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  1. Unread #161 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:23 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    We need more mods because we hardly have any. Mods are supposed to be seen throughout the community. They should be active and be seen posting. They should be cleaning up forums BEFORE they get reported. Spam reports should be the community HELPING the mods not the way that moderators moderate.

    I'm not sure how / why you think promotions do not matter when we need more mods. They are 100% related. So are mod logs.

    Why do you attack people? It isn't helpful. The job of a moderator is not to moderate. We have already been over this. It has defacto become that after the administration and mod log changes and I do not believe it is a change for the better. I don't think it is really possible for anyone to defend that position either. Tgump? Megamatt? The UE? Hell the FAQ I did?

    I mean that is essentially the point. It used to be that sectionals moderated their forums and would do any spam reports that came in. Globals would handle scam reports, bans, disputes, etc. Hell we even had a time where we didn't even have any globals and had 9000 mods so they had to come up with more to do than spam reports. Hell I don't even think it needs to be a question. Why should they even be staff if they are not willing to go above and beyond?

    No because we do not have a scientific study of Sythe activity with mod activity or not. All I know is that IRC died as soon as all the staff started hanging out in Skype. Sythechat was only active when Sythe and the mods were hanging out in it. Now none of them ever do and it's dead as fuck. Just look at LiveChat. It was a great way of doing shit but no one bothered since there was no mod logs attached. The whole point I'm trying to make is I don't give a fuck that Govind made the robot stuff easier. We still need mods to do live chat.

    They should be. It's not a suggestion. It's a statement of a fact. And I don't think it is a change. It's a return to how things were and should be done.

    And yet they are because of the system they are in.

    Sectionals should mod very few sections and they should read it already. I would be super happy if 90% of spam was dealt with without reports. That would be ideal.
     
  3. Unread #162 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:25 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Wat. Activity = views + posts. More posts = more activity or are you defining activity differently?
     
  5. Unread #163 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I don't even really care who is in charge. It's not like that has ever made things be changed faster.
     
  7. Unread #164 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:30 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I think it's better to have individual mods for individual sections, rather than have multiple mods who look over them all.

    This is better because the sectional mods can specialize in the specific topic whereas having a bunch of globals who don't know jack shit about a section does.. Well.. Nothing
     
  9. Unread #165 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    What exactly is your idea?

    I'm not sure what you are saying. Let me say this:

    Moderators tend to stick around longer than users. They have a reason to stay, aka or they get kicked off the team and people like being part of something exclusive. If part of their activity requirement is to post, they will post. I'm of the opinion that activity breeds activity, which make sense. Runescape is big here because Runescape is big here. So having a bunch of people that post because they want to but also because they have an incentive to is HUGE! It helps lift struggling sections that will feed upon themselves for activity.
     
  11. Unread #166 - Jun 3, 2014 at 9:54 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Lets switch to something like this alongside modscore, +1
     
  13. Unread #167 - Jun 3, 2014 at 10:06 PM
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    How is this good? This ruins the point of unique moderators and staff. It's the same as giving police a quota. Instead of focusing on big cases and such, they decide to pull over potheads because it's easier and less paperwork. By using this form you are comparing one staff to another. I understand we don't want staff who don't do anything, but it's obvious if they aren't active enough and then they can just easily be demoted. But giving the staff a quota ruins the point of being staff. You are given that rank and expected to improve the forum in some way or another. If the person isn't doing this, it's a poor choice on the admins and globals part. It's easy to just demod somebody, but it's hard to justify a quota.
     
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Its a hybrid of activity, it counts more then just doing typical mod stuff. It encourages posts outside of moderation.
     
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Maintaining is an important part of the forum. In all honesty I know why you're mad but I can't pull a bunch of community involved members out of my ass make them join sythe to contribute to the community. Sure we as a moderating team need to be more involved with discussions with the community but it won't fix the lack of activity in all honesty.
     
  19. Unread #170 - Jun 3, 2014 at 10:45 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I guess I understand there has to be a method of keeping the site organized and clean, but I disagree with a quota.
     
  21. Unread #171 - Jun 3, 2014 at 10:51 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Would a suggestion type thread for possible mod positions be wanted? Was done a few times in the past. Staff would take all top named people and vote on them.

    Just an idea to revamp things and give the community some participation
     
  23. Unread #172 - Jun 3, 2014 at 10:54 PM
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    This sounds like a good idea, but the positions being voted on would have to be decided first.
     
  25. Unread #173 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:08 PM
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    Suf, a moderators job is not to moderate? I give up, these trolls are too much.

    Have fun with a dysfunctional forum structure.
     
  27. Unread #174 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:26 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I kind of agree with him. Specific mods would control his section but also trying to make it fun and active as a community. Sythe needs more of that. I am not saying that globals are not needed. No, we have to get some for reports and whatever but do we have an increase of activity because the reports are succesfully handled by the mods?
    Yes, it causes less problems and people will come because its more safe (and I appreciate it) but having just some people to do these would be fine. Others can concentrate on their section, the improvement of their section and whatever.


