Why is RSBot better than SCAR/SRL?

[Runescapian321]

Everyone has been saying that RSBot is better than SCAR/SRL. Can someone enlighten me on how that is?

 

[Blood Bandit]

Scar uses color picking to find it's target, and fails a lot.
RSBot is scripted, which the program actually finds any, for example, Iron Ore rock, right clicks and looks for the Mine option...

Same with banking, it will right click and find the Use Quickly.

This program works very very well, has many anti ban methods, and can solve almost all randoms and even escape from battle very quickly.

Of course, I listed very few details of the program. Download it (virus free!) and test it yourself, I guarantee you'll be satisfied

 

[Runescapian321]

Scar uses color picking to find it's target, and fails a lot.
RSBot is scripted, which the program actually finds any, for example, Iron Ore rock, right clicks and looks for the Mine option...

Same with banking, it will right click and find the Use Quickly.

This program works very very well, has many anti ban methods, and can solve almost all randoms and even escape from battle very quickly.

Of course, I listed very few details of the program. Download it (virus free!) and test it yourself, I guarantee you'll be satisfied

SCAR is no longer just a color bot. Reflection has been recently (well, nearly a month ago, I think) made to work with SMART, SRL's client. SRL's bitmaps and dtms work fairly quickly in finding stuff like the Mine, and banking options (< 1.5 seconds, maybe even < 1 second).

SRL has many anti bans too, can solve all randoms except for 2 (maybe 3) and one (Quizmaster I think), only works sometimes. Running away from battle is pretty good. If scripted to check for that often, as soon as the script notices a drop in HP, it runs, and if scripted to run back, runs back.

I have tried RSBot. It's good, but IMO SCAR/SRL is better. Reflection with a backup of color is better than just reflection.

 

[Mr Pins]

because i got 3 99s with that bot

 

[Runescapian321]

because i got 3 99s with that bot

Don't believe ya Unless it was from like 98-99 lol.

 

[sirjebus]

sweet thing about rs bot is you can have multiple scripts running. for example you could have a FM script, also a anti-ban script that will do human expressions (check stats, move cursor ect), and have a auto-response script that can actually answer peoples question (Whats your FM level? [84] ect. Its awesome.

 

[kr3w sk8r]

I also find RSbot more undectible

 

[Wild`]

- Rsbot is easily downloaded with everything in there
- Simple steps
- Need a script? add it to notepad, compile it
- not complicated
- less detectible
- need an anti-ban to fit your needs? theres a bunch in the forum
- scripts ACTUALLY work unlike scar where 3/4 of them dont

 

[Runescapian321]

sweet thing about rs bot is you can have multiple scripts running. for example you could have a FM script, also a anti-ban script that will do human expressions (check stats, move cursor ect), and have a auto-response script that can actually answer peoples question (Whats your FM level? [84] ect. Its awesome.

SCAR/SRL may not have multiple scripts running, but the scripter can easily add anti-ban by just making a function that includes some of SRL's included functions (confusing, I know, but when you do it, it's simple ). SRL can do all the anti-bans you mentioned.

I also find RSbot more undectible

False. If used the same amount, it depends on the script (if made with human-like motions, human-like tasks, etc). AND SRL/SCAR is less bannable because of multiplayer (where you have a char go on, then that one log off and another log on, etc, like a loop).

- Rsbot is easily downloaded with everything in there
- Simple steps
- Need a script? add it to notepad, compile it
- not complicated
- less detectible
- need an anti-ban to fit your needs? theres a bunch in the forum
- scripts ACTUALLY work unlike scar where 3/4 of them dont

1. SRL is easily downloaded too - same as RSBot, with subversion. (And RSBot is harder, atleast it took me a while, with all the java settings and stuff)
2. Nothing hard about SRL, download the script, fill in the constants, and put in your character's info
3. Need a script? Download, open, fill in const, click play, you're autoing.
4. False, read above.
5. Anti-ban is included in SRL, no need to download anything extra
6. I can find over 40 scripts that work if you want. Atleast 20 that work great and about 5-10 that are as flawless as can be. And reflection hasn't completely set in yet, once more scripts are made with that, double the amount of scripts since now it'll be easy to make them.

Anyone else?

