What is racism these days?

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What is racism these days?
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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    What is racism these days?

    Time and time again, I find myself coming back to this discussion with other people. Personally I don't think racism exists anymore, others seem to disagree.

    I'll use the following as an example. I saw a reddit comment by some kid being mad that a waitress was referring to him as Jackie Chan behind his back. He got all upset whining about her being racist.

    Now, does calling him Jackie Chan, have anything to do with a hate of the kid's race? He looked like Jackie Chan, so she called him that as a joke. She treated him like she would have anyone else.

    I don't think anyone these days, insulting another race has anything to do with hatred of that race. If it comes to insults, it's merely just insults because of the situation, no related to a hate of their race.



    I'm not a writer, this is probably laid out terribly. What's everyone's thoughts on racism.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 20, 2013 at 3:06 PM
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    What is racism these days?

    Racism still exists in plenty areas of the world, such as Italy.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Whaa? Dude, if you go into a group of black people, they're going to more than likely call you a cracker. On the contrary, I know lots of white people that generalize blacks because a high volume of young black males are usually thugish, rude, antagonizing, looking for trouble, etc. It may be wrong to generalize, because personally I know a lot of cool black people, but I mean that is a matter of a fact. If you're walking down a street, alone, and you pass by a group of 5 black people; chances are they're going to say something to you. The fuel for racism will always be here, it's an endless cycle.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    The fact that you and the waitress thinks he looks like Jackie Chan because he's Chinese can be considered racism. The implicit insult is that Asians all look the same, who's to say the kid was even Chinese? Maybe he was actually Korean or Mongolian or Taiwanese.

    I think, barring this incident, there is DEFINITELY still racism out there with more explicit demonstrations. I know older men who still dislike black people as a result of their fathers' engrained hate for blacks, who were still alive during the slavery period of the USA. (I know there are more places in the world than the USA, but I'm speaking from experience, and I'm American, so deal with it!)

    Secondly, in ROTC, we have to be briefed on racism and favoritism in regards to race, gender, and religion every time there's a related crisis in the Air Force ranks. We've been re-briefed three times since I started at the beginning of this school year, the first was mandatory for the new year, but the other two were ordered to be given by HOLMES Center (Our commander's boss' organization).

    Lastly, religion often ties in tightly with race. E.G. Muslims and Middle Easterners; Buddhists and Asians; Catholics and Hispanics and white people similarly. The most basic form of racism you can witness from this fact is the mistrust felt by people with extremist views about Muslim terrorists. The view would be ">1% of muslims are terrorists, therefore all muslims could be terrorists". I've heard many outspoken comments by people, which all resemble "Just kill all the towelheads". This is obviously not so much a slander against Muslims, but Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis etc.

    And then there's people who just hate one another. Shiites and Sunnis, Palestinians and Israelis, Chinese and Taiwanese, Chinese and Mongolians, Chinese and Japanese (there's a lot of hate concerning Chinese lawl), North and South Koreans (even though they're technically the same race...), Russians and Germans (althought, that's probably not as bad today as it was right after WWII), Americans and Mexicans, French and Americans (actually, a lot of Europeans hate Americans), Kosovans and Serbians, Canadians and French Canadians, Cubans and the entire world, the list goes on and on.

    There is definitely still racism.



    EDIT: Although..... looking at all of the examples I've given, I think there's MUCH LESS racism based on the belief that one race is inferior or less human than another race. I think it's more of a political and militant hate now. The Terrorists who attack America hates us not because we're inferior, but because we're infidels in their eyes, our government and way of life conflicts with their belief. Americans hate Mexicans because they will work for very cheap wages. Europeans hate Americans because they think we're all fat and lazy and we consume too much of everything. Palestinians hate Israelis for taking their believed homeland.

    It's another way to look at racism, but it's definitely still racism
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jan 23, 2013 at 3:19 PM
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    What is racism these days?

    Racism has been perverted by radical egalitarianism. The truth is, race exists, humans are only about 98.2-98.9% genetically similar according to recent genome projects, while we're 93.8-95.2% similar to chimpanzees (there are discrepancies among the scientific community due to the hostility of the situation) and the development of political correctness has perverted soft sciences and to a degree hard science. Medicine is evolving to the point that we will have individualized medicine, while we actually have racially individualized medicine at this point already; ignoring the further advancements in genetics, robotics, molecular nanotech, the list goes on, we're employing eugenics through scientific advancement. We previously had to dismantle all of our eugenic programs due to Nazi Germany adopting the concepts in an extremist view.

    Favoritism only comes into play when generalizing certain races, there are clear differences on the structure of the brain, relative gray matter, glial cells, genetic disposition, intelligence, strength, body frame, etc; the thing is there are exceptions within every group and every person is different, that's where a meritocracy comes into play. We all have our evolutionary traits which excelled within the environment the races were located, and our ancestry which has an even further differential impact on the genome, and that culture is but a collective disposition asserted by the race and people who created it for themselves, that being said, multiculturalism simply doesn't work. On another note, radical egalitarianism and radical individualism has corrupted us more than it has helped, we need to accept the differences and work together on them, rather than ignore them and pretend it doesn't exist, which is what you see going on today in the world. This has also moved us away from a meritocracy and a 'liberal republic' that of which America was founded as. Leftist Democrats are simply communists in disguise.

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    What is racism these days?

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    What is racism these days?

    Racism isnt as big as before but it still exist in different countrys , people joke but some take it serious
     
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    What is racism these days?

