Why Socialism (and Communism) Fails and why our society is being destroyed

No such thing as voluntary slavery. It's a contradiction in terms.

 

No. It's either a gun to your head or it's not. Which is it?

I should be open minded? Firstly, why? Why should I be? Do you have an argument or are you just invoking meaningless bromides and popular prejudice?

Secondly, even assuming that being open-minded is of value to me, it has nothing whatsoever to do with being illogical. So why then, should I accept a contradiction?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_utility

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_theory_of_value

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour

If nobody benefits from a trade then there would be no trade in the first place. The only reason people trade is because both parties get something by it.

For example: you value a newspaper more than the dollar in your post, because you have no newspaper but many dollars, and you want a newspaper, and the newspaper salesman values your dollar more than his newspaper, because he has many newspapers and few dollars, and wants your dollar. So you trade and you are both better off for it. This is an increase in wealth, and this fact can be shown by imagining the scenario absent the trade...

If you want a newspaper but there are no printing presses or journalists or people who already have newspapers to trade with, then you would have to expend an enormous amount of energy to go out and make a newspaper from nothing. Having instead traded for your newspaper, you have leveraged the education and capital goods of others, and thereby gained the end result of this incredibly expensive process at almost no cost to you, and, likewise, the person with whom you have traded will experience the same gain in wealth, as you had to offer specialized goods or services to another in order to get your dollar.

Trade inherently leads to an increase in wealth for both parties through specialization, the division of labour, individual preferences, and the law of marginal utility. If it did not then people would not do it.

Please educate yourself before attempting to educate others.

 

Correct.

What's your point?

 

I still don't see your point.

We already have laws against bad behaviour. What do drugs have to do with it?

 

Your premise is ridiculous. Are you saying that people lack volition? Are you saying that as soon as something dangerous is discovered everyone within 20km has no choice other than to put it in their bodies?

I mean your argument is as ridiculous as this:
"People should be banned from owning cars because if they deliberately fall asleep at the wheel they can kill people."

It's stupid. What a waste of time. We have laws against bad behaviour already. You would propose to micromanage other people's lives because you think they're stupid. I say: You're stupid! Manage your own damn life!

 

It's an insulting question. Frankly, it's perverse. Of what business is it of yours what I do with the property of my own body? As long as I don't destroy or damage your property the answer is NONE. And that I "might" hurt someone is not the same as actually hurting someone. You might become the next Hitler and slaughter 50 million people or you might start a riot and burn down a city. Should we therefore lock you up, just in case? Remove the part of your brain that incites riots and deals with charisma? Restrict your information to ensure harmlessness?

Or perhaps you are you claiming personal omnipotence: that you know every facet of every person's life better than they do, and consequently what is best for them? Is that what you're trying to claim here?

Those drugs are legal. And the non-aggression axiom deals with bad behaviour, irrespective of its cause. What you do with your own property is your business.

I might add also aside from being just disgusting on a moral level, your argument is also internally inconsistent.

If it is OK for you to tell me what I can and can't do based on your predictions of future events, then it is OK for me to do the same to you based on my predictions of the future. My prediction is that you're an idiot and can't manage your own life let alone mine, and that you should not undertake such an enterprise. Thus the argument leads to a contradiction. Everyone is master to everyone, no one can make a decision.