 

[SuF]

RSBot is a BCEL bot. It uses the RS client to its full advantage. It can never miss a click, or not find something unless the script has a coding problem. RSBot is minimizable, and you can run as many bots as you want pretty much.

False. If used the same amount, it depends on the script (if made with human-like motions, human-like tasks, etc). AND SRL/SCAR is less bannable because of multiplayer (where you have a char go on, then that one log off and another log on, etc, like a loop).

False. The methods in each bot play a major part in the decetabilty. Human like movement is mainly the bot its self, bot the scriptor. Also how the person bots plays a part. If they bot the same time everyday its not as noticible. Multiplayer? I could make a script in about 20 minutes, that logs off after a random amount of time, changes worlds, waits a while, logs into the other world then contiunes starts another script.

SCAR/SRL may not have multiple scripts running, but the scripter can easily add anti-ban by just making a function that includes some of SRL's included functions (confusing, I know, but when you do it, it's simple ). SRL can do all the anti-bans you mentioned.

Since Scar has been around so long people have made many addons and such. RSBot as been around a lot less time, and such it has less, but they are more reliable since it uses BCEL, which is almost a 100% chance that the random will be detected, and the bot could log out or solve the random. The addons are much easier to make due to the BCEL. SCAR must use colors and pictures, RSBOT uses a couple of numbers and things to detect things, thus from a scripting standpoint it is easier and better.

1. SRL is easily downloaded too - same as RSBot, with subversion. (And RSBot is harder, atleast it took me a while, with all the java settings and stuff)
2. Nothing hard about SRL, download the script, fill in the constants, and put in your character's info
3. Need a script? Download, open, fill in const, click play, you're autoing.
4. False, read above.
5. Anti-ban is included in SRL, no need to download anything extra
6. I can find over 40 scripts that work if you want. Atleast 20 that work great and about 5-10 that are as flawless as can be. And reflection hasn't completely set in yet, once more scripts are made with that, double the amount of scripts since now it'll be easy to make them.

1. Use google and you can set up java in 10 minutes, if you have some computer experience.
2. Constants? Please elaborate.
3. Thats if you are in the right spot and have your settings right. RSBOT can move you to the right spot, set your settings and do everything like that with a only a couple of extra lines of code. (Well, i don't really code for RSbot, but i am guessing it has methods that do it.. i know it has tiles and i bet it has a web.)
4. Read above what? Setting up java is very easy, and running a script is easy. Nothing complicated about it.
5. Nothing extra to dl for anti-ban in rsbot either... its all in the script... detecabilty can not be aruged since no one has any proof about anything they say about it.
6. I have autoed with SCAR, and i tried like 10 scripts before i found one that worked. I never auoted with RSBOT so i have no idea if they work. This argument is not very important anyways, as this is a fight about the bot, not the scripts.

SCAR is no longer just a color bot. Reflection has been recently (well, nearly a month ago, I think) made to work with SMART, SRL's client. SRL's bitmaps and dtms work fairly quickly in finding stuff like the Mine, and banking options (< 1.5 seconds, maybe even < 1 second).

Reflection? Please define and tell me how it works to help SCAR. Never heard of it before.

SRL has many anti bans too, can solve all randoms except for 2 (maybe 3) and one (Quizmaster I think), only works sometimes. Running away from battle is pretty good. If scripted to check for that often, as soon as the script notices a drop in HP, it runs, and if scripted to run back, runs back.

100% script dependante / addon dependant. I can make a method that checks for randoms constantly. Solve the molly random, the maze? the mime? the one with the rune pillars? the mystory box? Again, we are fighing about scripting more, which is dependant of the scripter not the bot.


Now everything I have said came out of my head, and I do not follow anything about either bot, so I can not say everything I have said is right at all, its just what I have heard and read. :/

 

[Runescapian321]

RSBot is a BCEL bot. It uses the RS client to its full advantage. It can never miss a click, or not find something unless the script has a coding problem. RSBot is minimizable, and you can run as many bots as you want pretty much.

I'm pretty sure what you're saying is BCEL is what I'm saying is Reflection. Recently, SRL has been made to work with reflection (using Item IDs and such). SRL is minimizable. You can run as many SRL clients (AKA SMARTs) as your computer can handle.

