Why are people against marijuana still, in 2014?

You may be right but alcohol is not worse... maybe for people who cannot control themselves, but its essentially the same thing. Granted you can still drive when you're high. Thats about it...

 

You have no idea what you're talking about. Compare how many people get arrested for disorderly conduct for people who are only drunk to people that are only high. They're not the same thing at all. You can drink till you pass out but you're only going to get so high smoking.

 

Alcohol is worse, weather you never have more than 3 drinks in a day or not, it is poison and is the same as using regular pills such as Tylenol on a regular basis. It will Fuck Up your liver, heart, Immune System, cause cancer, and other shit in the long run. Don't come back at me with when used in moderation shit because those are the long term effects of alcohol, without even getting into the Overdose possibilities of alcohol poisoning from one night of drinking.

On the other hand you can not overdose on cannabis, no one has so in that instance it is safer. I can only go off of the research that I have gone over for the past 3 years and my own person experiences with both alcohol and weed in that same amount of time because like most people I like to know what is going into my body so I researched it heavily and found out as much as I could.

"Weed" effects the brain similarly to alcohol but also differently in a lot of ways. Both will reduce the ability to react to certain instances compared to if you were sober. Both fuck with your balance but I would defiantly say alcohol is much worse at this, such as the room spinning you stumbling into shit holding yourself up with the wall stuff like that. I could go on all day but I think I proved my point at least as well as I feel I need to. If you have any other questions please pm me, skype me, or google anything that I just said.

"Weed" should be legalized because it would take a majority of power that comes from the income it generates away from drug lords that smuggle cannabis and/or spike it with other dangerous substances (contaminating it) and give those profits to the states they are sold in. How fucked up is it that all of the guys that have an illegal cannabis operation pray to god it doesn't go legal? When a drug kingpin is for the prohibition of cannabis that's when you know you need to make a change.

So the states need to regulate it, make sure it is safe to consume without any extra bullshit infused into it to get that extra weight or a different high from other drugs and then tax it for the income.

The U.S. Government made cannabis illegal for their own private interests such as the pharmaceutical companies that help fund them wanted it that way. and gave it that not so flattering name marijuana and weed to make it sound dirty. Thank god Colorado got their head out their ass and god this wheel rolling.

The part of the cannabis plant that we smoke it for is the THC chemical inside of it that gives you that "high" also the CBD that gives the more relaxed feeling and is used for medicinal purposes to stop strokes, relieve pain, and what have you. So it doesn't have to be smoked those compounds can be extracted into oils, foods, and just about anything else with a fat agent to bond with.

I'm not trying to convince the world to smoke "weed", just trying to lift the vail that has been placed over the eyes of most people as was over mine for a majority of my life being forcibly raised as a little christian do gooder that hates anything that might possibly be different or "evil". Not dissing anyone that is a christian just my experience from the people I have come into contact with in the churches and religious meetings that I have been to, and my own upbringing.

I have friends that grew up around weed and others that have never seen a pipe and refuse to smoke it and I admire that but they still understand its benefits and effects without a blind judgement that has been pre-programmed into most of society today.

If anything I said is wrong or you believe it is call me out on it and we can look and see what is right. and I'm not talking about my run on sentences or misspelled words so fuck off grammer nazis.

Sorry for the long post but it seems that every time I login I see a new post about this or something extremely similar and I say nearly the same thing but add more and more as I gain more knowledge along the way.

 

I've seen this answer before however I will be redundant to get this across..

Marijuana is a gateway drug. I can say that because if people like the feeling of being high, they are more likely to pick up a harder drug like pills, or crack and heroin. I feel like alcohol is also a gateway drug but most people do not see it as a drug. I hate to see some nice kid toss his life away due to smoking weed and because he smoked that weed, he is shooting heroin and taking pills.. Next thing you know, he over doses and dies. Drugs are very dangerous.. Even weed. If I am under the influence of marijuana, I am more likely to do something that I usually wouldn't.. Including doing pull ups on a street lamp.. Who knows.. people do crazy shit but that is why I feel people hate Mary Jane

 

Do you have a source or personal experience on that? Or is it just something your parents told you in high school.

 

I'm for the legalization and a full supporter, but I will say marijuana is a gateway drug. I just know better than to get into harder drugs. It's not hard to just stick with only smoking bud.

 

The only realize I'll say that marijuana is a gateway drug is because it may have been and probably was for me.

I know tons of strictly-sticky stoners.

The criminalization* of marijuana started in political campaign efforts; Harry J. Anslinger campaigned that African Americans were using marijuana to sedate and seduce Caucasian American women who otherwise 'wouldn't think twice', in order to start a nation-wide issue, painting himself as the lead opposition to a 'heinous operation' thereby propelling himself into the position of Commissioner of Narcotics in the Bureau of Narcotics.

It's only becoming legal now because the dickheads up in Washington decided to off the idea of mind control (as "white America" was swallowed up by an ever increasing cultural variety and open-mindedness within America) and get with the $$ that came along with taxing the plant; that is, after billions were made in court/prison cost, arresting people (not going to cite a specific majority race) and meeting prison quotas to propel privatized jail stock.

 

I have my medical marijuana card and it has improved my quality of life greatly and I see no problem with pot being available to responsible adults over the age of 21.

However, the last thing we need is a hyper-glorified recreational drug. I agree it shouldn't be illegal in the first place, but it is and will likely stay that way.

I mean just look at all the crazy conspiracy theories in this thread alone. These are the majority of people who want marijuana legalized lol.

If you need marijuana for its medical benefits you'll have to move where it's available. Boohoo, life isn't fair.

