Why do you people sterotype Rap?

I mean come on why you always got to stereotype rap. Yes all that commercial rap is about stupid shit like hoes booty ballin golden-nutsack grillz etc.. But you guys never listen to the real rap. You guy just like to judge on one thing and find what is wrong with it and pick on it. Listen to some Nas Common Tupac etc.. Yea rap not that one sided 2-step Ballin lean back bull shit, those clowns can't rap. Before you judge rap listen to the good stuff first. I can also stereotype rock to being all devil worshiping white people but do i do that? No i don't because that is immoral. Anyways post you opinions.

 

I posted this in some forum an eon ago and lost its location, regardless the sentiments in "Moi literature est parfait" (Hows that for not doing french for 4 years?).

Describing the (disenchanting) chanting of “Rap Music” as singing or as music is indeed (in either case) a capital misnomer. Real Music is the careful arrangement of organized sounds in the form of notes that then result in a smooth blend of rhythm, tone, and pitch that when united, is quite pleasing to the ear. Rap is not music. The unpleasant-sounding horror is chaotic dissonance and certainly not elegant consonance. Rap is veritable noise pollution that is tastelessly amplified from a cumbersome boom box. Generally speaking, unlike black soul music and traditional black rhythm and blues, Rap is both heartless and soulless. Standard love songs show respect and consideration for a member of the opposite gender but most contemporary Rap lyrics promote a hedonistic “me first” ghetto survival theme that is cruelly perpetuated upon its afflicted listening audience.
When Rap songs first appeared I believed that the clamorous nonsense would be another fad phenomenon that would gradually vanish like ‘70s disco music had slowly but surely lost its clout (along with our attendant intrigue and curiosity). But unfortunately the dunce-like Rap lyrics herald the worst elements of society and the brazen inflammatory words glamorize sex, drugs, random and deliberate violence’ and gang intimidation themes that through-and-through reek with sexism, racism and the glorification of the ghetto mentality.
In most Rap song themes the dysfunctional dregs of the inner city are elevated to hero status while the “entertainers” sound like disgruntled grunting angry contemporary cavemen’ who are advocating the downfall of “white America” with vitriolic words expressing rage, rebellion and social revolution. This expansion of the “easy-money anti-establishment ghetto mentality” is fueling resentment and hostility among “disenfranchised” inner city youth as well as contaminating the gullible and vulnerable minds of suburban teens. But the entire reprehensible in-progress-brainwashing technique that “Rap Music” demonstrably utilizes is both a sham and a canard that is trafficking affected teens down a treacherous One-Way-Street that leads only to a permanent lackluster socio-economic cul-de-sac. What a pathetic and ignoble social disaster!
In the ‘50s and early ‘60s black rhythm and blues imaginatively captured the hopes, the dreams, the ideals and the aspirations of both white and black teens as portrayed in the quality music of Chuck Berry and Fats Domino. Early black music was a unifying force in America. True, Little Richard’s music was a tad rebellious but it was not downright dirty, immoral or degrading like modern rap is. The early ‘50s black artists’ songs paralleled the dreams of both white and black America and the entire country was basically on the same musical wavelength.
And then this constructive and positive racial parallelism continued into the early ‘60s with the establishment of Detroit’s Motown where both black and white society shared a common interest in radio renditions of the ideal boyfriend, the ideal girlfriend, the ideal teen relationship and the music beneficially emphasized the stability that typical teenage romance provided. The Temptations, the Supremes, the Shirelles, the Marvelettes, Stevie Wonder, Lionel Richie, Mary Wells, Smokey Robinson, The Four Tops and Martha and the Vandellas all espoused “civilized relationships” between males and females and their songs genuinely advanced the perpetuation of commonalities in our great American culture.
Ironically white performers were very instrumental in contributing to the origins of “Rap Music.” Certainly Blondie’s Debbie Harry’s classic rendition of “Rapture” and the Beastie Boys’ amusing “Fight For the Right To Party” preceded the appearance of more radical rappers like Vanilla Ice and Eminem. And M.C. Hammer’s unique song “Can’t Touch This!” gave Rap a happy monicker and the lively tune showed both versatility and great potential for the development of new sounds in the recording industry. But then Run DMC, Public Enemy, Ludacris (Whatever happened to standard spelling?), 50 Cent (Whatever happened to the idea of plural usage in English grammar? I mean, I’ve heard of one cent!) and oh yes, Eminem and other rappers gradually emerged and began shouting and ranting words that featured intimidation, class conflict, hatred of authority (including police, parents and teachers), defiance, insolence, animosity, conflict and racial divisiveness.
“Rap Music” is both uninspiring and generally counterproductive to the “good of the order.” The scurrilous pox lionizes a mediocre ghetto existence as the epitome of human pursuit. “Rap Music” is essentially non-creative no matter how creative its performers think they are in writing it or in presenting it. And the rappers have the unmitigated audacity to describe themselves as “artists.” Well, Michelangelos, Leonardo Da Vincis, Picassos and Rembrandts most of those arrogant buffoons are not. And few rappers can actually sing a strong note like Elvis Presley, Johnny Mathis, Jay Black and Ray Charles could! Most rappers can just robotically shout, yell, holler, drivel, rant, slobber, prattle and babble in rubbish junkish mechanical non-poetic lyrics that lack imagination, inspiration and rhetorical quality. And the egocentric rappers’ amoral anthems are designed to corrupt American society and tear it down to the dangerous and literal “dog-eat-dog” human condition that realistically exists and flourishes in American slums.
