Donate to sythe directly

riwu · Feb 6, 2015

This is the first site i've come across that doesn't allow direct donations. Instead it relies on 'bond holders' and incurs unnecessary middleman fees for the donor, eg. a $25 donor rank would cost ~$35...

If chargeback is a concern if direct paypal donations were to be accepted, why not make it such that the rank will only be awarded after 45 days (or however long it takes to make chargeback impossible), so that users have a choice of getting a donor rank at the actual cost with a 45 days delay?

Tyler · Feb 6, 2015

riwu said:
This is the first site i've come across that doesn't allow direct donations. Instead it relies on 'bond holders' and incurs unnecessary middleman fees for the donor, eg. a $25 donor rank would cost ~$35...

If chargeback is a concern if direct paypal donations were to be accepted, why not make it such that the rank will only be awarded after 45 days (or however long it takes to make chargeback impossible), so that users have a choice of getting a donor rank at the actual cost with a 45 days delay?

chargebacks are 6 months.

thats why

Also I accept 1:1 donations via paypal for trusted and 1:1 methods for rsgp

KaysHD · Feb 6, 2015

This or at least provide an option to take the middleman route or the delay route.

Edit: I revoke my previous statement. Wasn't aware of the chargeback time being 6 months.

Tyler · Feb 6, 2015

no need, as long as you've previously donated (even $5) and meet certain requirments as per join date/posts you can donate for yourself.

Dream bot · Feb 6, 2015

I support this. If anything then don't accept paypal, only accept moneybookers etc.

Wonderland · Feb 6, 2015

The delay is too long and undesirable. It's fine as it is.

n4n0 · Feb 6, 2015

A big reason behind disallowing direct donations is the sheer turnover risk.

There is a pretty substantial amount of serial ban evaders who Scam, Get banned, Evade, Build trust, scam, get banned, etc, etc, you get the picture.

A lot of these guys will come back on a new account, donate anywhere from $25-100+ via a bond holder, build up a little trust then scamquit.

If direct payments were accepted, these users would instead just charge back the paypal payments, creating issues for sythes paypal account, as well as give these repeat offenders a method of refunding/refuting their payments. At least via bond holders with RSGP or other non-refundable methods, they legitimately have to pay out of pocket (and in some cases, overpay due to the rates the bond holder offers) and can't charge back.

Heeatz · Feb 6, 2015

BLEUSKITTLE said:
Also I accept 1:1 donations via paypal for trusted and 1:1 methods for rsgp

Doesn't look very 1:1 to me. Not quite sure where you learnt maths but you better go double check that.

OT: As stated before, who would want to wait 45 days for their donor rank to show? I think $5 and (I think its) 50 posts is needed before accepting Paypal since the risk, and that's just fine how it is. No need to change this, sorry.

n4n0 · Feb 6, 2015

Heeatz said:
Doesn't look very 1:1 to me. Not quite sure where you learnt maths but you better go double check that.

OT: As stated before, who would want to wait 45 days for their donor rank to show? I think $5 and (I think its) 50 posts is needed before accepting Paypal since the risk, and that's just fine how it is. No need to change this, sorry.

He said 1:1 from trusted.

And to comment on your OT:

I believe it's $5, 100 posts, and a member for 30-60 days or something. I believe there's a restriction on how long you've been on the site as well.

Tyler · Feb 6, 2015

Heeatz said:
Doesn't look very 1:1 to me. Not quite sure where you learnt maths but you better go double check that.

OT: As stated before, who would want to wait 45 days for their donor rank to show? I think $5 and (I think its) 50 posts is needed before accepting Paypal since the risk, and that's just fine how it is. No need to change this, sorry.

I accept 1:1 donations via paypal for trusted

paypal for trusted

paypal for trusted

pls tell me more heeatz I crie everytime.

Also n4no we cant prevent chargebacks completely, but we limit them, thats why for untrusted users most bond holders charge a fee

n4n0 · Feb 6, 2015

BLEUSKITTLE said:
Also n4no we cant prevent chargebacks completely, but we limit them, thats why for untrusted users most bond holders charge a fee

Yes, I am aware of this. I never said you could prevent chargebacks. My comment about no chargebacks was in regards to those who pay via RSGP or other non-refundable methods.

Edit: Edited my other post to clarify that. It wasn't worded very well.

Tyler · Feb 6, 2015

n4n0 said:
Yes, I am aware of this. I never said you could prevent chargebacks. My comment about no chargebacks was in regards to those who pay via RSGP or other non-refundable methods.

my bad must have mis read this.

n4n0 said:
At least via bond holders, they legitimately have to pay out of pocket (and in some cases, overpay due to the rates the bond holder offers) and can't charge back.

n4n0 · Feb 6, 2015

n4n0 said:
Edit: Edited my other post to clarify that. It wasn't worded very well.

BLEUSKITTLE said:
my bad must have mis read this.

You replied as I edited. In case you didn't see it.

^_^

kushl9ve · Feb 6, 2015

Anyone know if I'm able to donate $25 via direct (verified) paypal? Don't really wanna spend $30+ to get a $25 rank..

EDIT: nvm, I'll probably first donate $5 soon, than I'll get $25 later on. Thanks for the help.

Tyler · Feb 6, 2015

kushl9ve said:
Anyone know if I'm able to donate $25 via direct (verified) paypal? Don't really wanna spend $30+ to get a $25 rank..

You would to have previously donated, or go through a bond holder.

Heeatz · Feb 6, 2015

kushl9ve said:
Anyone know if I'm able to donate $25 via direct (verified) paypal? Don't really wanna spend $30+ to get a $25 rank..

Spend $10 getting a $5 donation, then donate after that, as the options free up for you.

BLEUSKITTLE said:
I accept 1:1 donations via paypal for trusted

paypal for trusted

paypal for trusted

pls tell me more heeatz I crie everytime.

r2p: hi bleu can i donate 1:1?
shittle: sorry no sir not trusted

Sythe: hi shittle can i donate 1:1?
shittle: no sorry sir no trust

This is my point.

R · Feb 6, 2015

To donate direct the requirements are:
- Be a donor
- Have 100 posts
- Be a member for 2 weeks

So you only really have to overpay a tad for the 5$ rank and be around for a bit before you can donate directly - it's not much to ask to give assurance that you'll probably stick around and not take your donation back.

Dev · Feb 6, 2015

Why wouldn't we be able to donate with Bitcoin etc.
I think that would be a great idea! I also support this.

Cas · Feb 6, 2015

This is not a suggestion, but a question.
You can donate to Sythe directly, but you HAVE to meet the requirements stated by Roary.

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