    I think that racism still exists, when I was dating a black girl I had alot of people think it was weird.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Racism still exists almost everywhere, however many people in today's society are a lot quieter with it as its frowned upon a lot more. Racism in school isn't very bad anymore due to the fact you can get into a lot of trouble for it.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    I agree, I never thought about it but it is kinda hush hush. I mean I know some people that'll be like "fuck them niggers" but I'm like hmmmmmm. But yea you would get your ass kicked saying that in public.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Lol. I gotta say I consider myself to be somewhat of a racist guy. I mean I'm born and raised in Oklahoma. My grandparents hate mexicans to the point of everytime they see one my grandpa has to say something about him. My points and views all come from the people that I was raised by and the people that I hang around.


    My point being if I see a black guy walking around with his pants down to his knees saying nigga this and nigga that I'm gonna see him as a nigger but if I see a black guy thats actually dressed decent and doesn't do all that bullshit I'm gonna see him as another individual of this society. same for white trash and beaners.. Now take into account I have a 2 year old daughter thats a quarter black. I have no problems with dating a black girl or any other race. Just don't act like a damn dumbass around me and were fine.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Pretty much this, it's allow respect.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Jan 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM
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    What is racism these days?

    That's the annoying thing about it. If you grow up around a bunch of people of a certain race who act all crazy and are always causing trouble, etc. you tend to think most, if not all of them, are that way. It's sad that it happens but it's true, although after a while a good person of that same race can change their minds. The real racists don't give a crap and all they want to do is belittle other racists and tend to be unreasonable.

    A perfect example of this is my uncle. He grew up around an area where white people mostly just gave African Americans a weird stare 24/7. In stores they would watch him closely as if he were planning on stealing anything, yet had no problem with whites walking around unsupervised. As a result of that, he thinks of white people in general as stuck up bitches/bastards. Even though he has since come across some nice ones, he thinks they're just scared he'd do something to them.

    In that sense, I see him as a definite racist because he just won't give any white person a chance, even the ones who've proven to be genuinely nice people. That's how I personally separate it. It's like the rednecks that lived around where I used to. No matter how good a person you were, even going to the lengths of trying to help them at times, if you weren't white all they saw you as was a beaner, or a nigger, or this and that. They didn't want anything to do with you and spent the most of their time making racist comments behind your backs or, if you were alone, in your presence. No thought at all about the possibility of you becoming friends or being a good neighbor or anything; Unreasonable.





    I can't count how many times I have seen people stare at a couple of different races as if that was the most disturbing and sinful thing possible.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jan 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM
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    What is racism these days?

    Racism no longer exists? Have you never heard of the Aryan brotherhood? The American Nazi Party? The KKK? These are all white racist groups here in America. Theres also alot of racist mexican gangs, I believe including MS13, which is currently "purging" the prisons of blacks as many mexican gang members are murdering blacks no matter their gang affiliate in prisons. The only racist black group I know of is the black panthers. Alot of people say the black panthers arent racist, but black panther members have a huge rate of black on white hate crimes.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Jan 27, 2013 at 2:28 AM
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    What is racism these days?

    Of course there's racism in america. So long as everyone judges by apperances, there will be racism everywhere.
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Everyone takes racism in their own way and different people take the situation from a joke to a real insult
     
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    What is racism these days?

    Lots of people take being offended as the other person being racist if the person being offended is a minority. It's bullshit really. If I call a nigger a nigger it doesn't mean I'm being racist. If the nigger wants to assume that I am using the word nigger in an offensive manner, then they can be annoyed. In reality I'm using the word nigger the same way that black people use the word nigger. I mean no harm by the word and am trying to reduce racism by not allowing it to dictate our language. If we all start using the word nigger to refer to people with black skin again it will lose all of its negative meaning and we will be one step closer to removing racism.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Jan 30, 2013 at 10:06 AM
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    What is racism these days?

    Racism does exist; I can assure you about that. In my home, Hungary, nearly 10% of the populity (1million people) are romas. They are seggregated, they aren't given equal chances.

    In many workplaces, you start with a HUGE disadvantage, if you are a gipsy, and you will most likely not be employed either. This leads to a vicious circle, because these, unemployed, poor minorities respond by:
    - Having around 9-10 children / family, for the social aid, and such
    - These children will most likely drop out of school (the drop rate is over 2x of non-minority Hungarians!!); Since they will drop out of schol, and are already in a disadvantage when it comes to looking for employment, what will they do? Commit crimes, and such. This in turn, leads to us, Hungarians hating them, for what they do; They hate us, because they are being seggregated strongly, and hate crimes are an every day issue in this country. On new years eve for instance, 6 gipsies stabbed 3 hungarians, one of them died. This caused a huge outrage in the Hungarian community, and some roma's were beaten up in turn.

    As the Roma population is ever increasing, more and more of these incidents happen, and the never ending circle continues, and the tension between the natives and the minority, is ever increasing.



    And to answer your point:
    Solely by assuming that a person is like Jackie Chan, purely based on his race, is racism; Because at the end of the day, you are generalising each and every Chinese person as Jackie Chan.

    Even though he was called Jackie Chan, I could just say, you are fat and dumb, because you are American; How would you feel? Regardless of who Jackie Chan is, whatsoever, that comment is racist.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jan 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM
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    What is racism these days?

    kfjjdst, that's simply throwing the term racism around.. Calling all Americans fat and dumb isn't racist, it's simply a generalized and misinformed assumption; while calling someone jackie chan mite simply be saying they look like jackie chan, or it could be racism, however you're also demonizing 'racism', since racism is a true aspect of life, rather than the negative connotations associated with it such as hatred of another race, there is a difference..
     
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