prophets are loved and if any human would follow all the mentioned prophits, they will be awarded with HASANA? Hasana is the good deed written on your right shoulder that will balance on judgement day to decide your fate. In short, the difference between Islam and Christanity when it comes to Jesus is that Christianity believes that Jesus is son of god, Islam totally disagrees and claims to be only ONE GOD, while Jesus is ONLY a prophet, not son/or a GOD.

So if Islam believe when you follow prophets, you get a HASANA, how the hell can they contradict with Jesus's teachings? I can give you millions of detailed examples if you would've shared a detailed example in return. Trust me do your research and you will realize the Parallel you are talking about exist and its much more obvious, you simply have to search instead of talk u fool. anyways to continue...

Women are not equal under Islamic law, that is a doctrinal fact. Where in the teachings of Jesus is it that women are inferior to men? And where did He usher in or allude to law that would parallel with Mosaic law, law He came to fulfill?

Thats exactly the kind of shit you would see in the media, again, as usual Media has an audience of ignorant fools, if they arent, the media MAKES YOU!

"Observe your duty to Allah in respect to the women, and treat them well."
This comes from Prophet Mohammad S.A.W, search it fool.. hold on am not done yet!

"O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them." Soora Al Nisaa 4:19

I can go all day where the Quran talks about Woman and the importance of Woman and how they should be respected and treated... Woman have rights in the Quran almost exceeding the rights men have btw, are you aware if you gift/give a woman something, you are not allowed to ask for it back? such as gold etc..

EDIT: Also, Mosaic law applied only to Israel/the Jews. Islamic law is applicable to non-Muslims, it is also unfair in application to non-Muslims, especially in courts.

BITCH PLEASE!! wdf are you saying ! Mosaic law and islamic law? Courts? non muslims and muslims?


Go invest your time in more authentic research bro.. for real