Adblock breaks this site

Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

Discussion in 'Something For All' started by LethalSh0ts, Aug 26, 2009.

  1. LethalSh0ts

    LethalSh0ts Forum Addict
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Posts:
    623
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    I'm not a muslim myself, but I have some muslim friends who drink alcohol and claim that they're still muslims.
    My opinion is that to be a muslim (to be different from a Christian or Jew) you've got to believe in their profit and you've got to believe in God. whether you break the rules or not doesn't say whether you're a muslim or not.

    Shoot on me :)
     
  2. LethalSh0ts

    LethalSh0ts Forum Addict
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Posts:
    623
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Well this depends on what people think of "their own reality". But on the other hand, people define "reality to themselves" as their own meaning of correctness and truth. But these are just merely vague concepts. So what I'm trying to say is that Moslims nowadays live by their own reality and they can still call themselves Muslims? Or do they have to live by all the requiments that the Quran gives to be calling themselves Muslims??
     
  3. Schnell

    Schnell Guru

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2007
    Posts:
    1,011
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    I'm not familiar with the Muslim belief, but I would ask them the same question I ask to Christians. Who are they to decide which parts of the book should be followed and what can be ignored?
     
  4. Skurwysynu

    Skurwysynu Member
    Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Posts:
    39
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    muslims have posts and they cant drink
     
  5. T R 1 B A L

    T R 1 B A L Grand Master
    Retired Sectional Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    Posts:
    2,726
    Referrals:
    1
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    I'm a drinking muslim, and yes, i still believe i'm muslim.

    Alcohol wasn't banned for muslims until a drunkard in an islamic state, long ago, beat his mother to death because he was under the influence.
     
  6. Rohail

    Rohail The MiddleMan
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Posts:
    2,751
    Referrals:
    2
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    I'm muslim. That part would only pertain to the food you eat. If the peopel drink alchohol, they really can't be called muslim. Do they pray etc?
     
  7. Rushie

    Rushie Apprentice

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2009
    Posts:
    633
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Are you allowed to be called a Jew if you eat pork?
    Are you allowed to be called a Christian if you have sex before marriage?
    Are you allowed to be called a Buddhist if you are violent?

    The list goes on.
     
  8. wizardzgame

    wizardzgame Apprentice
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2007
    Posts:
    966
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    That's like saying if you're still considered a human if you're missing a finger, sure but you aren't a complete one.
     
  9. GRiMeR

    GRiMeR Newcomer

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2009
    Posts:
    2
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    nicely put
     
  10. runescapez

    runescapez Forum Addict
    Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Posts:
    549
    Referrals:
    3
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    YES , you are called a Muslim If you Drank Alcohol
    But...

    I am a Muslim , I speak Arabic , I can Read Qur'an In Arabic .

    Well.. it is called a "khtee'a" Which means A BIG BAD WRONG Thing!

    I don't know what do english muslims say it in English actually...


    You are CALLED A MUSLIM AS LONG AS YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD IS ONE WHICH IS ALLAH AND MOHAMED IS HIS PROPHET !

    Now .. let us close this thread As question is answered =]
     
  11. LethalSh0ts

    LethalSh0ts Forum Addict
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2009
    Posts:
    623
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    My opinion is the similar as tribal's & Runescapez opinion.
     
  12. T R 1 B A L

    T R 1 B A L Grand Master
    Retired Sectional Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2007
    Posts:
    2,726
    Referrals:
    1
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    You've completely got the wrong idea. It's not a complete kharam like say pork, though it is a sin nonetheless.

    Basically, yes but it's a sin.
     
  13. runescapez

    runescapez Forum Addict
    Banned

    Joined:
    May 31, 2008
    Posts:
    549
    Referrals:
    3
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Qur'an Says That it is Wrong .. & it's A SIN but it never said that you are not a muslim IF Drank Any thing that gets you drunk!
     
  14. Rohail

    Rohail The MiddleMan
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2009
    Posts:
    2,751
    Referrals:
    2
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Exactly. If you want the specfic quote/ arabic writing, I can try looking for it later on. But it is specified in the Qur'an.
     
  15. Rabs

    Rabs Guru
    Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2008
    Posts:
    1,537
    Referrals:
    1
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    If, according to the religion - drinking alcohol removes you from the religion, - then you are not a muslim.

    You can't base this on personal perception or opinions..
     
  16. Syed

    Syed Hero
    Retired Sectional Moderator $50 USD Donor New

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2009
    Posts:
    9,857
    Referrals:
    1
    Sythe Gold:
    11
    Sythe Awards 2012 Winner Gohan has AIDS (3) ??? Rust Player I'm LAAAAAAAME (2) Shitting Rainbow (2)
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    4:43 You who believe, do not come anywhere near the prayer if you are intoxicated, until you know what you are saying . . .
    2:219 They ask you [Prophet] about intoxicants and gambling: say, "There is great sin in both, and some benefit for people: the sin is greater than the benefit."
    5:90 You who believe, intoxicants and gambling, idolatrous practices, and [divining with] arrows are repugnant acts—Satan’s doing: shun them so that you may prosper. 91 With intoxicants and gambling, Satan seeks only to incite enmity and hatred among you, and to stop you remembering God and prayer. Will you not give them up?
    (vol. 3, p. 155).All the Muslims stopped drinking. Once the command was given, all wine containers were emptied and broken throughout Madinah [Medina]. Indeed, those who were in the process of drinking did not swallow what was in their mouths when they were informed of the prohibition. It was, thus, a great triumph for the Qur’an and its approach.


    Amendments:
    [He] should give Sadaqa [charitable gift] making amends of the wrong done by him. According to Imam Abu Hanifa [a major jurist; see next section], it is imperative to expiate his sin as laid down in the Shariah by feeding ten poor men, or clothing ten deserving persons or observing three fasts. The other jurists are of the view that Sadaqa is enough, no matter what its amount or measure is. (note 2087)
     
  17. Rabs

    Rabs Guru
    Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2008
    Posts:
    1,537
    Referrals:
    1
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?



    Well there you have it.
     
  18. Straggler

    Straggler Guru
    Banned

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2008
    Posts:
    1,538
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Not quite, actually, because certain religions, like Orthodox Judaism, will deny you completely if you do not adhere to every law that they have. This being said, if you, say, eat pork and you are an orthodox Jew, you are not a stunted Orthodox Jew, you are not an Orthodox Jew. Some religions are very adamant about small things and will reject you if you break their complicated rules even a little bit.
     
  19. bloodrico

    bloodrico Apprentice
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2008
    Posts:
    791
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Your still a muslim but a bad one .
     
  20. dam prayer noobs

    dam prayer noobs Guru
    Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2005
    Posts:
    1,789
    Referrals:
    0
    Sythe Gold:
    0
    Are you allowed to be called a muslim if you drink alcohol?

    Why would you want to call yourself a Muslim if you don't agree with it's rules...
     
< Public Option? | Why should I be moral? >


 
 
Adblock breaks this site