Why isn’t “Rap Music” genuine music? Because Real Music possesses two authentic characteristics: it has grace and beauty, two marvelous components that “Rap” sadly lacks. Rap tunes usually are nothing more than one monotonous beat accompanied by certain anti-social mantras repeated over and over again. Real Music usually has singing associated with it but Rap only pretends to be music with relentless “in your face” threatening lyrics and assorted menacing hand and face gestures. Real Music has a variety of instruments while Rap is ordinarily arranged with only a hypnotic drumbeat and perhaps a guitar accompanied by some hyperactive dolt wildly scratching a record surface. Standard songs are generally arranged in a clever A-B-A verse pattern or rhythm format and most “Rap Music” just sounds like a flat tire riding and rumbling over a series of bumpy dirt roads. There are few chords (piano, guitar or otherwise) exhibited in “Rap Music” and the dictatorial didactical tone of voice that is exhibited (a substitute for real singing) is quite deficient in acceptable harmony and melody. In short, “Rap Music” is a one-dimensional medium and is devoid of both width and breadth. It is shallow and hollow linguistic jargonized anger-oriented ghetto garbage. “Rap Music” is analogous to looking at a rainbow having only one dull color.
High-profile black leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton should demonstrate the courage to condemn and denounce “Rap Music” that ostentatiously promotes negative and pessimistic views of American culture along with perpetuating anti-social attitudes. For the most part (with few exceptions) Rap is quite detrimental and deleterious, and the repugnant curse is the antithesis of all that is good for the betterment of America. “Rap Music” extols a subversive counter-culture that undermines all that is advantageous about the USA. It is an adverse divisive force that pits parents against their children, rich against poor and teens against authority. Certainly it doesn’t take much of a genius to concoct lyrics that come up with diabolical rhyming words for “ditch and witch” and for “duck and luck!”
Of course the self-indulgent rappers insist that they are fine examples teaching inner city kids the value of free enterprise and becoming successful junior entrepreneurs in a capitalistic economy by having the impressionable juveniles tailor their activities after their role-model mentors’. But the stark truth is that less than one percent of prospective rappers ever hit the jackpot with the remainder of aspirants finding a dismal crock of fools’ gold at the end of their rainbows. Like everything else from publishing to professional sports and from Wall Street to Main Street, only the top three percent of the participants wind-up making the big bucks while the remainder of the wannabes’ in any given profession founder and flounder in defeat and mediocrity.
The “Rap Music Industry” is no different than the rest of capitalistic America is in terms of its low percentage of success stories. Most of Rap’s juvenile adherents are doomed to mediocre futures with dead-end minimum wage jobs at best (if they don’t become criminals in the meantime) and if the kids actively espouse the ghetto lifestyle as indicated in rap song lyrics, then those youngsters are truly heading in the wrong direction that will guarantee them lives fraught with conflict with society, with adult authority and the with the law. There is no doubt in my mind that the Rap Record Industry exploits and corrupts both the consciences and the hearts of inner city and suburban kids that gravitate to “the sound” and addictively like listening to it.
“Rap Music” is both a divisive force and a toxic influence in American society. The pestilence praises the “ghetto mentality model” as a model worthy of imitation and the cultural epidemic (that the rampant social cancer is) has up-to-now generated little redeeming value. “Rap Music” mercilessly reduces mankind to a base biological existence and it insidiously subverts the spiritual and the intellectual aspects of human beings’ mental and emotional composition. If human life could be expressed as a mathematical division problem, then according to the rappers’ persistent messages, the lowest common denominators of all human relationships are sex, drugs, anger, contempt and rebellion. “Rap Music” connotes a disdain for self-sacrifice for others, it suggests (by omission) an aversion for social commitment and for community service, and it advances (by omission) a despising of individual responsibility and an apparent antipathy for standard accepted interpersonal morality and ethics.
In the final analysis “Rap Music” undermines basic human charity, human decency and human consideration for the rights and properties of others. In the overall “Rap Music” scenario, hate has replaced tolerance, self-gratification has replaced prudence, arrogance has replaced humility and hostility has replaced compassion. To add to the ongoing dilemma other benign abstractions also have been viciously assaulted. In the “Rap Music World” defiance has replaced respect, sex has replaced courtship, using others for personal gain has replaced basic courtesy and wanton rape has replaced teen romance.
“Rap Music” (in general) is definitely a harmful and dangerous factor to American civilization because the colossal scourge equates (in innocent adolescent minds) pervasive corruptive moral fallacies purporting that: adventure tragically equals thugs and drugs, that freedom is social anarchy, that love is the same thing as sex, that justice is a vigilante-oriented lifestyle, that truth can only be represented as deplorable ghetto misery, that honor is nothing more than revenge and last but not least, that Thomas Jefferson’s “Pursuit of happiness” is really only the pursuit of selfish pleasure. In conclusion, the flimflam known as “Rap Music” is not bona fide music because the blight is without grace, without beauty and without love, the fundamental truly joyous qualities that are vitally necessary in order to make life both satisfying and worthwhile in any given civilization.