    However, I wont say like some others on this thread that some mods dont have their places. I respect every mod on sythe and they are great. You guys are doing a great job and I thank you for that. I just agree that we should have more specific mods to help the community grow.
     
  29. Unread #175 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:30 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I don't think we should, but a change could be nice.
    Can you not read..?
     
  31. Unread #176 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:34 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    I actually want to help, and better this site. Granted, most of what I do is not CDT centred, but still.

    Every single thread I make, competition I hold (with monetary prizes), discussion I encourage, is to create/maintain activity, and hope that people stick around. I Believe I've done well in that regards to all sections, especially the LoL and Media section.

    I don't really see the need to parade around what I do and don't, if people are interested, they'll see.

    Search up all my threads created within the last 6 months-1 year, I'm pretty sure I'll have the most made on this site, (excluding reports) that encourage activity and that actually create discussion and participation.

    One thing I am proud of, is that we now have 150 active LoL Boosters and the LoL market is easily the second most active and populated market here on Sythe. Could surpass the RS market if played right. We are also the largest NA Boosting site. Mainly due to the fact of our Verification process.

    I solely suggested, managed and implemented (with the help of Superman and Sypherz) the LoL section its market. I still run it on my own, create all the rules for it, and without sounding vein, can say am the driving force behind it. I've personally verified 90 of the LoL Boosters (the others aren't active/don't want verification), which takes around 2 hours per verification, excluding time to report their threads, request their Verified Booster minirank etc. I also offer free LoL coaching for new Sythe users who come here for LoL Boosting/anything LoL orientated. I normally charge $18/hr. So, please, all my efforts are to better this site and hope people stick around.

    So, saying being part of CDT doesn't involve people wanting to better this site and help, is completely wrong. I help everywhere I can, and remain active in every section.


    Here is a Giveaway I'm holding at current. I found a Sponsor, and it's so far been successful. 30 entrants thus far. The sponsor wins (free advertising) and we win (increased participation).

    http://www.sythe.org/league-legends/1715354-100-prizes-lol-giveaway-event-2-a.html


    I agree with this. However, that's more so human nature. I highly doubt it's done intentionally. No one can say Roary has not/isn't trying to improve the forum. However, there is only so much one man can do.
     
  33. Unread #177 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:35 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Well i have high motivation becoming mod on the "Digital Currency and Non-Game Sales" section and mostly helping members with Bitcoins.
    Seems like the forum ignore a little bit the range of the world bitcoin community...
     
  35. Unread #178 - Jun 3, 2014 at 11:36 PM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    So a thread to decide the people who can be part of the choices to vote on ... And then another thread with the actual vote with the list we did on the other thread... and then the people with highest votes on the last thread are in a vote with mods?
     
  37. Unread #179 - Jun 4, 2014 at 12:07 AM
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    Y'all need some more mods

    Exactly, there will always be a need for globals. But at the moment, in a time of inactivity, there is a need for sectionals too. Sectionals who are specifically designated to one forum can allocate all their efforts to bringing activity to it rather than having a bunch of globals giving minimal effort.

    This section is just another market section. Market sections are relatively easy to moderate. There isn't too much a market mod can do that boosts Sythe's overall popularity other than just keeping the markets clean of spam and such. I think a big problem is the non-market sections. These are the sections that bring out real discussions and long conversations. These "Off-Topic" sections are starting to see inactivity and this is why we need staff dedicated to just the non-market sections to keep them active and promote them.

    Not really multiple threads. I assume these threads wouldn't be public anyway, they would probably be posted in the Staff lounge. (Could be wrong).. But before you can have any vote, you must first understand what positions you are voting for. I like the idea of allowing others to give their opinions on what should happen, because nothing said in the Suggestion/Feedback section really carries any weight unless a bunch of staff agree and promote the idea.
     
  39. Unread #180 - Jun 4, 2014 at 12:20 AM
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    Calling Bitcoin "off-topic" and claim it needs no support sounds more like ignorance to me.
    It is the best innovation for the last 4 years and the market it self have millions usd.
    If you ask me and almost the half world,it is much more impressive than runescape gold,and it may bring much more users using Sythe if the Bitcoin market had better adversting here.
    There is many things to be discussed than the market itself and it is rising daily.
    I said that a while ago but it seems no one spend little bit more time on this.
    The true is we need more trading and discuss activity on things which more peoples will be interesed on.
    Runescape has his best times already and i am not the only thinking it is dying slowly but surely.
    Not saying we must put rs on second place or something,but we need more attention on new important and actual markets and discusion sections.
    Only high activity can bring the attention we need.
    And Bitcoin is not the only thing which needs more attention but it is still a good suggestion.
    I am not sure and why such an large thing is ignored.
     
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