False. The methods in each bot play a major part in the decetabilty. Human like movement is mainly the bot its self, bot the scriptor. Also how the person bots plays a part. If they bot the same time everyday its not as noticible. Multiplayer? I could make a script in about 20 minutes, that logs off after a random amount of time, changes worlds, waits a while, logs into the other world then contiunes starts another script.

Mutliplayer as in it switches players during the run of the script. I've used both SCAR and RSBot, and the mouse movements are pretty much the same. I don't quite get what you mean by 'bot the scripter'?

Since Scar has been around so long people have made many addons and such. RSBot as been around a lot less time, and such it has less, but they are more reliable since it uses BCEL, which is almost a 100% chance that the random will be detected, and the bot could log out or solve the random. The addons are much easier to make due to the BCEL. SCAR must use colors and pictures, RSBOT uses a couple of numbers and things to detect things, thus from a scripting standpoint it is easier and better.

SRL = Scar Resource Library - It is the only 'add-on', and SCAR is pretty much useless without it. BCEL must be what I say is reflection, so SRL uses that too, and that means SCAR does NOT rely on colors, and most of the things mentioned above that you said RSBot can do, SRL can do too.

1. Use google and you can set up java in 10 minutes, if you have some computer experience.
2. Constants? Please elaborate.
3. Thats if you are in the right spot and have your settings right. RSBOT can move you to the right spot, set your settings and do everything like that with a only a couple of extra lines of code. (Well, i don't really code for RSbot, but i am guessing it has methods that do it.. i know it has tiles and i bet it has a web.)
4. Read above what? Setting up java is very easy, and running a script is easy. Nothing complicated about it.
5. Nothing extra to dl for anti-ban in rsbot either... its all in the script... detecabilty can not be aruged since no one has any proof about anything they say about it.
6. I have autoed with SCAR, and i tried like 10 scripts before i found one that worked. I never auoted with RSBOT so i have no idea if they work. This argument is not very important anyways, as this is a fight about the bot, not the scripts.

1. But to a computer newbie it's not too simple
2. Like args for RSBot. Stuff like

Loads = 5; //loads you want to do
Ore = 'iron'; //ore you want to do

3. With reflection, all you have to do is home tele and walk to there, quite simple to do in SRL now too.
4. As in read what I said to the last poster about anti-ban
5. The script IS extra, I mean with SRL you don't need to download antiban scripts
6. That's because, as you know, SRL is a somewhat old community, and there's going to be outdated scripts from old SRL versions. And SRL is no longer what it used to be. I haven't even been there a year, and there've been some pretty big changes in that year. You might wanna check it out again

Reflection? Please define and tell me how it works to help SCAR. Never heard of it before.

Reflection = BECL technology or whatever you call the stuff where something uses item IDs and object IDs to do stuff (basically reads the client).

100% script dependante / addon dependant. I can make a method that checks for randoms constantly. Solve the molly random, the maze? the mime? the one with the rune pillars? the mystory box? Again, we are fighing about scripting more, which is dependant of the scripter not the bot.

Yes, but if there's a bot who's devs have not solved the randoms, that means it can't solve randoms unless you're an awesome scripter and can do it yourself.

Finally someone who actually put up some valid points

 

[esteban]

Scar uses color picking to find it's target, and fails a lot.
RSBot is scripted, which the program actually finds any, for example, Iron Ore rock, right clicks and looks for the Mine option...

Same with banking, it will right click and find the Use Quickly.

This program works very very well, has many anti ban methods, and can solve almost all randoms and even escape from battle very quickly.

Of course, I listed very few details of the program. Download it (virus free!) and test it yourself, I guarantee you'll be satisfied

SCAR right clicks for the mine and bank option, too...

SCAR has most antiban routine you could think of.

As for reflection, it's the same thing you say RSBot does with BCEL. Inside of the RuneScape client (the java code), there are viables for everything that in part fo the game. For example, there are variables for your current position, what animation you are preforming, the enviroment around you (objects), and so on. Reflection reads these variables and tells SCAR what they are. Used properly, you can, for example, know if you are at a specific tile on the RuneScape map, cutting down a tree, moving, etc.

 

[SuF]

You cleared up some points, and now I know more about both bots.