EDIT: I expect you to NOT read this because it totally disproves your shit genre

 

Well, most rap songs copy the chorus of other songs. If you like rap because of the chorus instead of the verse then you really don't like rap and you like rock. Because rock is based alot on the chorus instead of the verse, while rap and hip hop mainly focuses into the verses and even givs us message in there songs.

P.S. If you don't like "sterotype rap" then listen to underground rap. Most of them don't use catch phrases as a chorus or gay shit.

 

I dont like rock, i dont like rap... however i do like mcing which is more of a freestyle sort of rap and so demands more talent. i mean anyone can write a few ryming words and sing* them...

*if you can call it that

im more into speed garage and 4x4... weird i know but there you go

 

If you ask me rock fans are just dissapointed by the fact that rock isnt the most popular music anymore.. im english so i dont know much about american music, but dance music is king at the moment in england, and out of dance music has come garage, grime, 4x4, which is taking over the clubs, just be open to change. i like bits of all music. live and let live

 

Nas and Tupac are commercial rap. Though some of their rap has substance they can't back it up with how they live their lives.

 

Nas earlier shit wasn't commercial Tupac talks the truth while making money Common is good dl some of his songs.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QwkDRewPqtk
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XBa55sDTIiA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MvTAt20eedU
Nice ass songs.

 

I listened to rap for a few years, but now I switched to rock because the songs were getting boring. Back then, I listened to ludacris, 3-6 mafia, that fast rapper that was thought to be the fastest rapper(forgot name), and some other artist.

I think people judge rap and hip-hop mostly because of the baggy clothes, gold grillz, trying to act cool; that sort of stuff. Wearing baggy clothes, grillz, trying to act pimp-like(Not that other definiton of pimps, you know what I mean), is not being yourself, and thats what people don't like. Everyone just needs to be themselves.

 

I expect you to NOT read my essay at the top because it totally disproves your shit genre!
Thanks for not responding to me or my post Jama, even when you wanted your answer: You have it!
I expect you to NOT read my essay at the top because it totally disproves your shit genre!
Thanks for not responding to me or my post Jama, even when you wanted your answer: You have it!

 

It's just not interesting to listen to. Lyrics are definitley important, I'm not denying that. It's just that most of these rappers only bring listeners information about The Hood, Violence and Riches using rhymes with no instrumental talent. Then there comes the "political" and "knowledgable" rappers who ultimatley have no idea what they're talking about.

I'm just not a fan of the whole genre because it doesn't give me anything. Riffs and cheap computer affects to make the beat and rhythm with grouped together rhyming words with a few simple metaphores and similie's doesn't take as much work as what rock has to offer.

 

Hey what race are you?

 

I just don't like any rap and thats that kthx.

 

What is your definition of 'Real rap'

 

Why the fuck do you people have a cry when someone say's they don't like the music you listen to? It happen's in every thread. The rocker's say rap is shit the rapper's say rock is shit day in day out get the fuck over it, if you don't like rock don't post in topic's about it. If you don't like rap don't post in topic's about that either.

 

Umm... Rock is still the most popular music, by a longshot...

 

YOU, my friend, Need to calm down. This doesn't happen in every thread, or atleast, not my posts. There are people who like both- But i dont like this new 'rap', because it isn't rap. Give me some old school rap and i can enjoy it, but I am a rocker as well. Think about that.

 

Indeed it is

 

All rap is good stuff =D

 

Exactly Kill or Die. It's good stuff, not music.

 

I will give you one big reason out of thousands why everyone hates it. It's because the beats take absolutely no talent, except for turntables. Besides turntables, all the other beats are computer beats. Rap actually shouldn't be considered music due to the major amount of low talent it takes. Rock takes talent and that's because when you're performing you have to memorize what you play at certain times on your guitar and the vocals has to memorize the whole song too.

Rock is actually the most popular music, even to children and teens, not only adults. If you check Myspace music, Rock number 1ranking.