 

I think alcohol is worse than weed but not expecting this to happen, (I'm quite a heavy drinker and my mates as well and I have seen quite a lot bad things that alchohol can do) apparently its easier for the government (atleast for my country) to sell alcohol rather than weed and that's why it won't be legalized. Alcohol sales give major tax revenues but also increase costs for healthcare, same might happen with weed and government might think it will lower the alchohol sales making it only have a little effect on economy. I think its pretty much only about money why it won't be legalized, it wouldn't be profitable enough and would be a lot of hassle. Also many people think weed is much worse than it actually is and legalizing it would make such people go hard against legalizing and politicians who decide about legalizing might find themselves in a bad situtation.

 

because its bad for you duh

 

Anything is a gateway into anything else. The shitty job you have now may get you a better one in the future, the jalapeno you ate when you were 10 may lead you to try the habanero or ghost pepper, and even smoking a cigarette giving you the experience of blowing smoke that lead you to want to try cannabis. I know that is kind of off topic using some of those as examples but its all based on your personality, who you surround yourself with, and the amount of self control you have (being the limits you place upon yourself). The fact that everyone blames it on the drug itself causing them, people they know, or reciting what mom and dad told them in junior high shows how easily we can take the blame off of us and throw it at someone or something else (I consider this basic human instinct because who wants to take the blame? but it pisses me off).

I know my limits and I smoke weed regularly, I drink alcohol on occasion usually while smoking weed to get "faded" but would rather smoke weed alone because I'd rather wake up refreshed like any other day than with a hangover or explosive shits. But on the limits thing I would still like to try mushrooms and if I get the chance I will, but that is me and my choice sticking with what is naturally grown not man made synthesized made in a lab put it in the needle then into my arm crap. Not that I think anyone that does that is a terrible person, they could be the nicest people in the world but judgmental bastards would like to tell you otherwise, just not my personal choice.

Another reason "weed" is gateway drug, that I don't see a lot of people thinking about, is because you don't meet a ton of strictly only weed drug dealers. They cover all aspects of the drug community especially if that is their full time job. So for example if I try to buy an eighth of some cannabis and the guy I buy it from says, "by the way I have crystal meth, cocaine, molly, ecstasy, acid, any prescription pills you can imagine, and bath salts that I can cut you deal on." that presents an opportunity that I probably would never have encountered before especially if cannabis was legalized and I had bought it from a dispensary.

In conclusion, I would say everyone's personal limits are based on their own experiences (traumatic, emotional, and otherwise) and the opportunity that is presented to them from the example above being the drug dealer willing to sell them whatever is a huge point to why cannabis should be legalized and regulated to ensure quality and keep people away from being introduced to the options that are out there specifically to people with a weaker will or haven't yet set limits on themselves. This isn't kindergarten anymore, If I kill someone tonight am I going to blame the knife? If I buy drugs is it my moneys fault? No stop being a dumb ass.

 

Simply because it's a "drug"

 

Caffeine is a drug. Remember that. Most people would agree caffeine is a good thing and keeps people awake and alert when they need a boost of energy. The only negatives are reliance on it often (slight addiction), and crashing after consuming a large amount or continually ingesting it. But both of these are avoidable by planning the use of it correctly (mornings only or only on your busiest days)

Self-regulation is key to any legal drug/substance.

 

You are saying every "drug" shouldn't be legalized? Clean out your medicine cabinet and never go to the doctor again because there would be no point, they cant prescribe anything to you now. What kind of a world is that? Would you base healing on Faith?

Legalization of cannabis would allow doctors to prescribe it just like any other "drug" you would get from the doctor, then fill the prescription at the pharmacy/dispensary. But just like Tylenol also being a "drug" but not needing a prescription since it is an on the shelf not over the counter "drug" that would be the recreational users buying it without that prescription for self diagnosis and their own person consumption just like caffeine or alcohol.

 

By that logic, people that drink alcohol are more likely to try harder drugs. Maybe it's even true, but considering the vast majority of people drink alcohol with little consequence I think it's fairly safe to say it's mostly the fact that a drug is illegal which exposes people to the harder drugs.

In order to procure marijuana, you have to be involved in the lower side of society which exposes people to more dangerous substances and freer mentality regarding them. Legalising it would cut out the middle man and whatever bad influence associated with him.

 

Agreed. Most people I know who do coke on occasion got free samples from their dealers.

 

& even more-so, the shitty job you have may lead you to try different drugs, etc etc. Any stimulus could lead someone to indulge in stimulant enhancers, whether it's drugs or any other thing. There is a blaming complex attached to drug culture that I think really holds us as a people back.

Definitely not off topic; I think your post very effectively explains a large portion of the 'gateway drug' fiasco.

 

Because old 'Murica said no and no one has enough balls to change what old 'murica said.

 

Some people do have the balls, and are making the change. Which is why nearly half of the U.S. is now legalized for medical use. But it seems just as many people have something to loose from some political backing, or some blind hatred driving them to try and stop this so the process is slow going. I remember about 4 years ago there were only like 13-14 states that were legal and today there are like 23 or 24. Crazy shit, just need the last states to pick up the pace. Especially since the feds will no longer bust legal operations unless they are convinced something else is going on on the side.

 

I've tried to see why my mum is so against it, but for some reason it's a super sensitive topic for her to discuss. The few times I've managed to have half of a discussion with her about it, it was regarding the long-term effects of prolonged/daily use. It does turn people into losers. I'm a proponent of legalization or at least decriminalization, yet I've never met anyone who has smoked week everyday for at least the last year and was a productive, intelligent member of society.

You can always argue the same shit for alcohol however.

Realistically I think it's just a right-wing conservative circle jerk that stemmed from propaganda in the 1900s. We all know that's the time period all conservative right-wings get their ideas anyway.