I am strongly against people having to change code in scripts. I like using popup boxxes that ask for input. It takes only 2 or 3 lines max to get the input that way, and it makes it easier. I understand that SCAR can do that to, but it seems most people do not bother. (Script dependant, so not very good argument)


Now, SRL is an addon, which is what makes SCAR good. SCAR is shit without it, so if we are fighting over which bot is better its RSBOT for sure.



The argument about RSBOT, SCAR, or any other bot is mostly based on prefrence, not on real facts. What I am seen so far does not have proof for more anti-ban or anything, and there will never be proof.


I don't know what your talking about with anti-ban scripts. All anti-bans should be included within the script that you are downloading, in a addon like SRL, or within RSBOT its self. As a scriptor, I would never make anyone go download anything extra.

Now I am going to move onto the language that SCAR is programmed in. Pascal. I do not know the limits of it or anything, but my guess is that Java is more powerful that Pascal. The language is a very important part, since one might be faster than the other or include more methods that make scripting advanced scripts easier.


Since I know for a fact RSBOT has a higher precent of working scripts that makes it better than Scar. Now Scar might have more scripts that work, but I would bet many of them do the same thing. Another major point is which is easier to script in? This again is based on perferance. I think that scripting for JMacro was super easy, and I made mulitble addons for it since I did not feel like testing scripts.

One this is that SCAR has a large community that is working on SRL, or at least a good amount of members that work on it. RSBOT does not have this, and due to users comments they seem to think RSBOT is less detecatable, which can not be prooven but due to the user comments I will believe this is true. Since I think that, I would have to say RSBOT has a much stronger base than SCAR.

The thing is, SCAR is very old, which contuining to just update it just makes scripts not work. If it was redone using all the existing methods and SRL as a refrence, it would be much better in my opinion.

Make some more arguments, as I am coming to the consluion that it is 100% based on prefrence and not based on facts.

 

[Flameset]

Frankly I tried many times to set up scar and run.
I read just about every guide on srl forums and still didn't work.
Always failed.

I tried RSBot once and it worked pretty good although I had a few problems the first time. The second time it worked almost perfect.

Thats just my experience though.

 

[Runescapian321]

@SuF

With the consts, they'd be at the very top of the script, so it wouldn't matter much.

With anti-ban scripts, from what I've heard, to use anti-ban with RSBot, you have to download Anti-ban scripts and run them simultaneously. With the language, you might be right, with the limits, and I'm pretty sure with Java the scripts are shorter (not by much, but still shorter).

No, there's not that many same scripts, at max two for maybe 3 things (Tut Runner, Ess Miner, and maybe one more I can't think of).

With the detectability, it's the same for both, ultimately depending on the script.

With SCAR being old and outdated scripts giving a bad reputation to SRL, good point. I think I'll throw in a suggestion to make a script archive of outdated scripts, if it hasn't been suggested before.

@Flameset

Then you haven't read my guide

 

[SuF]

I agree with him, when I tried to auto with SCAR it took awhile to get it to work. :/

 

[Runescapian321]

Well... I can say the same for RSBot

 

[Alex k]

RSbot is also a lot less complicated to use than SCAR/SRL. This makes it more popular and available to leechers.

 

[Runescapian321]

IMO SCAR/SRL is less complicated. All you have to do is download a script, fill in your character info and how many loads you want to do, etc (That stuff is clearly labeled). And click play.

From what I saw on RSBot, a lot of people were having trouble copying a script, pasting it into notepad, going to compile it to get the .class file, setting up the args (Not labeled at all -.-, like what to put in them and all, you have to go back to the author's thread to see what to put in), and only then running it.

 

[0017513060]

IMO SCAR/SRL is less complicated. All you have to do is download a script, fill in your character info and how many loads you want to do, etc (That stuff is clearly labeled). And click play.

From what I saw on RSBot, a lot of people were having trouble copying a script, pasting it into notepad, going to compile it to get the .class file, setting up the args (Not labeled at all -.-, like what to put in them and all, you have to go back to the author's thread to see what to put in), and only then running it.

they do not understand that there is a higher chance of getting an old script because scar has been around longer

rs bot is less then a year old so there is alot less chance that the scripts can be outdated